Smoking marijuana, does not lead to lung cancer!

[c0ldst33ltrs4u]

a friend died, and a cousin of mine was a heroin addicted (and I say was as she cleaned her act up).

I thought so... I'm sorry to hear that. I know how hard it is to see someone you care for slowly die out. My grandfather was paralysed during the last two years of his life and during the last month he refused to eat, it was like he had no more fight left in him, and he was melting away under our very eyes. We all knew that the end is inevitable but we refused to accept it... So I have at least an idea of what you feel and respect that...
As for the choice to take refuge in drugs: we spend a good portion of our lives trying to get away from life, it's bad aspects to be more precise, games, movies, even this forum, they are all ways to get away from it all... of course some means of escape have a higher price tag attached...
I for one feel sorry for the people who turn to drugs and booze to escape from their problems because their lives must really suck if they chose to go down that road... And a person in that position needs help, support and attention. Criticism will only make them go even farther down the slope, maybe even beyond the point of no return...

Yes, I realise this also, and I am definitely not advocating that drug users/abusers should all be shunned by non-recreational drug users, but I had to get it out, and I thank you for not ripping into me

It's probably for the best that you managed to get it out; burdens like this one are often too much for one to carry alone, that's why it's good to have friends you can open up to. In time, with the help of our loved ones we can work out problems like these... time heals a lot of things.

And don't even mention the ripping into you thing... that would have been the most retard thing to do...
Cheers!

 

[Duckman]

I know how hard it is to see someone you care for slowly die out. My grandfather was paralysed during the last two years of his life and during the last month he refused to eat, it was like he had no more fight left in him, and he was melting away under our very eyes.

I'm sorry to hear that man. Similar to my grandfather, who had asbestosis from working with asbestos for most of his life. Eventually he just seemed to fade, and then one day he died, at home. Like your grandfather, in the last few months, I think he saw that the end was near and just kind of went really quiet and didn't speak very much.

As for the choice to take refuge in drugs: we spend a good portion of our lives trying to get away from life, it's bad aspects to be more precise, games, movies, even this forum, they are all ways to get away from it all...

We sure do try to get away from life through things like games and such, but these things, unlike drugs, can't really have any dire effects on ones body or emotions.

of course some means of escape have a higher price tag attached...

Both in physical money terms, and the withdrawals/lows that the drugs do to the body.

I for one feel sorry for the people who turn to drugs and booze to escape from their problems because their lives must really suck if they chose to go down that road...

Well, I really feel for those who have turned to drugs, don't get me wrong, but you have to look at their character and see why they did. They obviously didn't have enough confidence, self esteem or anything else to try and pull themselves out of a 'rut', but rather they bought themselves into a deeper hole that they will, probably, never get out of.

And a person in that position needs help, support and attention.

Definitely. It may sounds like I'm giving these people a hard time, but seriously, they got themselves into, no matter the reason, and no one but themselves can truly get themselves out of the circle.

Criticism will only make them go even farther down the slope, maybe even beyond the point of no return...

Hmm, this may be true, but my cousin seemed to have pulled herself out of her habit due to the way people saw her and her addiction. She was really getting sick as well, but criticism may help some people.

And don't even mention the ripping into you thing... that would have been the most retard thing to do...

Heh, cheers mate. I just feel strongly, and I can't help it 8)

 

[alec]

I only drink because I like getting drunk and I only do drugs because I like getting stoned/high. I also like doing drugs before I have sex because they make the experience more fulfilling.

I've got no problems whatsoever that I want to escape from, though.



What?

Being bored is not a problem. It's the human condition.

 

[Duckman]

Is that just you Alec, or is that the paranoia caused by your drug problem?

 

[Sander]

No, but sure they may use these things to escape from reality, but they can't make people believe something they are not and can't destroy their lives.

EDIT: that cousin of mine had a huge heroin problem, and she just seriously messed herself up. I know its not MJ, but I mean it is still a drug used for the same purpose.

...
Marijuana and Heroin are two utterly and completely different things. I know several people who use marijuana on an almost daily basis, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with them. heroin is a different matter, in that it *is* physically addictive and destructive, it's a lot more expensive and also forces the user to use more and more, since their body builds up a resistance.
Marijuana, on the other hand, is not destructive, not addictive and really not that expensive. Alcohol is, basically, many times worse as a drug, as is smoking.

