Russia attacks Ukraine

Triggered lol. As if. I merely put in a comment knowing full well you would go ape shit. You love this ' Historical precedence ' phrase. Then after your brief ' Out of Africa ' explanation you ramble on about canines using a Semetic language. Even Bennet says that Zelensky is talking shit comparing Ukraine to the holocaust. I think the Nazis will become tired of the puppet and oust him take away some of the millions he has stashed but then blame Putin for having Dachas and hanging with capitalist feudal Oilygarths.


Your the one that said the area was historically Arab and settled originally by Palestinians so don't try to turn that on me. If you want to mistakenly associate me with calling you on your bullshit, 'going aoeshit', well have at it. Seems like someone's getting pissy for being wrong.

You then ramble something about Zelensky and Nazis. Whatevs man.
 
Find where I say the area was historically Arab ! You were easy to kick off go apeshit ( not aoeshit as you wrote lol ) The Zelensky being scolded by Bennet was to annoy you even further lol. You are a Zionist that was simple to spot. Thats why I had a ramble about Black Jews ,Rastasarians and Haille Sellasie. As you said mankind do tend to have a lil wander about.
 
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,on land that had been 95 percent non-Jewish prior to Zionist immigration.

Hence the whole history spiel.

Am I a Zionist simply for backing a traditional ally? I thought that was just smart politics. I mean that's the whole point of having and calling someone an ally correct?

I was thinking you were a Palestinian or some Putin apologist. Looks like we were both wrong. Thanks to your admission above, you apparently just like trolling.
 
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Where is the date when it was ok for one group to take it but then it became too soon for another group to take it back? It was 95% Arab before Zionist took it. but then it was 97.5% Zionist before the Arabs took it. It was 100% Philistine as one point but that was a really long time ago, so just get over it.
 
Hence the whole history spiel.

Am I a Zionist simply for backing a traditional ally? I thought that was just smart politics. I mean that's the whole point of having and calling someone an ally correct?

I was thinking you were a Palestinian or some Putin apologist. Looks like we were both wrong. Thanks to your admission above, you apparently just like trolling.
So the penny finally dropped lol. I thought something may dawn on you when I said the 6 day war lasting 9 months. Do you have multiple personality disorder? Looks like we were both wrong. Who are we ? Is that you and yourself or you and your ally/advisor. Or am I playing with semantics again. On Youtube I could wind Yanks up just by putting the hammer and sickle unicode symbol after a comment lol. The strange thing is I no longer get death threats as Marxism and antifa are trendy in USA.
 
I'm not sure what to call you. I will call you Sebastian if that's ok. I won't be a doubting Thomas but just incase you missed my birthplace ,place of residence when you searched for my name ' Billy' (which as you know is another term for William) I will tell you. I am from a small town in Bulgaria called Liverpool. OK I lied Seb Liverpool is an autonomous socialist state in Lancashire which is in the British Isles. Like all scousers I adore LFC and the Beadles. John Lenin and Paul Mc Carthy were brill songwriters. Paul Mc Carthy liked communist witchunts while John Lenin wanted hippy revolution and enjoyed shagging Japanese ladies.

So the penny finally dropped lol. I thought something may dawn on you when I said the 6 day war lasting 9 months. Do you have multiple personality disorder? Looks like we were both wrong. Who are we ? Is that you and yourself or you and your ally/advisor. Or am I playing with semantics again. On Youtube I could wind Yanks up just by putting the hammer and sickle unicode symbol after a comment lol. The strange thing is I no longer get death threats as Marxism and antifa are trendy in USA.

Reading through your posts is like having a fever dream dude, fuck. They all start off with one point that immediately takes like five different avenues of thought at once and none of them end up anywhere.
 
I don't know. Because I like political discussions?

That's it? I doubt it.
There could've been more fulfilling discussions of a political topic. A discussion on propaganda should be beneath you and me. As for, how would we type the number of details and inspect the pieces as we did like scientists eyeing through the lenses of a microscope?

