Homer2137
Still Mildly Glowing
Russian military isn't exclusively Russian, ya know?
Russia attacks Ukraine
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well yea but don't count on that proposal to hold up.. put-in isn't holding up his end of the deal..
the deal was to cease airstrikes on ukra civilians.. and frankly Trump's patience is running on "vapours" right now, and is about to end, and that's probably pretty soon..
and either Put-in remorses and repents or the worild is probably gonna drown in nuclear flames like in 2077, just 52 years ahead of time.. just like baba vanga fortoled
Sn1p3r187
Carolinian Shaolin Monk
Crazy. NC is a swing state but it's a donor state. and SC aint said thank you once. and then i hear red counties in Illinois want to join Indiana. They do that and theyre just insuring Illinois goes completely blue for the foreseeable future and making them financially sound. Being that Indiana is very federally dependent
I'm worried I was sold a lie. I did say here before that I would admit it if it's true.
"over in three days" was a brave statement that no one bought, but c'mon we're going on months now. Isrealistan is still turning Otherstan into worse than Dresden to the point all the new concrete they grind down from the rubble will contain human bone fragments.... And Ukraine... ohhh YUUUUkraine. Does anyone actually believe the weapon makers defending the USA?
"over in three days" was a brave statement that no one bought, but c'mon we're going on months now. Isrealistan is still turning Otherstan into worse than Dresden to the point all the new concrete they grind down from the rubble will contain human bone fragments.... And Ukraine... ohhh YUUUUkraine. Does anyone actually believe the weapon makers defending the USA?
Morgan_
Duckerz
Russian bank anime mascot.
Why can't we have this.
The problem is in fact that russians are deliberately dropping suicide drones and missles directly on civilian teritory that's far away from any military activity.. in case of arabs they were chickensh1tting and hiding amongst hospitals and schools, and yet russians drop missles and drones on civilian homes places in no way connected to ukra army.
And the fact that in general more russians than ukrainians die in this war should be a factor for russians to forfiet the war isn't it?
Silica Pathways
First time out of the vault
It’s in the news that satellites are used in war, what year is this? 1965?
where did the fact come from that more Russians die than Ukrainians?
The problem is precisely in fact-checking.
Among the combatants on the Russian side, every fifth is a resident of Donbas or Crimea. Is he Russian or Ukrainian? I have already written earlier that about a fifth of Russia's military losses are former or current citizens of Ukraine.
Then are the losses among them the losses of Ukraine or Russia?
The Arabs hid in hospitals and schools, right? And the noble Ukrainian soldiers never hid with civilians so that children and women would die during the bombing?
Then here is an interesting video for you, filmed by the Nazis from the Azov regiment. They filmed it themselves, not Russian propaganda. Go ahead, defend these freaks, tell them that they were protecting children, and not hiding behind them.
Ukraine: Population drops by 10 million since Russia invaded in 2014, UNFPA reports
A deepening demographic crisis is roiling Ukraine, exacerbated by Russia’s full-scale invasion, the UN sexual and reproductive health agency, UNFPA, said on Tuesday, underscoring an urgent need for comprehensive recovery strategies focused on human capital and socioeconomic reform.news.un.org
The population of Ukraine has decreased by 10 million. The number of war victims among the Ukrainian civilian population is 13,000. Is evil, vile Russia deliberately bombing civilians? Logic? Will Trump change anything? Will he give more Patriot air defense?
This is a manipulation as well.. the 10mil comes from counting emigrants as well ~5,3mil resides in Poland hiding from the war..
The ukrainians fighting for russia count as russian casualties, they chose themselves..(or did they.. )
It's no crime to go to a bomb shelter with civilians during bombing alert. This was likely an improvised one in a cellar.
What i had in mind is russia strikes civilian homes like those grand plate houseblocks..
I've seen those wrecked on tv.. u claim they were some secret hideout of ukra military?!
There's nothing new in bombing hospitals and schools it happens everywhere, yet civilian homes only get bombed in israEL, since those bastards commit deliberate genocide, yet Soviet union was also known for deliberate genocides, so what am i complaining about right?
Oof that totally not propaganda video of "Russians" . . . "training???" Was hard to watch. If that is what Russia really is sending to the front after at most two weeks of basic, then maybe their casualties are that high.
I can't help but wonder if this level of dumbassery actually exists. But maybe I shouldn't be surprised.
