RPGCodex gathers Fallout 3 quotes

I think that the main problem with those reviews was that they have a positive bias and outrightly lie about the game pleasing hardcore fans and being a true sequel.

The Dutch Ghost said:
Video stores also rent out console games here but I recently heard that because of some decision by game publishers they aren't allowed to rent out games anymore.
Probably in order to protect the publishers' interest and to make a few more extra sales.
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I wonder what would happen if book publishers would try to ban libraries...
 
Sorrow said:
I think that the main problem with those reviews was that they have a positive bias and outrightly lie about the game pleasing hardcore fans and being a true sequel.

The Dutch Ghost said:
Video stores also rent out console games here but I recently heard that because of some decision by game publishers they aren't allowed to rent out games anymore.
Probably in order to protect the publishers' interest and to make a few more extra sales.
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I wonder what would happen if book publishers would try to ban libraries...
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:lol: Did you know they are beginning to start a rating system for books?

I wonder if libraries will ban AO books :roll:
 
Hmmm I wonder where all those pricks are that said "It won't be oblivion with guns!!!!oneone Give it a chance"
 
DarkPhilly said:
Hmmm I wonder where all those pricks are that said "It won't be oblivion with guns!!!!oneone Give it a chance"
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Now they're saying "It's NOT Oblivion with guns because it has gore and cussing!!!"
No, I'm not making that up.
 
Mr. Teatime said:
I find this embarassing, on behalf of codex rather than anything else. These are carefully picked quotes from games preveiws we've already established are as biased as can be. They're not even developer quotes.

I really don't think this says much apart from declaring the codex to be as biased as the gaming previews they're taking quotes from.
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I dunno, I find this more of a humorous view at the horrible situation we're in. Is it biased? probably, but its not like there was much unbiased previews for them to obtain quotes from in the first place.
 
Mr. Teatime said:
I find this embarassing, on behalf of codex rather than anything else. These are carefully picked quotes from games preveiws we've already established are as biased as can be. They're not even developer quotes.

I really don't think this says much apart from declaring the codex to be as biased as the gaming previews they're taking quotes from.
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What's embarrassing is your eagerness to ignore the alarming signs and skip all negative quotes in DAC's newsposts, pretending that Fallout 3 is a decent Fallout game. Hopefully, Bethesda will recognize and reward your loyalty.

The quotes show the journalists' impressions. Nothing more, nothing less. But let's, as usual, write it all off and say that it aint so because all these sites are biased and clearly can't tell a first-person RPG from an "Oblivion with guns" shooter.

Don't be a dick, Teatime.
 
DarkPhilly said:
Hmmm I wonder where all those pricks are that said "It won't be oblivion with guns!!!!oneone Give it a chance"
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I'm right here.
PS: "BETHSOFT MORE LIKE BETHSUCK FALLOUT MORE LIKE FUCKUP 3 MORE LIKE 16!!!!oneone Do not buy"
 
VDweller said:
What's embarrassing is your eagerness to ignore the alarming signs and skip all negative quotes in DAC's newsposts, pretending that Fallout 3 is a decent Fallout game. Hopefully, Bethesda will recognize and reward your loyalty.

The quotes show the journalists' impressions. Nothing more, nothing less. But let's, as usual, write it all off and say that it aint so because all these sites are biased and clearly can't tell a first-person RPG from an "Oblivion with guns" shooter.

Don't be a dick, Teatime.
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Teatime is right, this is propaganda grade garbage.
It's funny.... but I wouldn't consider it relevant or even meaningful.

Jiggly McNerdington said:
I have to specifically fact-check my counter dickery?
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:lol:
 
xdarkyrex said:
VDweller said:
What's embarrassing is your eagerness to ignore the alarming signs and skip all negative quotes in DAC's newsposts, pretending that Fallout 3 is a decent Fallout game. Hopefully, Bethesda will recognize and reward your loyalty.

The quotes show the journalists' impressions. Nothing more, nothing less. But let's, as usual, write it all off and say that it aint so because all these sites are biased and clearly can't tell a first-person RPG from an "Oblivion with guns" shooter.

Don't be a dick, Teatime.
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Teatime is right, this is propaganda grade garbage.
It's funny.... but I wouldn't consider it relevant or even meaningful.
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Why is that?
 
VDweller said:
Why is that?
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It conveniently smooths over the CAUSE of why they compare it to Oblivion.

Read back in the thread a little bit, I already explained it.


It is cute and funny.
But not realistic.