The quality and text length of our posts were too much for something as the definition of propaganda. On how to resist its illusions and notice emotions (or tone as you put it) it may portray such as volatile, sympathetic, romantic, and vigorous for such examples. To grab the attention or lack of the spectator so the eyes may agree with the mouthpieces blindly without thought.

So if we can get this far over a discussion. Wouldn't it be plausible that maybe just maybe I already knew the definition and knew its effects on the mind? That's why I doubt it to be just.
I don't know. Because I like political discussions?

As Hassknecht pointed out

People need to realize that everything is propaganda and lies to some degree. Even those sources you like?
Especially those sources you like.
No, seriously. Everything contains lies on some level, nothing is neutral, everyone has a product, opinion, or ideology to sell. No fucking exceptions. The only thing you can do is get your shit from a dozen different sources and carefully assemble a turdburger of knowledge out of the kernels you found common in all said sources of shit.
And ain't nobody got time for that, so instead we just resign and accept the kind of sources aligned to our own ideology as the lesser evil instead of pelting all the whorenalists and politicians with rotten fruit like we should.

And Moth to an extent that I agree with.

.Even that doesn't necessarily work though. Look at just how many sources of media, from both sides of the perspective, were parroting those "Ghost of Kyiv" and "Snake Island Resistance" stories that turned out to be fake (entirely fake in Ghost of Kyiv case, mostly fake in Snake Island Resistance).

The primary problem is fog of war. Nobody has a complete picture on what's happening, not even Russia and Ukraine - and because war has always been waged on two fronts (the battlefield, and hearts and minds) you can almost guarantee that whatever information they DO release isn't guaranteed to be the full story.

Propaganda, as shown throughout history, can be a very powerful tool. Both the Germans and the Russians understood how vital it is to the war effort, and I'm not even talking about propaganda towards your own citizens, that's only a third of the fight. The most important propaganda is not that of which you feed to your own citizens, but that of which you feed to people outside the world.

Do you see how two people summed up what we were talking about? @Crni Vuk
These two posts are examples of why I question your reason for "liking political discussions" Since we displayed patience and intellect to go this far. I'm pretty sure I already know what propaganda is and its strategies. You also know as well, I'm confident it didn't have to go this far.
 
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Dude, I was ready to put this to rest. Why do I need a motivation here? I love having discussions. What's the point now?
 
Dude, I was ready to put this to rest. Why do I need motivation here? I love having discussions. What's the point now?
Hey Dude, in Introspect it was a good convo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ despite me having cognitions for it being slightly - moderately excessive. My apologies if you feel my last post is interrogative.

Why do I need a motivation here? I love having discussions. What's the point now
I had hoped if I asked for motivation you would tell me. I have a belief of "Ask, and it will be given to you. Seek, and you will find."
I don't have a standard for you to tell me your motivator nor is it a requirement from you.
 
Reading through your posts is like having a fever dream dude, fuck. They all start off with one point that immediately takes like five different avenues of thought at once and none of them end up anywhere.
It takes a lot of practice Sebastian Moth. It's like when I played online poker I had to fight off many ' anti scouse jokes ' with my rapist wit. The chat was far more spontaneous than these forums so I had to type insults at warp speed like a secretary on ' whizz '. I came to this site to ask for help and nice Mr proleterean did that. Mr Pyran helped immensely so I was impressed with the standard of old school helpful internet person which is a far cry from a support me on patreon, pay pal me, set up a crowdfunding page to give me money as I am an American with a huge doctors bill. Amen. Have a good un.
 
It takes a lot of practice Sebastian Moth. It's like when I played online poker I had to fight off many ' anti scouse jokes ' with my rapist wit. The chat was far more spontaneous than these forums so I had to type insults at warp speed like a secretary on ' whizz '. I came to this site to ask for help and nice Mr proleterean did that. Mr Pyran helped immensely so I was impressed with the standard of old school helpful internet person which is a far cry from a support me on patreon, pay pal me, set up a crowdfunding page to give me money as I am an American with a huge doctors bill. Amen. Have a good un.
It gets pretty old pretty quickly, though. Start spamming random Youtube videos everywhere and I'm gonna have flashbacks to Dopa at his worst.
 
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