Pro life or Pro choice

Yeah, a lot of teenagers are gobbling it up right now. I guess it's sort of a counter movement to the slightly older folks (mid-20's) who are the polar opposite and think that without 100% pampering nothing can be done, ever.
I just don't know anymore. It's getting hard to distinguish between the loud people on the Internet and how it's actually going on in the real world.

And I guess it's true for all generations. Everyone thinks they're better than everyone else. I'm so tired of this shit.

You should be, you old cunt. Jesus, it's fuckers like you that are keeping people like me back.

(JOKES)
 
You should be, you old cunt. Jesus, it's fuckers like you that are keeping people like me back.

(JOKES)
Hey, I'm only 28, the right age to start fucking it up for you youngsters even more. Fear my wrath, kiddo!

What a brilliant idea. I'll keep that one, if you don't mind.
Actually, I'd rather start with social studies/liberal arts/philosophy majors, just so they'll finally produce some useful hot air.
 
I am pro choice, I know around 6 people who have done abortions, and some of them more than one.

I think that if you get pregnant and you don't want it, Remove the cluster of cells, and be done with it.
 
Look for threads about muscles and pumping iron :V
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That triggers me, I thought that on a basement dwelling board like NMA we would have some god damn FAT ACCEPTANCE!! A thread where people can voluntarily post about fitness and their ideal of the human body which no one is forced to read? I hope @Tagaziel comes back and bans such intolerance.

Anyway, @R.Graves sent me a picture of you, @Hassknecht , and I gotta say that you're quite the purdy boi. :wiggle:

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Oh and uh, back on topic I guess.
We need more stem cells for rich people to slurp down so they'll stay alive longer.
Modern day vampires, yknow.
 
:jiggy:
That triggers me, I thought that on a basement dwelling board like NMA we would have some god damn FAT ACCEPTANCE!! A thread where people can voluntarily post about fitness and their ideal of the human body which no one is forced to read? I hope @Tagaziel comes back and bans such intolerance.

Anyway, @R.Graves sent me a picture of you, @Hassknecht , and I gotta say that you're quite the purdy boi. :wiggle:

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Oh and uh, back on topic I guess.
We need more stem cells for rich people to slurp down so they'll stay alive longer.
Modern day vampires, yknow.
I prefer the terminus "hulking manbeast of sexiness".
Anywyay, the question of pro-choice or pro-life is always a very complicated one. Personally, I'd say that I'm pro-choice, but despite the fetus not yet being a full human there's still the possibility of it becoming one. So while I'm all for allowing abortions, I'd strongly recommend not getting one unless it's medically necessary or some other extreme case. In an ideal world, of course, we wouldn't need abortions, but right now the possibility is definitely reassuring. But yeah, I'd rather implore other options like adoption before abortion, but abortions in general should be allowed.
 
What disturbs me is, that the mother has all the rights here, where as the father has like literaly none. The argument is, but it's my body! But of course, once the screaming worm is out, the father has eventually to pay alimony. Suddenly it's not part of the body anymore.
 
What disturbs me is, that the mother has all the rights here, where as the father has like literaly none. The argument is, but it's my body! But of course, once the screaming worm is out, the father has eventually to pay alimony. Suddenly it's not part of the body anymore.
The father ought to be able to opt out, meaning that he doesn't have to pay child support but there should be some form of criteria for this.

Example 1
Woman gets pregger and doesn't tell the guy about it, it isn't until it is past the time that an abortion is legal to perform that she informs him or even later than that. In this scenario he has no idea what is going on behind the scenes, he should be able to file for an "opting out". If the woman has made a bunch of plans and never told him about it then fuck her. It's her own fault for making such plans without telling him about it. He should not be financially ruined just cause she did things behind his back.

Example 2
The woman informs the guy during the time when an abortion is a possibility, there are witnesses that know that this has happened and the guy did not file for an "opting out" and waited until the child had been born. In this scenario it is a "fuck HIM" cause if he didn't want to support the child then he should've opted out, instead he didn't and one could argue that he led her on that he'd be a part of the child's life. It's his own fault for not taking action against this.

Example 3
The guy knows what happened and filed for an "opting out", he will not be forced to pay child support.

Example 4
The guy has stated he wants to be a part of the childs life but at the last minute backs out. The woman has already made plans for how to support the child between the two of them, at this point he's practically fucking her over. So 'especially' fuck HIM.

Some people would probably moan about how it isn't fair for the child if the man opts out but you know what? It is a woman's body so it her choice what kind of a world the child will be born into. If she knows that she ain't getting money from him then she best have a plan ready or put the child up for adoption. No matter how the life turns out for her and the child it is not the man's fault. It is up to the woman to make these decisions and plans and if she dun gun fucked up? Then she dun gun fucked up. She's responsible for the child's life being one of probable poverty. Not the man.

By men not having a choice we're basically forced into financial slavery. And that's fucked up. That's far from equality and humanitarianism. So yeah, opting out should be an option for men IMO.

Personally I think that men should go get vasectomies and save some good sperm in multiple sperm banks so that an accident doesn't happen. Only way to get someone pregger is by using stored sperm. Meaning that if someone you fucked get pregger? It ain't yours and you should demand a blood test.
 
The father ought to be able to opt out, meaning that he doesn't have to pay child support but there should be some form of criteria for this.
It's very hard to prove or disporove some of those claims though, as reality in curt shows already ... but I get you.

Thing is, it's alright that parents are responsible for their child, be it financially or with the education, you don't want a screaming worm? Don't get one! It's just, I believe when as far as the rights go, both parents should have them equally when it comes to the child. But I understand that cases like rape though, might be a real problem.
 
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A.You realise that under most jurisdictions the father can collect child support from the mother if the father is the one with custody over the child right? This image is really misleading as it implies that the mother can demand child support whereas the father has to "suck it up and pay it up", when really whichever parent has custody over the child can demand child support. This is a misleading image to get people to go against child support despite it being pretty egalitarian towards whoever has custody of the child

B. "Regardless of what is best for the child". During pregnancy there is no child, there is a fetus. "What's best for the child" doesn't make sense since there is no child to have interests

C. In all the areas the father doesn't have control, usually it's because the mother is the one who has to carry the child for 9 months. Why should the father have a say in abortion when it's not his body that's carrying the child?
 
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