RPGCodex gathers Fallout 3 quotes

The Dutch Ghost said:
Heh, what do you two think is going to happen if Bethesda's Fallout 3 and subsequent follow ups fail to gain the masses :)

Interesting story:

Yesterday, when I was at a game store to pick up my copy of "Civilization 4: Beyond the Sword", I ran into a young man and his mother (I think she was his mother) who was looking for a game for his birthday.

Apparently he had chosen "Elder Scrolls Oblivion" because he had played it at a friend's place, but he wasn't entirely sure as he was also looking at other games.

I made conversation with both and grew to the understanding of this, most of what he knew of Oblivion was based on the hype Bethesda had made.

They asked me in return what games I liked and what I would recommend.
I suggested that he should try to game first, rent it at the library before buying it, and that "Bioshock" would be released next month.

In the end he still decided to get Oblivion.

HA! I've been kicked out of Gamestop for doing the same thing...

They told me I was interfering with their business and asked me to leave...
 
generalissimofurioso said:
They told me I was interfering with their business and asked me to leave...

Most stores kick out people that discourage their clientele from buying products. As they have a right to. It's a store, fer chrissakes.
 
Brother None said:
Most stores kick out people that discourage their clientele from buying products. As they have a right to. It's a store, fer chrissakes.

It was a situation that was roughly the equivalent of being asked whether a produce stand had ripe grapes, and telling someone to try the plums instead.

I get kicking out someone who's being a ruckus, but someone who's actually doing what the staff should be doing?
 
Yes, but my question is what are you doing in a Gamestop in the first place?

Anyway, don't be ridiculous. It is entirely reasonable for them to ask you to leave, you're endangering, if only to a small extent, their livelihood.
 
Hello Tora

Tora said:
The Dutch Ghost said:
In the end he still decided to get Oblivion.

Hm... maybe he has plans or the infamous mod? :P
Or was he not _that_ young. :lol:

Meh, I think he was twelve or fourteen, and he probably bought it on the first impression he got from his friend's copy.

Well I had the luck not mentioning it anywhere near the store employees, they were busy helping others. :D
 
Tails said:
I don't know is that mentioned on RPGCodex (don't have account to check out) but well in Polish review from E3 at GOL on six page there is a little chatting between Shuck, GOL worker and Emil Pagliarulo from Bethesda (my shitty translation):

Shuck: Are you planing support modding community with giving them tools?
Emil: We still don't know that - we are discussing about this. This is what we of corse did in case of Oblivion, but it don't means that we do the same for Fallout. The truth is that making modding tools take many much time, the time we lose on game production. We see about that.
Shuck:Is this caution made by troubles, that you have by infamous Oblivion mod?
Emil: No. But the fact is that when you release from your hands tools to the modding, you lose much control of your game.

This. I really hope that they DO have mod tools similar to Oblivion with FO3, simply because the mod communities around Morrowind and Oblivion are pretty strong, and easily plugging in mods for any little thing is a big advantage. Especially for mods that improve the game, such as OOO for Oblivion to make it more difficult and lessen the effect of the level scaling, and whatever the hell that interface mod is called that should be installed 5 minutes after installing Oblivion. Mods don't just extend the life of a game, they can improve parts that the developers fuck up.

Definitely wouldn't deter me from buying FO3, but I think it would be better if it was included.

The Dutch Ghost said:
I suggested that he should try to game first, rent it at the library before buying it, and that "Bioshock" would be released next month.

They have games, and especially games as recent as Oblivion at your libraries?
Truly the Netherlands are a magical place.
 
Jiggly McNerdington said:
The Dutch Ghost said:
I suggested that he should try to game first, rent it at the library before buying it, and that "Bioshock" would be released next month.

They have games, and especially games as recent as Oblivion at your libraries?
Truly the Netherlands are a magical place.

Indeed, we're still in court with Disneyland to get them to take it out of their adds. :D

Surprisingly enough my library is pretty much up to date with games, not all of them but at least several of the latest releases.
 
That's really handy. Especially considering how bloated PC demos are getting. It'd be nice to swing by the library and see if a game's worth getting and hell, with most recent FPS you could play through in a few days anyway.

Only game rental places over here that I've heard of (Apart from online things like Gametap) are movie rental places like Blockbuster, and even then they only stock console games, and renting one of those costs $7-9ish. Pretty damn silly.
 
