Chancellor Kremlin said:
In my book both sides are terrorists. The only reason Palestine isn't or Hamas isn't considered an agressor or a bellingerent nation is because it indeed is not a nation, and Israel makes sure it will stay that way.
The homeless, boundaryless, sovreigntyless and powerless will always be branded the terrorists. When, has a state, ever been labelled a terrorist, even if their actions sometimes mimic those of their so called 'terrorist' enemies?
Aside from the fact that I used 'the terrorist' and not 'one of the terrorists' purposefully, Hamas isn't called a terrorist group because they aren't a nation. They're called a terrorist group because they use terror as a weapon, and purposefully target civilians. Which is not something you can honestly accuse Israel of doing.
In that sense, Israel certainly isn't a terrorist nation, even though it is an aggressor.
Chancellor Kremlin said:
But we are dealing with semantics here.
Why do people always say that it's just semantics, as if the meaning of what you are saying isn't important?
Sleek said:
What the hell were the future Israeli citizens doing migrating to someone's homeland from all over the world and announcing an independent nation though ? Of course conflict is inevitable if that happens. Especially when they start taking lands from the natives.
Hah! Calling anyone the 'natives' of possibly the most hotly contested piece of land in the history of the world is rather ludicrous.
You're also completely skipping the British mandate and the support of both the League of Nations and later the United Nations for a Jewish State.
The Arabs never accepted this situation, and refused to adhere to the UN decision.
The Jews had also been migrating to the area for at least 100 years before the Israeli state was established.
Now, this is most definitely a shitty situation for the Arabs, but to see this is a full-on aggressive invasion is too much.
Sleek said:
That's considered an invasion, and since when did resistance to an invasion on your homeland defined as terrorism ? 'Terrorism' is when you search people's home one by one.. terrorize the live out of a mother and her children.. because you suspect there is a weapon cache in the village. That's terrorism.
Terrorism is not when you are searching people's homes for a weapon cache, or when you invade a country (which, again, is not what Israel did). It's when you fire rockets at civilian targets because you want to achieve your goal through terror and killing civilians. This is not what Israel is doing.
At most, Israel is fighting a war against all Palestinians, yet actions over the past few years as Israel has made clear overtures toward sustained peace (giving up the Gaza strip, for instance) and Hamas has been the one who scoffed at that speak against even that judgement.
Sleek said:
I couldn't gather all Somalian asylum seekers in the UK to Bath and declare a new independent nation could I ? The situation would've been outrageous, chaotic and pretty much shitey all over.
No, but the UN certainly could.