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Political Spergatory or How I Learned To Love /pol
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We ignore it. Apart from the fact that it might give the site a bad name among some if his stuff goes unchallenged, there really is little downside to just leaving it and waiting for it to go away. It lives on attracting new people responding and then doing its thing. May as well not waste your limited time on earth.
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Brony exists because people need to exist inside some kind of faction and religion no longer fills that niche.
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Sad but true, sir.
Bronies exist because we lost WWII and couldn't continue Aktion T4.
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The Germans exist to wipe everyone's ass because they can't stand eating substandard turds.
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I wasn't going to keep this going out of thinking it would just be annoying, but where I'm new I feel I need to explain myself (and I'm kinda having fun too in a nervous way). I'll keep this as short and easy to respond to as possible.
We already have the largest military budget by far and it keeps increasing. R&D + hardware acquisition is really damn high and I'm pretty sure we still have the most advanced military on the planet. Is it actually possible to afford any more?
Updating military doctrine could refer to a lot of things.
Our entire gov either ignores, or can't respond to world happenings both Dem and Repub. Look at China's Belt & Road. That thing is looking to be insanely successful compared to ANY military investments so far.
Much of the world is becoming to sophisticated for this old way of engagement. Time for a paradigm shift away from classic military/etc overall.
I don't really know what to say. We could have done better? Everything can be done better in hindsight. We still kicked the fuck out of the Axis powers and simultaneously ushered in the nuclear age.
FDR was not nearly as neutral/hands off as you claim. Especially in regards to Britain and our econ war we had started with Japan before entering(claimed by some to be the cause of Pearl Harbor). Maybe it wasn't enough in hindsight?
And just as a finisher, we FUCKING NUKED a country TWICE. 'merica!
That's a weak lefty for ya. Too black and white, too reductive.
Rating: Jackie Chan What(9)/10
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I feel I need to clarify my position on immigration from earlier.
Immigration is complicated. There can be negative effects on the poorest Americans in the immediate vicinity of this cheap labor, but most of it is work no one wanted anyways, even if unemployed (like produce picking). For every one immigrant "driving wages down" in the trades there's 10 illiterate old hillbillies that are trying to get the same job and having the same effects. I know from having carpenters in the Fam and also having to weed these dangerously incompetent fuckers out when looking for a deal on repairs. Besides, repubs love immigrant labor. Just ask Reagan and Donald. Like Hilary said, there's a "private and public position".
I can't blame people who come here looking for a better life either for themselves, or their fam instead of picking themselves up by their bootstraps in a favela. It's sure as hell what I'd do.
Besides, "Emigrate or degenerate! The choice is yours!". I don't feel any ties to this country, or any other. I can't wait until I have enough money to barely be able to afford living in Melbourne!
And here I am wishing we were more left wing like the Euros and their policies. The New Deal was more left wing than any of the Repub approved milquetoast we get today.
I missed this one. When did we get one of these? We're talking about Obama aren't we?
I'm not familiar with the behavior patterns of other countries in relation to Repub/Dem presidents. Doesn't seem like Obama did much to to let them trample us though as Qaddafi was killed under his admin with Hilary acting like she was appalled by their own plan (the fucking crocodile). Also, they droned the hell of the Mid East.
We already have the largest military budget by far and it keeps increasing. R&D + hardware acquisition is really damn high and I'm pretty sure we still have the most advanced military on the planet. Is it actually possible to afford any more?
Updating military doctrine could refer to a lot of things.
Our entire gov either ignores, or can't respond to world happenings both Dem and Repub. Look at China's Belt & Road. That thing is looking to be insanely successful compared to ANY military investments so far.
Much of the world is becoming to sophisticated for this old way of engagement. Time for a paradigm shift away from classic military/etc overall.
Are Isolationist and Republican mutually exclusive? I could be misinterpreting you here, not sure.
Weak.
And somehow they seem to fail their way into victory all the time. If the left tries to actually stand the repubs will miracle their way into holding every part of gov like they did in 2016. {see electoral college and gerrymandering}
Who are the socialists and how did they neglect the military? I think we have different mental images of who "the left" is and what they do. The rest could take awhile to unpack so I'll leave it out of the response.
