Racism

I'm wondering if the universe might indeed be litterally infinite, if not in expanse, then in terms of time

Boxing something in is very convenient, and the human mind keep envisioning enclosures, but these enclosures are always arbitrary. Systems never remain closed, afaik, and if there is no permanent enclosure in our existence around us, then there is no reason why the universe itself should be enclosed.

Even if our particular space, the matter hailing from our particular big bang, can be seen in as a limited expanse, it might still be occuring inside a greater - and ultimately infinite - outter space, or "multiverse" or what have you
Well, infinities are always a tad bit annoying in terms of physics and math. If it exists an infinite time, then the universe's expansion must either come to a halt or continue forever, in which case the mass density would in the end go infinitely low.
 
Well, infinities are always a tad bit annoying in terms of physics and math. If it exists an infinite time, then the universe's expansion must either come to a halt or continue forever, in which case the mass density would in the end go infinitely low.
My self esteem follows the same logic

In seriousness, if the universes’ expansion continues forever I’m concerned about the formation of new planets, if there even are any; I’m somewhat familiar with the process of how they’re created, but how much of the infinite multiverse is gonna be just dead space?
 
I see it more as racist because it’s purposefully exaggerated
meh. its just a simple caricature. like when people draw jews with big noses.

and before you say

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i'd like to remind you that, at least generally speaking, people of jewish descent have some big ass noses.

look at Adrien Brody

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didn't stop him from being handsome AF

so why get mad over a simple exaggeration? a caricature. people getting mad over fuck all nothing can only breed hatred and anger and what good is that? people get mad too quick, i swear.
 
Well, infinities are always a tad bit annoying in terms of physics and math. If it exists an infinite time, then the universe's expansion must either come to a halt or continue forever, in which case the mass density would in the end go infinitely low.

But that could be true for our region of space, our "enclosure" (which wouldn't truly be closed, but part of a wider fabric) would eventually come to an end, like bubbles in a foam, popping, and re-growing from the redistributed matter

I know only my very most rudimentary cosmology though, but I really like... the dea... of the universe being... beyond our zome of comfort, so to speak.
If our "region" of space, our "bubble of expansion" is part of a wider "ocean" a wider "landscape", that stretches across distance as well as time infinitely, that would be SO frustrating, SO contrary to our comfort, that it would in a fun way be the most interesting outcome

Also, I always love to glide an eye over at religious people, like - it's all God's creation. It is God's undeniable purpose for His Children to traverse all of it - all of it - all of it - now, then and before. That's a LOT of spreadding the good word they have ahead of them :V

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Christ Graves... I'm not even going to ask what your point is, don't you have some TV to watch or something? Netflix?
 
But that could be true for our region of space, our "enclosure" (which wouldn't truly be closed, but part of a wider fabric) would eventually come to an end, like bubbles in a foam, popping, and re-growing from the redistributed matter

I know only my very most rudimentary cosmology though, but I really like... the dea... of the universe being... beyond our zome of comfort, so to speak.
If our "region" of space, our "bubble of expansion" is part of a wider "ocean" a wider "landscape", that stretches across distance as well as time infinitely, that would be SO frustrating, SO contrary to our comfort, that it would in a fun way be the most interesting outcome

Also, I always love to glide an eye over at religious people, like - it's all God's creation. It is God's undeniable purpose for His Children to traverse all of it - all of it - all of it - now, then and before. That's a LOT of spreadding the good word they have ahead of them :V
Then I guess we shouldn’t get mad that they’re starting by going door to door.

But those heathen fucking Mantis People aren’t going to be receptive to the word of our Lord.
 
@R.Graves I’m not mad, more just wondering why we feel the need to draw charictures, if that makes sense.
because they're funny. and you can do it with everyone and everything.

it doesn't even have to be a race thing. you can make fun of obama's big ass ears. make fun of the Trumps hair. or even bruce campbell's chin. tbh i'm having trouble even understanding why its a problem. the races of the world look different. what's the point in ignoring that when you can poke fun at it.
 
Then I guess we shouldn’t get mad that they’re starting by going door to door.

I like religious "purpose", like - the plants are there, so that we can eat them. The beasts of burden are there, so that we can tame them. The lion is there... to inspire us to walk with caution? Sure.

