JFK was rather a weak president and his star status was due to his good looks and youth rather than political acumen.
Remember this guy didn't even want to be president and had to be forced by daddy Kennedy. We can also mention therumored voter fraud that put this guy into office with Daddy Kennedy working with the mob to encourage people to vote and also Kennedy votes from dead people.
Then he brought his brother into all sorts of meetings which the AG wasn't even authorised to be in. He failed to thoroughly question his advisors on the viability of a people revolt and just jumped the gun on the Bay Of Pigs fiasco.
His only major achievements were the space program and his lukewarm support on civil rights. I would chalk up the missile crisis as luck but it was more of a win for the soviets with the removal of our missiles in Turkey.
Kennedy won because Nixon was a shitbird and later got to prove it.
Change My Mind! Lol, anyways-
I'm aware of the 1960 election controversy and I (personally) do not think it is comparable (still not great though) to losing the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes and then being installed by an Ivy League Vanguard party. Trump (goddamn trust fund brat) unequivocally failed his way into office, which was my original point.
I don't disagree that there were issues with Kennedy. I'm not a Kennedy fanboy, maybe I've presented my self as such? All I am saying is that Kennedy was a step in the right direction in many ways and was a good start to get to today's(or rather yesterdays) left leaning political climate, which is generally far more favorable to average people than the right. At the very least we can nudge the dems in the direction we want, than say, the repubs.
Also, weak in what way, or in comparison to what exactly? Was this related to how he handled the Soviets? Was it Khrushchev that called him naive? I can't remember.
I don't think that not wanting a position of power is necessarily a bad thing. Isn't there a cliche about this?
In regards to leftist presidents, pretty much every single time we had a socialist/leftist president, we ended up having other countries attempting to fuck us.
WW 1 Socialist/Lefty We were unprepared.
WW 2 Socialist/Lefty. We were unprepared.
I'm not entirely sure how to approach this one. We should have been putting more money into preventative military options? We should have entered sooner? Entered harder? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Wasn't FDR that awesome president that was elected 4 terms (defeating repubs), taxed THE FUCK out of the wealth industrialists and gilded age descendant hold-outs which was instrumental in winning the war and building the world of today only for repubs to repeal it over the course of the 20th?
Korean War Socialist/Lefty. We were not prepared.
Vietnam War Frenchies but then..... Socialist/Lefty
Sure, I guess?
As opposed to how prepared and awesome we are whenever a repub launches us into the mid-east? How many are dead and what has it done to our economy again? What do we and the world have to show for it?
Whatever, this is too black and white a comparison anyways. The Clinton's are about as bad as the Bush's (and they should all be in jail).
Also, we had no business involving ourselves in Nam in the first place. Just the poor forced to die for the econ/culture war of the rich. If only we had learned our lesson then, and yet, here we are still in the mid-east and in increasing debt.
Dems would do a lot better if they weren't busy trying to help illegals, supporting rioters, and generally jumping into the race bait/ID pol game. If they stuck to their original mission of helping workers and pushing for reasonable government reform they could easily go back to the pre Gingrich days where they often dominated the political landscape.
No disagreements here, other than these are usually establishment dems that will often work with repubs and against lefties that do push for the worker and gov reforms. This is a part of why the Electoral College and Gerrymandering have to go. We'll get back to those things if we make it easier for peoples voices to be heard and unobstructed.
A lot of dems are just good cop to the Repubs bad cop.