Reactions to the GI scans

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Tannhauser, Jun 17, 2007.

  1. Silencer

    Silencer Night Watchman Staff Member Admin

    Nov 7, 2003
    Meh. So buy it from someone bored with the game, that way the publisher gets jack shit :D
  2. Sander

    Sander This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Jul 5, 2003
    You mean the paragraph that is pertinently irrelevant to whether or not buying a copy benefits Bethesda?

    Don't be silly. Maybe you should learn that the internet does not come with a special sarcasm interpreter or mind-reader. Which is why you should have expressed yourself more clearly.

    Also, how ironic it is that the person who also continues in a debate has to accuse the other person of wanting to argue. Give me a fucking break.
  3. Autoduel76

    Autoduel76 Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    May 14, 2007

    That's the same thing as buying it from a store.

    Just think about it.

    You buy from somebody else:

    Have you really not given money to Bethesda?

    Lets say the person you bought it from, paid Bethesda for it. You are then, paying him to take it off his hands.

    Thats the exact same thing that happens when you from a store. The store has already paid Bethesda for the game and you are paying them to take it off their hands.

    There's really no way to not support the game and buy it. Its an either or decision.

    You can save yourself a few bucks by going the used game route, but you are still financially supporting the game.
  4. Sander

    Sander This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Jul 5, 2003
    Are you kidding me?
    What horseshit. By buying it from a store, you are encouraging the store to buy new copies from Bethesda hence benefitting Bethesda.

    If you buy it from someone else (a non-retailer), you are in *no way* benefitting Bethesda, since that guy isn't going to be buying any copies from Bethesda or EB.
  5. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    By the sound of it Bethesda would probably make it illegal from people selling their 'used' copies of Bethesda games to others.
  6. Big T

    Big T Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Jan 23, 2004
    Bethesda doesn't need to, at least on one of the platforms.
  7. Silencer

    Silencer Night Watchman Staff Member Admin

    Nov 7, 2003
    Ladies and gentlemen, I will now cast "Summon Sorrow"

  8. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    I never thought I would saythis but this is incredible 'gay', not as in homosexual but as in as arrogant and asshole you can get.

    Okay, than make the price of a game a tenner from now on, and when the booklet gets dirty or goes missing you need to provide a replacement.
  9. Starseeker

    Starseeker Vault Senior Citizen

    Jul 25, 2003
    There are some decent benefits to living/working in China. If anyone wants games, I am taking orders.

    *obscure reference*

    "Hackers of the world, unite!"


    Edit: Maybe Sony is trying to pull a China. Did you know that you don't actually own any land in China? Everything belongs to the government. You purchase "usage" rights to it.
  10. Pariah

    Pariah First time out of the vault

    Jun 28, 2006
    It's true that Bethesda still would have benefit from the product in question. At the same time however, because you wouldn't be using the retailer as a conduit, the customer peddling to you will not be seen as two people catering to Beth.

    Because you're not directly supporting Bethesda, there's no betrayal of principles.
  11. Vault 69er

    Vault 69er Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    May 3, 2007
    ... do Sony have meetings where they decide the best way to piss off their remaining customers?
  12. generalissimofurioso

    generalissimofurioso The Hole Time Orderite

    Jun 17, 2007
    I'm pretty sure that every major corporation has meetings that the common man would find asinine and inane.

    Microsoft's "What's Our Next Generic Sci-Fi M-Rated Game" sessions are rollickingly hilarious...

    Soulless Microsoft Exec 504: Halo 3 isn't going to be ready in time, Master.

    Dictator-For-Life Bill Gates
    : Then we need something Halo-esque to fill the void. Something we can call innovative and industry changing based on a handful of gimmicks and next gen graphics alone.

    Soulless Microsoft Exec 802: Master, master! You have to see this new game from Epic! You play as a battle hardened soldier in super-armor going up against aliens or bugs or some shit! It's got guns an' swearing an' embarrassing character designs an' a shitty story that only complete ‘tards will be impressed by! YOU CAN CHAINSAW A GUY IN HALF!!!

    Dictator-For-Life Bill Gates: My god. This...this is perfect. We've got the 14 year-olds and their frat boy intellectual equivalents for sure! Time to blitz up the standard procedure, boys! I want TV and internet ads! I want you to double the amount of Moron Juice we put in the water supply! And don't forget to suck the dick of every two-bit game critic you can find until we have Game-of-the-Motherfucking-Year on our hands!

    Execs: Sir, yes sir!!!
  13. Per

    Per Vault Consort Staff Member Admin

    Apr 1, 2004
    Because you're a legit games salesman. No warez talk.
  14. Starseeker

    Starseeker Vault Senior Citizen

    Jul 25, 2003
    LOL, everything is China is legit! And I don't deal in warez.


    Seriously, why sell anything that you can get online? (you can get cracked version of anything online, so why sell it?) China is similar to Japan in the sense that anything Chinese made has "some" kind of copy right "protection", but most of the foreign goods in China don't get that unless they made a fuss about it. So a lot of these games will get a decent Chinese distribution but the publishing companies will never see a cent of it. That's why most Chinese made games are all MMOs, so they can keep charging to people to play it. And it looks like Sony is interested in taking this concept farther.
  15. Sorrow

    Sorrow So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Feb 9, 2006
    It's nothing new - if you would read software licences, then you would know that reselling games is illegal and that the policy that the user is paying for the licence to use the sofware since the dawn of time.
    That's why I find it amusing that people are fighting piracy and pointing to Ebay as a "legal" source of cheap games.

    Sony is just the first distributor that decided to put this rule into life.
    On the other hand it would completely fuck up the market of games that are no longer in sale.
  16. Galdred

    Galdred First time out of the vault

    Jan 12, 2007
    That is not completely correct, as Sander pointed out, the guy who paid Bethesda in the first place would have bought the game regardless of your decision.

    It still somewhat benefits Bethesda, though, as if you didn't buy it from him, he would have sold it on the second hand market, thus increasing the supply of used product and decreasing their cost, making people more likely to buy used copies than new ones from Bethesda.

    So yes, to a certain extent, it still indirectly benefits Bethesda, but it is in no way as "bad" as buying a new copy, and is not "the same thing as buying it from a store".
  17. TF

    TF First time out of the vault

    Jan 6, 2005
  18. Sorrow

    Sorrow So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Feb 9, 2006
    This may improve your mood :D
  19. generalissimofurioso

    generalissimofurioso The Hole Time Orderite

    Jun 17, 2007
    What? It's symbolism! I AM ANGRY!

    That and I'm making a point, that point being that Iron Man likes hurting people.

    Seriously though, I am getting sick of being told that I am not a REAL fan of Fallout, because I don't think Bethesda is going in the right direction...