**I'm assuming you're referring to Pearl Harbor and not the West Coast attacks here**
I don't really know what to say. We could have done better? Everything can be done better in hindsight. We still kicked the fuck out of the Axis powers and simultaneously ushered in the nuclear age.
FDR was not nearly as neutral/hands off as you claim. Especially in regards to Britain and our econ war we had started with Japan before entering(claimed by some to be the cause of Pearl Harbor). Maybe it wasn't enough in hindsight?
And just as a finisher, we FUCKING NUKED a country TWICE. 'merica!
That's a weak lefty for ya. Too black and white, too reductive.
Rating: Jackie Chan What(9)/10
Unrelated Bonus:
I feel I need to clarify my position on immigration from earlier.
Immigration is complicated. There can be negative effects on the poorest Americans in the immediate vicinity of this cheap labor, but most of it is work no one wanted anyways, even if unemployed (like produce picking). For every one immigrant "driving wages down" in the trades there's 10 illiterate old hillbillies that are trying to get the same job and having the same effects. I know from having carpenters in the Fam and also having to weed these dangerously incompetent fuckers out when looking for a deal on repairs. Besides, repubs love immigrant labor. Just ask Reagan and Donald. Like Hilary said, there's a "private and public position".
I can't blame people who come here looking for a better life either for themselves, or their fam instead of picking themselves up by their bootstraps in a favela. It's sure as hell what I'd do.
Besides, "Emigrate or degenerate! The choice is yours!". I don't feel any ties to this country, or any other. I can't wait until I have enough money to barely be able to afford living in Melbourne!
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Far left as in Antifa, ID politics, extreme political correctness and the need for intersectionality on EVERYTHING. The far left runs their mouth about how laws should he followed but we should just let the illegals flood in and give them all a free pass. This is a relative new thing among the left/liberal establishment. It definitely was not like this in FDRs time.
Forgive me as I am lumping the socialist term with democratic presidents. As I pointed out earlier, a great deal of democratic administrations often support cuts in military/defense spending.
What do you think would have happened if America stayed isolationist? Had Hitler been given the chance to wreck GB, then the SU, the next logical target would be America. Sometimes intervening to keep another country from going under is in our best interests. Isolationist/hippie liberals do not understand this.
Again, historically, I pointed out that other countries tend to be more active in 'testing', how much they can get away with when a leftist president is in office. Obama also gave the Iranians billions with his retarded nuke deal, which the Iranian authorities used to fund their proxies in attacks on American and coalition troops. Obama also paid Iran to return American hostages. In regards to China, their defense spending has been rising along with their economy. Just a decade ago, the PLAAF had no stealth fighters. The PLAN had no aircraft carriers and their navy was mostly considered a green water one. Things have changed a lot since then. The PLAAF fields the J-20 5th gen stealth fighter while the PLAN fields 2 carrier battle groups. The addition of a new dedicated attack helicopter like the WZ 10 wasn't because the chinese were lowering their defense expenditures. Non nuclear, conventional engagements with conventional weaponry are still important. Nukes are mostly a deterrent to being invaded and occupied. Also, our government/military deters a lot. China consistently bullies its smaller neighbors with expansive maritime claims. Also don't forget Taiwan, which the PRC would not hesitate to invade were it not for U.S. protection. NATO, has consistently checked Russian aggression, mostly Putins desire to reincorporate the former Soviets satellites into Russias sphere of influence.
Again, historically, democratic dominated administrations have been more receptive to the idea that the U.S. should do less in global policing while attempting to play 'fair', while other nations go on brazen power grabs.
What are you talking about? The democrats have historically dominated U.S. politics, one example being the republicans haven't had a majority in the house for 40 years, back in 1952. From 1933-1995, the republicans only held both the house and senate for 4 years. The republican revolution was more recent and mostly attributed to Gingrichs idea that the GOP should be much more partisan and cut throat than they were in the past.
Even when taking into consideration the dem controlled congress would under cut him, FDR limited intervention to lend lease, which while helping, would not have done enough. It took Pearl Harbor to get America to contribute boots om the ground.. Maybe if we had done more to stop Japanese aggression in China much earlier, maybe, Japan would not have had the resources to be as tough as they were?