Let me give y'all an example of why this doesn't make any fucking sense to me:
There are more videos of these drone attacks than I care to watch, but some of these bodacious drones have the audacity to fly right into the back of a troop transport with a bunch of boot recruits, armed with rifles, and they are so dumb the last we see of them is a bunch of kids with confused looks on their faces before the static appears.
Not one person fires at drone bomb.
Not one of those kids were briefed about how both sides of this conflict are involved in a drone battlescape?
No general on either side could figure out how to deter drones from detonating inside of vehicles? Those shitty drones which are strapped with a soviet-era bomb/mortar and the entire weapon cost ~ a hundred USD?
Not a single general over there knows that 12ga bird shot exists?
It's so dumb apparently, that the grunts are using improvised BBs and pouring them down their barrels in an effort to make shotguns out of AKs. Cool Jerry rig there, experienced gun expert.
They could have given at least one crew member a shotgun to keep handy at all times for close encounters but . . .
A few conclusions come to mind, and fuck me I have none that I think are better than others:
1: These people are really that stupid.
2: The videos are faked; the numbers are fudged for propaganda.
3: The videos are real, so are the numbers, and both sides are sending people to the front to a meat grinder because reasons.
4: ...
5: Profit
I can't help but wonder if this level of dumbassery actually exists. But maybe I shouldn't be surprised.
Let me give y'all an example of why this doesn't make any fucking sense to me:
There are more videos of these drone attacks than I care to watch, but some of these bodacious drones have the audacity to fly right into the back of a troop transport with a bunch of boot recruits, armed with rifles, and they are so dumb the last we see of them is a bunch of kids with confused looks on their faces before the static appears.
Not one person fires at drone bomb.
Not one of those kids were briefed about how both sides of this conflict are involved in a drone battlescape?
No general on either side could figure out how to deter drones from detonating inside of vehicles? Those shitty drones which are strapped with a soviet-era bomb/mortar and the entire weapon cost ~ a hundred USD?
Not a single general over there knows that 12ga bird shot exists?
It's so dumb apparently, that the grunts are using improvised BBs and pouring them down their barrels in an effort to make shotguns out of AKs. Cool Jerry rig there, experienced gun expert.
They could have given at least one crew member a shotgun to keep handy at all times for close encounters but . . .
A few conclusions come to mind, and fuck me I have none that I think are better than others:
1: These people are really that stupid.
2: The videos are faked; the numbers are fudged for propaganda.
3: The videos are real, so are the numbers, and both sides are sending people to the front to a meat grinder because reasons.
4: ...
5: Profit
So when Russia finnally wrecks Ukraine, and still won't satiate Russia's apetite, and reaches out for even more terrirtory, you're still going to be ok with it, because your local media said there are nazis here and there? Why can't you people see that Your leader wants to start ww III, currently Trump is just dazed with his buffonade beliving he's cabable to convince Putin with his babbling, yet when Trump realizes he won't do jack this way, it's goigng to be too late, it's not as if pentagon doesn't have a word to say anything about it.. when Putin mooves for "a russia between atlantic and pacific", ruining America's one of few moderately welthy clients for Amercia's products ( Europe ), the pentagon is going to have to say something about it... and Trump will start singing high pitch voice as Pentagon grabs his balls and starts squeezing hard.. same way it went with Obama and Beiden.. they both wanted to end wars peacefully, and force LPG+++ propaganda in other countries.. it all ended in shit when pentagon grabbed their balls and said: Sing the way we tell you or your balls will turn into an omelett... and we all know how it went.. even Biden's stalling of our presisdent that my country is going to suffer for not accepting LPG+++ comunities turned to nothing, and he soon became closest pals with Mr.Duda, it's because pentagon saw it usefull to do biusness with us, not Beiden.. so in the end Biden had to shove his rainbow ideas down his ass and sing as pentagon told him to..
when Pentagon sees things are going too far, they are going to grab Trump by the balls as well.. and if he'd say he refuse? they'll say: well... look what hapened to President Kennedy, he opposed us too, do you want to end up like him? and all the big balls suddenly begin to shrink and soften...
I'm not autistic, at lest not like that..