Oceans are there to sail. Of course, God is wise. On some planets there are oceans of liquid carbon. The pressure is so immense, the carbon is compressed beyond the state of transparent crystal, beyond diamond. It flows, it waves, it's an ocean. If we were to attempt placing a boat on top of this ocean, it would probably not give even an inch. First of all, the atmosphere itself would absolutely shatter beyond molecular integrity anything we attempted to land there - but if we did somehow land a boat there, the boat would simple tumble around on top of these waves as if they were concrete - while they moved like liquid.

Purpose: Sail with boat!
 
But that could be true for our region of space, our "enclosure" (which wouldn't truly be closed, but part of a wider fabric) would eventually come to an end, like bubbles in a foam, popping, and re-growing from the redistributed matter

I know only my very most rudimentary cosmology though, but I really like... the dea... of the universe being... beyond our zome of comfort, so to speak.
If our "region" of space, our "bubble of expansion" is part of a wider "ocean" a wider "landscape", that stretches across distance as well as time infinitely, that would be SO frustrating, SO contrary to our comfort, that it would in a fun way be the most interesting outcome

Also, I always love to glide an eye over at religious people, like - it's all God's creation. It is God's undeniable purpose for His Children to traverse all of it - all of it - all of it - now, then and before. That's a LOT of spreadding the good word they have ahead of them :V
I like to think that the universe will at some point stop expanding and collapse on itself again. There's a hypothetical concept called "Omega Point" where it claims that right before the final collapse into a singularity the mass- and information-density of the universe will be such that an infinite amount of calculations can be performed in a finite time, basically allowing a new universe to be simulated in that instant right before the death of this universe.
Or maybe, after the collapse the singularity will spend an indeterminate amount of time as a singularity (because time doesn't exist anymore) until it somehow expands again into a new universe.
 
I like to think that the universe will at some point stop expanding and collapse on itself again. There's a hypothetical concept called "Omega Point" where it claims that right before the final collapse into a singularity the mass- and information-density of the universe will be such that an infinite amount of calculations can be performed in a finite time, basically allowing a new universe to be simulated in that instant right before the death of this universe.
Or maybe, after the collapse the singularity will spend an indeterminate amount of time as a singularity (because time doesn't exist anymore) until it somehow expands again into a new universe.
So basically the Universe is like God playing with a rubber band?
 
I like to think that the universe will at some point stop expanding and collapse on itself again. There's a hypothetical concept called "Omega Point" where it claims that right before the final collapse into a singularity the mass- and information-density of the universe will be such that an infinite amount of calculations can be performed in a finite time, basically allowing a new universe to be simulated in that instant right before the death of this universe.
Or maybe, after the collapse the singularity will spend an indeterminate amount of time as a singularity (because time doesn't exist anymore) until it somehow expands again into a new universe.

That is my favorite image of it, the expanse, the collapse, then the re-explosion, it's neatly cyclic
I still imagine it in a larger system though, again, I like the foam analogy to imagine this

Aurelius, on a more philosophical note, a lot of existence is about tension and release. We like tension and release in our narratives too, in our stories and our songs, in our sense of rythm, and in - again - the purposes we find.
To imagine the universe itself as a tension-release rythm is very satisfying.
 
like religious "purpose", like - the plants are there, so that we can eat them. The beasts of burden are there, so that we can tame them. The lion is there... to inspire us to walk with caution? Sure.

Oceans are there to sail. Of course, God is wise.
yeah okay but what good do wasps serve? they just live to fuck shit up. at least with mosquitoes you can argue that malaria and westnile can function as god's population control but wasps? all they do is hurt people. trash creation if you ask me.
 
Wasps make about as much sense as humans by now so it’s kind of ironic to see people giving them shit
 
yeah okay but what good do wasps serve? they just live to fuck shit up. at least with mosquitoes you can argue that malaria and westnile can function as god's population control but wasps? all they do is hurt people. trash creation if you ask me.

Of course, I was mocking religious ideas of "purpose". If you want the best examples of non purpose, look at viruses.
They inject their RNA into adequate enclosures
So that they can produce more viruses, with RNA to inject into adequate enclosures
So that they can produce more viruses, with RNA to inject into adequate enclosures
So that they can produce more viruses, with RNA to inject into adequate enclosures
So that they can produce more viruses, with RNA to inject into adequate enclosures
So that they can produce more viruses, with RNA to inject into adequate enclosures
Well, from there all of life on earth follow suit, in a way.
God, and his plan! :V
 
yeah okay but what good do wasps serve? they just live to fuck shit up. at least with mosquitoes you can argue that malaria and westnile can function as god's population control but wasps? all they do is hurt people. trash creation if you ask me.
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