POLL: Trump or Hillary

TRUMP OR HILLARY FOR US PRESIDENT 2016?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 30 34.5%
  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 10 11.5%
  • Just shoot me already

    Votes: 47 54.0%

  • Total voters
    87
  • Poll closed .
I kinda hope lots of people do end up voting for third party candidates.

The thing is, regardless of who wins, if a third party candidate gets enough votes, perhaps people will get over this "They don't have any chance" attitude, and will actually realize that they don't have to limit themselves to two candidates, therefore meaning an election between two bad candidates will never happen again.

Exactly.
 
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I kinda hope lots of people do end up voting for third party candidates.

The thing is, regardless of who wins, if a third party candidate gets enough votes, perhaps people will get over this "They don't have any chance" attitude, and will actually realize that they don't have to limit themselves to two candidates, therefore meaning an election between two bad candidates will never happen again.
I think that people would go "If the people who voted the third party voted Y instead, then X wouldn't have become our president!".
 
I think that people would go "If the people who voted the third party voted Y instead, then X wouldn't have become our president!".
Honestly, the world would be much better if people actually voted for who they wanted to win, rather than voting for candidates they dislike out of fear of losing the election.
 
I'm kinda excited to see all the dirt being dug up on boh candidates. Now someone mentioned Bill Clinton having been involved with Jeffrey Ebstein's sex den and his rape allegations and how Hillary helped keeping it all under the rug, and there's rumours that the only reason Trump didn't use the Ebstein connection so far was because he was involved with that, too.
Fun times ahead.
Seriously, what is it with this ... incredible focus on sex and sex scandals in the US? I have sometimes the feeling you can kill a hooker and snort cokain, and get away with it, depending on what ever if you actually had sex with her.
And that from a nation with the largest porn industry this planet has ever seen since the first human walked this earth.
 
Seriously, what is it with this ... incredible focus on sex and sex scandals in the US? I have sometimes the feeling you can kill a hooker and snort cokain, and get away with it, depending on what ever if you actually had sex with her.
And that from a nation with the largest porn industry this planet has ever seen since the first human walked this earth.
Have you never played GTA? That's the American dream, buddy.
 
Honestly, the world would be much better if people actually voted for who they wanted to win, rather than voting for candidates they dislike out of fear of losing the election.
I heard ranked voting prevents the candidates from being too polarized because one might not be someone's first choice but they could still be someone's second choice.
 
Gary burned his bridges with the libertarians... So even he is no longer an option.
Do you mean by thinking that people need a license to operate a metal box that moves 100 mps or by being ignorant of the problem in the Middle East?
 
Do you mean by thinking that people need a license to operate a metal box that moves 100 mps or by being ignorant of the problem in the Middle East?
By partnering up with a guy who is anti-second amendment and by saying stupid shit in recent interviews. Gary is now mainstream while his niche used to be the fringe. The only reason why he might get more votes than before is simply because the only two mainstream candidates are fucking insane.

As for Aleppo, even if you're an isolationist presidential candidate, doesn't mean you don't need to follow current affairs...
 
At Least Trump Won't Try to Hide it When Fucking the World like Criminal Clinton, that is as good as it can get for the rest of the world
 
The best course of action for America in this election would be a third party candidate, and there is no better third party candidate than this guy:
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It's funny how Trump's actions of decades ago take the spot light, while the email leaks of Hillary & Podesta mention "wet work" (explicitly in the context of assassination since the writer comments he's "not talking about a pool party either", and not in the context of state business or legitimate goverment backed covert ops), how person X needs to get a good job within the party or in government because X "knows where the bodies are burried" (granted, that one might have been figurative), shows how supporting Hillary allows you to buy cushy government positions, comments about the successfull manipulation of the supreme court (and "putting supreme court judges in their place so they don't get any ideas"), confirmation that Hillary had non-private mails deleted from her server and lied about it, shows clandestine support to ISIS in Qatar and Saudi Arabia, shows that gun smuggling might be involved in the Benghazi fiasco, shows that Hillary blatantly lied to congress multiple times, shows that the DNC wilfully sabotaged Bernie Sanders to give Hillary the edge and shows how much Hillary is in the pocket of George Soros and foreign donors.
And Wikileaks is claiming it's leaking mails in a way which "ramp up" in sensitivity... Who knows what's more to come.

But let's keep talking about who may or may not have inappropriately touched someone decades ago... (sure, we shouldn't trivialize this, but HRC should be up for fucking treason instead of running for president)
 
Well Sua, in the United States you can snort cokain with a hooker, that's all nice and dandy, but you can't have also sex with her.
 
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Apparently in that crazy old USA, people value proveable assertions (like Trump not showing any respect for women) over those that are unproven or straight up whackjob conspiracy theories that people should be ashamed for believing.

If ol "crooked/insert epithet here if you have a childmind" Hillary is really so capable of getting away with things like murder, and she has such vast control and power over people, that 20 years of close scrutiny and millions of dollars of taxpayer money in years of increasingly deep investigations can't find or prove these things, then I think I'd probably call her a strong and capable leader who we should be clamoring to elect.

Yet somehow, nobody mentions this current scary power and capability that Hillary must have in this context, and instead they talk about how her husband (who is not running for office) diddled an intern consentualy back when most of the current voters were children, and when that intern has been quoted as totally wanting that diddling to further her own career. They try to sell us stories of her being weak and on deaths door, and having some different medical troubles every week.

Which one is it?

Is she uber powerful and capable of doing anything she wants with impunity and controlling the USA as a dictator forever, or is she a weak old woman with moments to live who has to be carried around by handlers, and who enabled her husband for "reasons"?
 
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All this "what's in her e-mails!" talk doesn't bother me even for a second. As long there is no real true proof, it's all nothing but accusations. But that's not the real issue in my opinion anyway. What really disturbs me about Hillary is her conection in politics, the she's the extension of the military-industrial complex, a lap dog of Wall-Street and pretty much any big Lobby you can imagine. Hillary is pretty much the embodiment of stagnation and what's wrong with current politics.
You can say about Bernie what you want, but he was much more of a honest politican than Hillary with less skeletons hidden in his closet.
 
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