Anyways.. Russia Selflessly gave out Crimea to Ukraine few years back before a major revolt and shift in leadership in Ukraine.. No one is allowed to hand out something willingly sayigng "Here It's yours", and later demand that back saying "fuck off it's mine".. No grown Up does that.. and similarily no world leader should do this.. it's #1 childish, and #2 it's wrong... When You say "A" you've got to live with the consequences of it, it's not like you can say ok call it back, it never happened.. I mean You could if the other side agrees to the terms, if not You just got to live with the consequences.. it only does not work this way if the other side is a dirty double crosser.. which Your media are working hard to proove Ukrainians are like that, to justify Russia's actions.. but it isn't the case, the whole world sees this except Russia.. and this my friend, is what puts whole of Russia ni a bad light, in the eyes of the rest of the world ( with the exception of totalitarian regimes like China and North Korea, who also don't see Russia's fault here).. this should make You think about the reality a bit more, why is it so.. and perhaps one day You'll figure it out (or maybe not)..
Personally I don't think, that no amount of jaw flapping is going to ever convince any zealot from ceasing to follow it's leader, so I'm going to skip preaching sanity into You, it's like convincing Radscorpion to part with it's tail, or asking Vault City to give One anything.. no amount of speech is going to do that..
Morgan_
Duckerz
WW3 over Ukraine would be kind of surprising imo. Ukraine will simply lose land. The only thing new about what Russia is doing is that they're land grabbing in europe. China has done this for awhile in their neck of the woods. Israel has been doing it for decades and is currently doing it.
Maybe one day we will get ww3 but probably not over Ukraine? American leadership is schizophrenic at the moment and can't make up it's mind and Europe is continuing on with the original wrapons shipments plan. No troop commitments.
People did /are saying those would bring global conflict aren't they?
You shouldn't be in favor of either American or Russian invasions. Especially when one of these is seizing land. Although, America supports land grabs by proxy with Israel I have to admit.
Maybe one day we will get ww3 but probably not over Ukraine? American leadership is schizophrenic at the moment and can't make up it's mind and Europe is continuing on with the original wrapons shipments plan. No troop commitments.
People did /are saying those would bring global conflict aren't they?
You shouldn't be in favor of either American or Russian invasions. Especially when one of these is seizing land. Although, America supports land grabs by proxy with Israel I have to admit.
Yeah, cause Russia would lose.
TheGM
The voice of reason
Well WW1 started over Serbia, so massive globe spanning wars over a nothing country aren't unheard of.
You hate nukes because you fear MAD and mass death.
I hate them because they prevent us from fighting peer-to-peer wars.
We're not the same.
I hate them because they prevent us from fighting peer-to-peer wars.
We're not the same.
Sn1p3r187
Carolinian Shaolin Monk
Based. I mean at least keep the battlefield even.
Lol shotguns not effective vs a plastic drone. I've been shooting since I was 11, I'm 40 now. You seem to not understand the purpose of a shotgun. It's designed to be fired and still make hits with a shaky hand, whether it's shaking from the surprise bird flushed by a dog 10 feet away, or you have a home invader entering your house, or bouncing around in a truck while a drone that moves about as fast as a pheasant or skeet is flying towards you at an even trajectory. In some states it's legal to shoot game from a moving vehicle and there are tons of redneck videos of them on youtube. So let's get into the over-explanation:
As you can see, the shot is easier for a hit the further out the drone is. Just one pellet of #6 or #12 bird shot is enough to disable a drone, they're vitals are all over. Military shotguns typically hold at least 6 shells and are semi auto so no pumping needed. Anyone that can shoulder a rifle can become a decent shot after proper instruction at a range within one lesson.
253 pellets/shell in #12. 48 in #6. That's a lot of lead in the air. But hey, what do I know from experience? I guess there is some special 150,000USD/unit paint munition that paints drones really good, well outside the blast radius of whatever ordinance it's carrying. If that doesn't work, we could try using harsh language and hurling that at the drones.
As you can see, the shot is easier for a hit the further out the drone is. Just one pellet of #6 or #12 bird shot is enough to disable a drone, they're vitals are all over. Military shotguns typically hold at least 6 shells and are semi auto so no pumping needed. Anyone that can shoulder a rifle can become a decent shot after proper instruction at a range within one lesson.
253 pellets/shell in #12. 48 in #6. That's a lot of lead in the air. But hey, what do I know from experience? I guess there is some special 150,000USD/unit paint munition that paints drones really good, well outside the blast radius of whatever ordinance it's carrying. If that doesn't work, we could try using harsh language and hurling that at the drones.
Morgan_
Duckerz
European powers slicing up eachothers land through military action is a new thing since WW2. That was supposed to be the end of land grabs, or more realistically, the begining of the end of land grabs. Why are you including '91 in that? That isn't the same thing.
Considering what happened in '91 this attitude of "loss" makes me wonder if it applies to other countries other than Ukraine