The issue with 'escaping from life' isn't all that present with marijuana either. It intoxicates you for up to two or three hours, no more, so it's much more a recreational drug you can use with friends or to get a mellow feeling than to escape from reality because reality sucks.

 

[alec]

So what you're really saying, Sander, is that you're a pothead, isn't it? You love the herb, eh? Right? Am I right or what?

Hehehe. Wicked, bro!

 

[Muhol]

Marihuana makes u stupid , maybe u don call it stupidity but since i started smoking i have to use calculat0r all the time and u do lots of more mistakes than usually .. And it takes lots of money ... but what doesnt ? I i think alcohol is worse than weed .. but drugs are bad , dont smoke , never laugh and ull have a nice life !! Go On !!

 

[DirtyDreamDesigner]

Drugs make your posts incoherent and hard to read too ?

 

[Sander]

Then don't try to assignments when stoned. Sheesh.
Marijuana doesn't make you stupid, it only makes your thinking disconnected and slower *when stoned*.

 

[Muhol]

When stoned or not soned i feel dumb like a dumb person ... And yes , u forget thinGs.. all the time .

 

[Loxley]

Ok, what do you call an air overdose?

Diving sickness.

Also too much oksygen in the air cn be lethal, i don't remember the percentage.

 

[SuAside]

Ok, what do you call an air overdose?

Diving sickness.

Also too much oksygen in the air cn be lethal, i don't remember the percentage.

hyperoxia, you mean ?

diving sickness is different from just hyperoxia.

A friend of mine died under tragic circumstances after prolonged use of marijuana, and since then, I really felt strongly about it.

yar, i bet he didn't really need MJ to help em die though.

i've had a friend die too. but i dont blame it on the drugs. you can blame alcohol, MJ, coke, hero,... all you want, but in the end it's the personality thats the cause, not the drugs.

and yes, it's hard to loose a friend (but it was even harder to see him slip. everyone knew it was going to happen, but we were powerless).

Sure, have one hit to try it and see what effects it has, but prolonged use to just escape, I mean shit, is life that fucked up?

hmz
alcohol? valium? both socially accepted btw.

no?

how about games then? especially RPG's we like so much. what are they? they're escapes out of our overly boring lives afaik.

No, I personally have not been in a situation where I need to turn to drugs, but I have definitely had my time where things just seem they are going to crush me, emotionally.

no one 'needs' to 'turn to drugs'. they offer no solutions. if you start using under negative circumstances, you're gonna wipe out.

pretty obvious really...

Yes, I realise this also, and I am definitely not advocating that drug users/abusers should all be shunned by non-recreational drug users, but I had to get it out, and I thank you for not ripping into me

well, while i'm currently clean (3 years & counting), i was an MJ addict for years & years. i dont really dig the idea that all users "definitely need to be arse raped".

addicted or not, drugs dont destroy you just like that... it's kinda like the stuff the NRA keeps saying: guns dont kill, people do.

No, but sure they may use these things to escape from reality, but they can't make people believe something they are not and can't destroy their lives.

*snip*

We sure do try to get away from life through things like games and such, but these things, unlike drugs, can't really have any dire effects on ones body or emotions.

oh really?

game addicts that dont exit their room anymore. gamers that die of starvation when playing non-stop. bookworms that have grown so fond of books they think social interaction is a waste of time. retards jumping off buildings with a feather in their hand, thinking they can cast slow fall & slowly drift to the side walk unhurt. you know enough examples of this yourself, why deny it?

Well, I really feel for those who have turned to drugs, don't get me wrong,

but you still feel they "definitely need to be arse raped"? how nice.

look, if you're a fag you meant that in a good way, but i think many of us do take offense.

Well, I really feel for those who have turned to drugs, don't get me wrong, but you have to look at their character and see why they did. They obviously didn't have enough confidence, self esteem or anything else to try and pull themselves out of a 'rut', but rather they bought themselves into a deeper hole that they will, probably, never get out of.

and why exactly do you believe 'turn to drugs' to 'pull themselves out of a 'rut''. in my personal experience, the people with problems are the obvious druggies, but the overwhelming majority of users do not have the same motivation.

the majority also exhibits no stereotype drawbacks from drugs. (but i'm not saying it's not dangerous or a possible problem, dont get me wrong)

I also like doing drugs before I have sex because they make the experience more fulfilling.

care to share?

i have yet to find a drug that actually makes the experience better.

