Shadow of the President Prevents Air Travel
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Blakut said:
Putin has little to be happy about. This is a big blow against Russia's friendship with its European neighbours.
AskWazzup said:
No, he's not, he's pro-Poland and pro-Europe. Also, he's not the president, merely a temporary replacement, according to our Constitution.
This is a tragedy that comes at a very convenient time for the ruling party. The Constitution gives the right to nominate chiefs of departments to the Premier and the President, both of which are PO now.
It's interesting. Might be (quite possibly) the biggest political takeover in the history of the Third Republic done without a single shot or threat.
Tagaziel said:
Huh?
iii said:No, he is leading the investigation of the crash.Blakut said:Putin must be having a party.
Actually come to think of it, this is kind of weird. As far as I know Sergei Shoigu has already been dispatched, and it's within his competency, not Putin's.
Yeah, but in thinking with the ol' authoritarian regime, if the big boss ain't behind it, everybody's gonna think we're a bunch of sissies. So plane crash, dam ruptures or child disappears, if it is high profile, the leader's gotta be leading the investigation. That's what happens when you don't have anyone to trust in your state apparatus OR when you just gotta rule everything, cause the god damn democratic institutions aren't gonna lead themselves.
I don't think they needed that much attention. Takeovers can be done without bloodshed nowadays, in Europe.
Like BN said, Russia doesn't stand to gain much from this.
Loxley said:
Presidential election was coming up anyway, but this does a LOT of turmoil for the upcoming race.
Ironically, the late President and the interim acting president Komorowski were to face off in the election. Also, the late President has a twin brother, who is also a politician for that wing. And a left-wing candidate is deceased.
Looks like a mulligan to me.
Brother None said:
For start, the acting president, who is from the Civic Platform party, gets to name the new president of the central bank, and that's just the beginning.
Yeah but I don't get it. Tagaziel makes it sound as if it were an intentional political takeover, which is weird, and as if it was bloodless, which is even weirder.
Brother None said:
The authority to nominate officials (such as the aforementioned president of the National Bank of Poland, a position of immense importance to the economy) typically lies with either the Premier or the President. As Siley mentioned, with Kaczynski dead, the Civic Platform can now install whomever they need at key positions in the administrative and military branches of the country.
I'm not saying this was intentional, though. It sounds like something ripped straight out of a Tom Clancy novel, but is far too convenient for PO to be deliberately planned.
It's simply a very tragic event that gives the ruling party great control over the country. Key figures from PiS (opposition) and presidential candidate for SLD were also killed in the crash, so for all intents and purposes, PO now has almost complete control over Poland.
Oh hey, look, a Lithuanian who is paranoid about Russia. How...predictable. Poor Lithuania, so innocent sitting next to a pure evil neighbour. It's a miracle they haven't imploded yet.
Sorry, AskWazzup, but if I want a serious analysis of the political balance of the former SU and CIS-states, the last person I'd ask is a Lithuanian. Or a Russian.
Sorry, AskWazzup, but if I want a serious analysis of the political balance of the former SU and CIS-states, the last person I'd ask is a Lithuanian. Or a Russian.
thing is that not even the Russians know what the Russians want. But I guess thats not that much different to other nations actualy.
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Xellos said:
I do. With all their flaws, they are the best chance Poland has. What else, former commies? Right wing nuts? Pseudo-patriotic nationalist scum?
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Sorry to butt in (lol "butt") but I have to ask. I'm sure there are some Poles here (lol "poles"), do some of them think that Russia did this on purpose? I'm just curious. Anything is possible, if you ask me so I won't judge.
Propably are, but none are spouting their insanity publicly.
What would Russia do anyways? Make trees that become bigger on demand?
What would Russia do anyways? Make trees that become bigger on demand?
Brother None said:
Ask a Ukrainian maybe?
This one tends to mostly agree with the Paranoid Lithuanian. But maybe I'm even more paranoid. We're closer to Georgia, after all.I wonder how long it is before everyone goes "oh noes the Russians shot it down!" Not that this isn't a possibility... If there's a good-sounding conspiracy theory, I might even believe it. The Russian gov't is ebil, after all
Public said:
-Most of the military commanding staff died along with president, so they could gain temporary advantage in case of military conflict(not that they haven't got one already).
-Most of the opposition in regards to PO(at least most of their counting figures) died, so PO(civic platform) suddenly became the only strong political party in Poland, and they are much more "pro-russia" than PiS is.
Those are the only profits from Russia's pov that I can think of.
Tagaziel said:
They could've sabotaged the plane when it was serviced in Russia(not too long ago), and than closed the crash site swiftly to take care of evidence.
Possible? Maybe, but still it's unbelivable IMO.
guys ... there is really not much if any advantage Russia could really gain from that crash. There will be probably a lot of confusion at the moment and it will take poland time to get that sorted out but that is nothing that will help Russia. And even new politians will probably not do much different compared to the former gouvernement regarding Russia.