Jiggly McNerdington said:
That's really handy. Especially considering how bloated PC demos are getting. It'd be nice to swing by the library and see if a game's worth getting and hell, with most recent FPS you could play through in a few days anyway.

Indeed, I discovered that quite a lot of games you have to pay around 50 Euros for aren't really worth the money.
Renting a game costs only 2.50 for which you get to play it for a week.

Video stores also rent out console games here but I recently heard that because of some decision by game publishers they aren't allowed to rent out games anymore.
Probably in order to protect the publishers' interest and to make a few more extra sales.
 
Tora said:
xdarkyrex said:
Game previews are written for the lowest common denominator, you know that.
So we're not allowed to expect honest-and-true not for the general public reviews? What makes the game industry so much more special in that we are not allowed to expect a higher(any) level of professionalism? :roll:
I could've sworn I USED to see honest reviews that were easily understandable by even people who don't play games... hm...


Just for kicks, in 50 words or less, try to explain what fallout 3 will look like to an average person who hasn't played fallout 1 or 2.
 
xdarkyrex said:
Just for kicks, in 50 words or less, try to explain what fallout 3 will look like to an average person who hasn't played fallout 1 or 2.

Sure, if you'll direct me to a good 50-word or less preview of Fallout 3.
:roll:

I *could* say post-apocalyptic turn-based iso-view RPG with emphasis on table-top RPG style, has great humor and gamplay, and is not a FPS or action-RPG. I've explained it to people like this, and it works *shrug*
 
Tora said:
xdarkyrex said:
Just for kicks, in 50 words or less, try to explain what fallout 3 will look like to an average person who hasn't played fallout 1 or 2.

Sure, if you'll direct me to a good 50-word or less preview of Fallout 3.
:roll:

The point is that Oblivion would come up to limit how many words you use (lol, the ADD reader population is to blame for this), and present a visually similar graphics for someone who doesn't even know what a graphics engine is, right?

A business doesn't make money by making something only accessible to people who already know about fallout and the graphics engine. (thats a rule for all businesses regardless of industry :lol: )
 
xdarkyrex said:
The point is that Oblivion would come up to limit how many words you use (lol, the ADD reader population is to blame for this), and present a visually similar graphics for someone who doesn't even know what a graphics engine is, right?

A business doesn't make money by making something only accessible to people who already know about fallout and the graphics engine. (thats a rule for all businesses regardless of industry :lol: )

True, and I agree with you there, but as has been said, just because it sucks now, doesn't mean we have to accept it or not criticize it :P

Part of the problem is that the ADD reader population is also a result of the way the media does things now. If we can't expect in depth stuff, we'll skim and skip around. :cry:
 
Tora said:
Part of the problem is that the ADD reader population is also a result of the way the media does things now. If we can't expect in depth stuff, we'll skim and skip around. :cry:

Sadly, this is a natural problem with no logical solution.


Information needs to be concise and accessible. We don't have the time in the day to read encyclopedic reports on everything, and information has to be accessible to people who are new to subjects. This creates a natural need to balance length with complexity, and leads to a large amount of pseudo-accurate referencing. I'd consider it a social phenomena of the information age brought about by mass communication outlets.
 
xdarkyrex said:
Tora said:
Part of the problem is that the ADD reader population is also a result of the way the media does things now. If we can't expect in depth stuff, we'll skim and skip around. :cry:

Sadly, this is a natural problem with no logical solution.


Information needs to be concise and accessible. We don't have the time in the day to read encyclopedic reports on everything, and information has to be accessible to people who are new to subjects. This creates a natural need to balance length with complexity, and leads to a large amount of pseudo-accurate referencing. I'd consider it a social phenomena of the information age brought about by mass communication outlets.

We must revolt! viva la revolution!
:twisted:

Its a horrible trend. =/
The trailers for new movies, the short synopsis on the back of novels, or even the packaging on games these days seem less reflective of the actual material. :cry:
 
Its efficiency VS detail.

efficiency always wins.

Compression algorithms on computers works on the same concept.
 
I find this embarassing, on behalf of codex rather than anything else. These are carefully picked quotes from games preveiws we've already established are as biased as can be. They're not even developer quotes.

I really don't think this says much apart from declaring the codex to be as biased as the gaming previews they're taking quotes from.
 
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