Im regards to immigration, there is a reason we have rules and set limits. The U.S. is already the worlds third most populous nation. If we were to all of a sudden have open borders and to grant citizenship to just anyone, it would be chaos. The whole problem with illegal immigration is the slippery slope effect. It is also funny how one can get government forms in Spanish, easily, in the SW while no other immigrants from non spanish speaking countries, get this benefit. Is this fair? So just because certain migrants have an easier time getting into the U.S. by virtue of geographic proximity, does it mean they should get preferential treatment over other migrants who have to cross an ocean to get here? This is the core problem with not enforcing immigration. Keep in mind good intent can aldo be very damaging.
Forgive me as I am lumping the socialist term with democratic presidents. As I pointed out earlier, a great deal of democratic administrations often support cuts in military/defense spending.
What do you think would have happened if America stayed isolationist? Had Hitler been given the chance to wreck GB, then the SU, the next logical target would be America. Sometimes intervening to keep another country from going under is in our best interests. Isolationist/hippie liberals do not understand this.
Again, historically, I pointed out that other countries tend to be more active in 'testing', how much they can get away with when a leftist president is in office. Obama also gave the Iranians billions with his retarded nuke deal, which the Iranian authorities used to fund their proxies in attacks on American and coalition troops. Obama also paid Iran to return American hostages. In regards to China, their defense spending has been rising along with their economy. Just a decade ago, the PLAAF had no stealth fighters. The PLAN had no aircraft carriers and their navy was mostly considered a green water one. Things have changed a lot since then. The PLAAF fields the J-20 5th gen stealth fighter while the PLAN fields 2 carrier battle groups. The addition of a new dedicated attack helicopter like the WZ 10 wasn't because the chinese were lowering their defense expenditures. Non nuclear, conventional engagements with conventional weaponry are still important. Nukes are mostly a deterrent to being invaded and occupied. Also, our government/military deters a lot. China consistently bullies its smaller neighbors with expansive maritime claims. Also don't forget Taiwan, which the PRC would not hesitate to invade were it not for U.S. protection. NATO, has consistently checked Russian aggression, mostly Putins desire to reincorporate the former Soviets satellites into Russias sphere of influence.
Again, historically, democratic dominated administrations have been more receptive to the idea that the U.S. should do less in global policing while attempting to play 'fair', while other nations go on brazen power grabs.
What are you talking about? The democrats have historically dominated U.S. politics, one example being the republicans haven't had a majority in the house for 40 years, back in 1952. From 1933-1995, the republicans only held both the house and senate for 4 years. The republican revolution was more recent and mostly attributed to Gingrichs idea that the GOP should be much more partisan and cut throat than they were in the past.
Even when taking into consideration the dem controlled congress would under cut him, FDR limited intervention to lend lease, which while helping, would not have done enough. It took Pearl Harbor to get America to contribute boots om the ground.. Maybe if we had done more to stop Japanese aggression in China much earlier, maybe, Japan would not have had the resources to be as tough as they were?
Im regards to immigration, there is a reason we have rules and set limits. The U.S. is already the worlds third most populous nation. If we were to all of a sudden have open borders and to grant citizenship to just anyone, it would be chaos. The whole problem with illegal immigration is the slippery slope effect. It is also funny how one can get government forms in Spanish, easily, in the SW while no other immigrants from non spanish speaking countries, get this benefit. Is this fair? So just because certain migrants have an easier time getting into the U.S. by virtue of geographic proximity, does it mean they should get preferential treatment over other migrants who have to cross an ocean to get here? This is the core problem with not enforcing immigration. Keep in mind good intent can aldo be very damaging.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/16/arts/music/blind-auditions-orchestras-race.html
Blind auditions didn't help making orchestras more diverse, so NYT now demands to stop blind auditions again and instead hire by quotas even if it means lower quality.
My luls are immeasurable and my day is made.
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Also, 11 out of 16 mods on the ActualLesbians subreddit were transwomen, and so many were banned there for not being willing to date non-biological-women that they formed a new subreddit, which was subsequently nuked?
My sides are in orbit.
