Thanks for correcting the record.
POLL: Trump or Hillary
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Why vote for a left nut or a right nut when you can vote for a big Johnson?
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http://www.businessinsider.com/gary-johnson-doesnt-know-who-harriet-tubman-is-2016-9
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whirlingdervish
Brahmin Cavalry Commander
At least he's not a socialist pretending to be a democrat, he's just a republican pretending to be a libertarian.
So far, none of the major wikileaks have been provably false. Their reputation is staked on it.
As for Trump's misbehavior being provable? At the moment it's someone's word against another's. Months ago there were already similar accusations and they were proven false after the press had a field day with them. Trump wouldn't be the first president to be a womanizer either...
I'm not a Trump supporter and I think a lot of his ideas are simplistic & retarded, but saying Hillary is a strong leader? Her tennure as a member of government has been plagued by utter ineptitude and failure. She has been a total joke to the entire world. Her only redeeming feature is that she's a woman (how progressive!) and that she has close ties to "the money". If your idea of a leader is someone who's good at making backdoor deals for his/her own gain however, then yes, she's a very strong leader.
As for Bernie Sanders, if he actually cared about his supporters, he'd have returned the campaign fund donations which were left unused after he got his ass kicked at the DNC.
whirlingdervish
Brahmin Cavalry Commander
Trumps behavior is not "one word against another", ITS HIS WORD AGAINST HIM.
HIS ACTUAL WORDS INCLUDE:
Demonizing mexicans as rapists (but some of them could be ok people..)
Supporting torture as an information gathering technique of the state.
Praising our buddies in the Kremlin.
Planning to abuse the powers of the executive office he will never hold to attack his "enemies"
(ie: anyone who ever said anything about him)
Outright bragging about his ability to perform sexual assault and get away with it ON TAPE.
Confirming that he paid jack shit in taxes and thinks everyone who did pay them is just dumb.
Mocking the infirm.
Him being a pompous blowhard who talks about himself in the actual fucking 3rd person.
Lets not even get started on his actions, because as the supposed representative of the party that claims on representing christian family values, he's just laughably wrong for that job.
HIS ACTUAL WORDS INCLUDE:
Demonizing mexicans as rapists (but some of them could be ok people..)
Supporting torture as an information gathering technique of the state.
Praising our buddies in the Kremlin.
Planning to abuse the powers of the executive office he will never hold to attack his "enemies"
(ie: anyone who ever said anything about him)
Outright bragging about his ability to perform sexual assault and get away with it ON TAPE.
Confirming that he paid jack shit in taxes and thinks everyone who did pay them is just dumb.
Mocking the infirm.
Him being a pompous blowhard who talks about himself in the actual fucking 3rd person.
Lets not even get started on his actions, because as the supposed representative of the party that claims on representing christian family values, he's just laughably wrong for that job.
Dr Fallout
Centurion
At least he's outright honest about it.
Alright boys, round up the Order and most of the NMA. We're here arresting you for lewd jokes and sexual innuendos, you dirty sick fucks.
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Wants good relations with Russia? Obviously some damn suckup. We need to be the assholes the world sees us and rule supreme.
Mr Fish
Slippy sloppy, The
Still going for Trump.
Illuminati Confirmed!
Banned
Statistics show that many women get raped on their illegal journey into the US, I don't get what the issue here is.
That one is a bit fucked. As the Nazis discovered long ago, you are actually far more successful in interrogations if you're treat your prisoners kindly. But then again, they were dealing with a different kind of prisoner.
Because they're bombing ISIS. Would you be bitching about the very same issue in 1941, when the Kremlin was inhabited by some far more evil figures?
Nice source there, dude.
Sexual assault? Where are you even getting this bullshit? Since when is it a secret that there are vapid whores out there that like to be grabbed by the crotch by rich and famous men?
And when was the last time you paid more than you had to in taxes?
Did you even consider, for just a moment, that this story might be bullshit? Look at the movements he makes when he's mocking the journalist. Now look at the movements he makes when he's mocking absolutely anyone else in the same manner.
How does occasionally speaking of yourself in third person make you less fit to be president?
So... He sucks because he's not the shiniest example of something he never claimed to be a shining example of?
If Americans are upset with both Clinton and trump why can't they vote someone else. All here about is these two Clinton and trump what other canadaties ? Or are those just as bad. Btw I am from UK so don't really know US system. But from what I can see both trumo and hilliary are as bad as each other. I mean you might hav eto vote another party you don't want but you should be voting for you candiate you want to repersent your area/state what ever it is US.
Murrcans whacked their stuff over their demuhcrzy and freeduhm so much that they forgot that they don't actually have to chose between a rock and a hard place.
Well, and there are people like Illuminati Confirmed! who only vote Trump because Don Black doesn't run.
I kinda still don't understand though ? So americans can on vote trump or Hillary ? They can't actually vote anything else or they other option are just as bad
They could vote for one of the third party candidates like Jill Stein or Gary Johnson, but since these get way less media coverage many don't even know they exist, and the rest basically thinks that voting for someone who doesn't have a chance of winning is throwing your vote away, forming a self-fullfilling prophecy.
Douglas Adams also describes it well:
http://imgur.com/gallery/dzSyE48
Maybe we shouldn't have dumped our human trash in the colonies back then...