The quotes are taken out of context.
 
So inaccurate comparisons just to explain to masses isn't propaganda and is realistic but quoting these comparisons suddenly makes it worse? :roll:
 
Tora said:
So inaccurate comparisons just to explain to masses isn't propaganda and is realistic but quoting these comparisons suddenly makes it worse? :roll:
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Out of context.

The comparisons were clearly drawn as a simple way of saying "they use the same engine" to the average idiot.
Read between the lines ;)
 
xdarkyrex said:
It conveniently smooths over the CAUSE of why they compare it to Oblivion.
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What about these quotes then?

The game could be categorized as a first-person shooter.
GameZone

Fallout 3 could be described as a first-person shooter...
Team XBOX

...first-person shooter vs. a top-down classic RPG.
Global Gaming

Let me guess, taken out of context, m i rite?

Speaking of context:

Gaming Trend quote: "Fighting in real time made me wince in fear that Fallout 3 could easily be Oblivion with guns."

Per: One for the Codex.

Gaming Trend guy: Taken in context perhaps - "Fighting in real time made me wince in fear that Fallout 3 could easily be Oblivion with guns. Todd allayed this fear by reminding us that our stats govern our weapon effectiveness, promising that he’d give us a better look at the combat system in action later on."

Me: That context thing sure changes everything. The game looks like Oblivion with gun, but Todd reminded us that the game has stats. What, there weren't any stats in Oblivion?

Read back in the thread a little bit, I already explained it.
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Explained? You've offered a theory that may or may not be related to reality.

It is cute and funny.
But not realistic.
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What exactly is not realistic?

The quotes are taken out of context.
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What context? "The game looks like a shooter, but it actually is a real deep Fallout classic RPG that only looks like a shooter'? That kinda context? Or "The game looks like a shooter, but Todd assured us that it's not"?
 
Taking the quotes regarding how it looks VISUALLY as a sign that anything aside from the most basic physical similarities are present is not correct.

Thats like me staring at two similar looking cars, and immediately assuming they have the same horse power and gas mileage.
 
Media previews comparing Fallout 3 to Oblivion are only natural, but are essentially meaningless in terms of deciding whether Fallout 3 is "more like Oblivion than Fallout 1 and 2."

Fallout 2 came out nine years ago. Oblivion came out last year. The electronic gaming market has grown incredibly since 1998, and there are simply more gamers now then there were back then. Comparing a new game to one that came out a year ago is more meaningful to the majority of readers than comparing it to a game from nine years ago that many of them have probably never even played. By their own admission, many of the authors of Fallout 3 previews did not play Fallout 1 or Fallout 2 -- so it makes no sense for them to compare Fallout 3 to games that they never even played.

When an author who did not play Fallout 1 or Fallout 2 but did play Oblivion and games like Gears of War write an article previewing Fallout 3 -- to an audience of which the vast majority have not played Fallout 1 or 2 but may have played Oblivion and modern shooter games -- the fact that he describes it as "like Oblivion with guns" is probably the most reasonable thing for him to say, when trying to compare Fallout 3 to something that is familiar both to him and to his audience.

A lot of people did actually like Oblivion; I have yet to play it myself as I don't have an Xbox 360 or PS3 and my PC is incredibly outdated, but I found Daggerfull extremely repetitive and devoid of any personality whatsoever and Morrowind only marginally less so. Regardless of what the Fallout fans on this site think of Oblivion, when someone who liked the game compares Fallout 3 to it, it is a favourable comparison and not a slam.

Besides, this community seems to pride themselves greatly on being able to make up their own minds and not have their preferences and opinions dictated to them by the media. So why are we so quick to jump on and support every media report that even hints any any sort of negative opinion of Fallout 3? I would expect this community to be more of the mind of "I will try it myself and then pass judgement" rather than leap to conclusions based on the impressions of gaming media reporters formed after a one hour demo of the game.
 
xdarkyrex said:
Out of context.

The comparisons were clearly drawn as a simple way of saying "they use the same engine" to the average idiot.
Read between the lines ;)
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So since you're so good at reading between the lines and reading minds could you please tell me what super powers you have to know for sure that The comparisons were clearly drawn as a simple way of saying "they use the same engine" to the average idiot. and not because the comparisons were actually dead on? The possibility for both DOES exist.
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Like I said before, I agree with you that the media likes to do dumbing down these days, but that doesn't mean what they say couldn't actually be true or dead on the way they're quotes right now, in or out of context.
 
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