Blind auditions didn't help making orchestras more diverse, so NYT now demands to stop blind auditions again and instead hire by quotas even if it means lower quality.
My luls are immeasurable and my day is made.
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Also, 11 out of 16 mods on the ActualLesbians subreddit were transwomen, and so many were banned there for not being willing to date non-biological-women that they formed a new subreddit, which was subsequently nuked?
My sides are in orbit.
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Suck the dick you bigoted TERFS! Love seeing intersectional feminism eat each other.
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Hey, pretty lady. Pretty ladies shouldn't say things like that. That's totally dirty. You must be a guy.
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https://apnews.com/f273a11675373e10630e657383c915be
US Marshals Special Operations Group? That sounds badass. These Leftist fucks should be thankful to be in the presence of unique law enforcement groups. I would be asking them questions in between bean bag rounds bouncing off my head.
BOOM CRACKAPOW
"So are you like a SWAT team or do you hunt down local terrorist cells?"
SMACK
"Right probably need to know information."
BANG
"I can't hear you but I think you say you no longer what to have this conversation."
US Marshals Special Operations Group? That sounds badass. These Leftist fucks should be thankful to be in the presence of unique law enforcement groups. I would be asking them questions in between bean bag rounds bouncing off my head.
BOOM CRACKAPOW
"So are you like a SWAT team or do you hunt down local terrorist cells?"
SMACK
"Right probably need to know information."
BANG
"I can't hear you but I think you say you no longer what to have this conversation."
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“Usually when we see people in unmarked cars forcibly grab someone off the street we call it kidnapping,”
Lmao.
US Marshalls and Border Patrol, fucking, dressing up like operators and kidnapping soyboys.
BAHAHAHA.
Lmao.
US Marshalls and Border Patrol, fucking, dressing up like operators and kidnapping soyboys.
BAHAHAHA.
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TorontoReign
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Probably because they said they were going to commit criminal acts. Just what they deserve. FUCK THE SYSTEM! BURN DOWN THE WHITEHOUSE! WHHHHATTTT!? I AM IN JAILLLLLLL!?
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I just like the idea that the state voted ok with protests but there's a bunch of Feds just standing there firing rubber bullets at them still. It's like trump sent people to give them wedgies and they can't do anything about it.
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That depends on if the protesters are chunking fucking rocks or not. Places like CNN leave that out but Fox will actually cover the part where the fucking random person started throwing shit. Tear gas will not kill them they need to grow up. I willingly sucked that shit in just like you did. Wahhhhh.
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It may kill some people. IDK. At my age I can still take tear gas. Like, years of smoking at that point and spicy food really acclimated me. Also, things like gas masks and jumping jacks and explosions make me all excited and shit and wanna do stupid shit and play around.
What I have a problem with is shooting people in the fucking face with grenades and shit. That should be criminal.
What I have a problem with is shooting people in the fucking face with grenades and shit. That should be criminal.
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Pretty sure they just can't shoot half the time like most people that carry firearms. I won't defend crooked cops but bean bag rounds do not fly straight.
My stepdad is just like this guy. Super healthy looking middle aged guy.
Cops need to be prosecuted for negligence at the very least.
My stepdad is just like this guy. Super healthy looking middle aged guy.
Cops need to be prosecuted for negligence at the very least.
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We have the nicest communist government.
Good thing we have all of these firearms to keep them out of the living room.
Whats funny how our intelligence programs are all decentralized, so there could right now be the CIA fighting the fucking NSA in the street right now, and they are freaking out trying to stop something else they fucked up.
Good thing we have all of these firearms to keep them out of the living room.
Whats funny how our intelligence programs are all decentralized, so there could right now be the CIA fighting the fucking NSA in the street right now, and they are freaking out trying to stop something else they fucked up.
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It's no different than it was a thousand years ago when various groups tried to take over the Holy land. It's just new fancy toys with new rhetoric and new Gods.
https://apnews.com/b41b3eae4574d3630d6904261ad88871
I'm seriously shaking right now. Well the AC is turned up pretty high.
https://apnews.com/b41b3eae4574d3630d6904261ad88871
I'm seriously shaking right now. Well the AC is turned up pretty high.
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