I see because yeah I only see the media coverage in UK or trump or Hillary. It seems alitle stupid though that other candidates arn't given coverage. In UK it a law on TV that you have to give all the main partys e.g labour liberal conversative etc the same amout of coverage/mention. It seems a shame though that most people don't even know the other canadaites because I honest think from what i've seen so far someone should have astronger case than these two. I also see now why the simpson called it a two party system because yeah that defiantly how it feels
Ragemage
Wept for Zion
All the candidates are horrible in their own special way (this includes the 3rd Party candidates) but with all these recent email revelations from Camp Hillary and how badly they're trying to cover everything up (to the point of managing to shut off Assange's internet even though he's in the Ecuadorian embassy), you'd have to be pretty ignorant or just extremely uncaring about what happens to our country to vote for Hillary and think you're in the right at this point.
For example, her team's awful comments about the Catholic Church: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6293
The fact that Hillary still wants civil unions for gay people instead of gay marriage as she claims: http://wearechange.org/wikileaks-leak-reveals-clinton-still-secretly-gay-marriage/
People that work with Clinton openly admitting to trying to incite violence in Trump rallies:
While everyone goes on about Trump's p*ssy comments everyone seems to forget Clinton's racist remarks from a few years ago: http://www.salon.com/2016/03/01/we_...illary_clintons_shameful_hypocrisy_on_racism/
The fact that her camp wanted the Bernardino Shooter to be a white man instead of a Muslim so they could spread it like wildfire: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/john-podesta-wishes-san-bernardino-shooter-white/ (very right-wing site but it's the email that's important and it's a short article)
And there's a lot more where that came from. Say what you want about Trump but don't you dare try to act like Hillary Clinton's some perfect little angel when she's far more corrupt and has over 30 years of government fraud under her tracksuit.
For example, her team's awful comments about the Catholic Church: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6293
The fact that Hillary still wants civil unions for gay people instead of gay marriage as she claims: http://wearechange.org/wikileaks-leak-reveals-clinton-still-secretly-gay-marriage/
People that work with Clinton openly admitting to trying to incite violence in Trump rallies:
While everyone goes on about Trump's p*ssy comments everyone seems to forget Clinton's racist remarks from a few years ago: http://www.salon.com/2016/03/01/we_...illary_clintons_shameful_hypocrisy_on_racism/
The fact that her camp wanted the Bernardino Shooter to be a white man instead of a Muslim so they could spread it like wildfire: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/john-podesta-wishes-san-bernardino-shooter-white/ (very right-wing site but it's the email that's important and it's a short article)
And there's a lot more where that came from. Say what you want about Trump but don't you dare try to act like Hillary Clinton's some perfect little angel when she's far more corrupt and has over 30 years of government fraud under her tracksuit.
FalloutIsMyDrug
Fo3 Enjoyer(converted) Copium Junkie
The problem is that most people are so focused on the Republican vs Democrat fight that they can't see any other option. American voters, whether they care for either of the two major parties, are forced to choose one of the extremes because no other party or independent is ever going to win. I hate the two party system as it forces Americans to choose red or blue instead of basing votes on the merits of the candidate. So long as we believe that one of the two parties has to win, we will be locked in this fight.
And the fight never ends.
Personally, I don't agree very much with either party. I would have to choose between Democrats for advancement of rights and Republicans for government management(and guns! *pew pew pew*). To me, both sides are shit at doing what the other is good at. I decided that I'm not going to vote because both candidates are terrible and I couldn't care less about the parties. We're going to have a shitty president either way. I guess I would slightly prefer Trump because at least it would be entertaining. Also, fake people make me irate. If you don't know what I'm talking about, just watch this:
And the fight never ends.
Personally, I don't agree very much with either party. I would have to choose between Democrats for advancement of rights and Republicans for government management(and guns! *pew pew pew*). To me, both sides are shit at doing what the other is good at. I decided that I'm not going to vote because both candidates are terrible and I couldn't care less about the parties. We're going to have a shitty president either way. I guess I would slightly prefer Trump because at least it would be entertaining. Also, fake people make me irate. If you don't know what I'm talking about, just watch this:
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Mr Fish
Slippy sloppy, The
I wish Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders had stayed in the rally, they had reasonable support and if they kept going until the finish line then it'd show the americans that it doesn't have to be about some 'final two'. I mean in the debates, Jill Stein and Gary Johnson didn't get the chance to debate. And why would they? They're nobodies, the debates are for candidates that 'matter'. But imagine if it had to be shared between 4 candidates. It could've ended up fracturing the republican and democratic party. Cause third party candidates are pretty much irrelevant. Yes, they're there and they're trying their very best but so long as the media as a whole only wants the 'final two' what point does it serve? Now if the democratic and republican party fractured on the other hand... Then their parties would become smaller. Give an election or two and the libertarians and green party might grow in size. But the way things are currently running third parties are treated as a joke.
Mr Fish
Slippy sloppy, The
Oh none of them are particularly good. Only one I liked was Bernie but even he had flaws with naivetë and idealism. Cruz, Trump, Hillary, Johnson, Stein, all of them are crap. USA seems pretty fucked. 