MJ numbs you, coke makes you weaker and speed prevents you from really enjoying it afaik. (although i hear coke is heaven for a girl)

havent tried to have sex on LSD & other stuff yet. dont really plan to, but please do share, alec

Marijuana, on the other hand, is not destructive, not addictive and really not that expensive. Alcohol is, basically, many times worse as a drug, as is smoking.

i wouldn't call MJ 'not addictive' (but true, it's a lot less than hero).
and heavy use of MJ is very expensive, trust me, i know :p

Marihuana makes u stupid , maybe u don call it stupidity but since i started smoking i have to use calculat0r all the time and u do lots of more mistakes than usually ..

When stoned or not soned i feel dumb like a dumb person ... And yes , u forget thinGs.. all the time .

you really shouldnt do drugs at work or school, dude...

and if you mean that the problem is still there even if you didnt light one up, than you really should quit.

 

[Sander]

i wouldn't call MJ 'not addictive' (but true, it's a lot less than hero).
and heavy use of MJ is very expensive, trust me, i know :p

It's not physically addictive, though.
And not anywhere near as expensive as heavy use of almost any other drug.

 

[PhredBean]

Marijuana doesn't make you stupid, it only makes your thinking disconnected and slower *when stoned*.

Ok, so it makes you temporarily retarded then. That's much better.

 

[Sander]

Ok, so it makes you temporarily retarded then. That's much better.

Ugh. It doesn't matter when stoned, because it's part of the effect. It doesn't make you retarded either, it makes you a wee bit slower. In a happy way. Unlike, say, alcohol which makes you slower and more aggressive.
Hmmmm.....sweet, sweet alcohol.

 

[SuAside]

Ok, so it makes you temporarily retarded then. That's much better.

for me, MJ has never diminished any of my mental capacities when stoned... i've made homework, tests and even exams while stoned out of my skull, so i dont see the relation.

while MJ has very different effects on different people, i doubt it makes anyone retarded...

even so, i've done one of those driver tests that were so popular. on sober, one high, one drunk. i drove BETTER when high... it slows reaction a bit, but it also makes you chill the fuck out. you aren't in a hurry to get anywhere so enjoy the ride.

 

[alec]

I also like doing drugs before I have sex because they make the experience more fulfilling.

care to share?

i have yet to find a drug that actually makes the experience better.

MJ numbs you, coke makes you weaker and speed prevents you from really enjoying it afaik. (although i hear coke is heaven for a girl)

havent tried to have sex on LSD & other stuff yet. dont really plan to, but please do share, alec

Pot works quite well, especially if I haven't used it for a while. It makes me get a really hard boner, one that just won't go away for quite a while and it takes longer to cum which is nice 'cause I get to fuck longer. My girlfriend enjoys it as well. She says it makes her really horny and dirty which is always good when one is about to have sex.

E. Simple and very effective fuck drug. I'm not even going to try to describe the sensation one get's from fucking on E. It's an alien experience. A shame one tends to forget whom one fucked with.

Coke. Way better than speed, 'cause speed makes your dick shrink until it's the size of your little toe. The best sex I had was on coke. My girlfriend says the same thing. It makes an orgasm feel like an esoteric experience (whatever that means).

My girlfriend uses 'poppers' when I fuck her up the arse. She says it makes her feel like a cheap sut. I guess that's positive when you're horny.

Never fuck when you're drunk, but I guess you already know that. It makes you feel stupid. For a variety of reasons.

 

[SuAside]

Pot works quite well, especially if I haven't used it for a while. It makes me get a really hard boner, one that just won't go away for quite a while and it takes longer to cum which is nice 'cause I get to fuck longer.

meh, pot makes you less sensitive. i get a certain numbness, but it's true that prolongues the experience, but not necessarily makes it better imo.

E. Simple and very effective fuck drug. I'm not even going to try to describe the sensation one get's from fucking on E. It's an alien experience. A shame one tends to forget whom one fucked with.

how could i forget... yes E. well, the name says it all i guess. never tried it though.

Coke. Way better than speed, 'cause speed makes your dick shrink until it's the size of your little toe. The best sex I had was on coke.

dunno, made me less firm than usual. but yeah, the experience itself is hard to describe.

Never fuck when you're drunk, but I guess you already know that. It makes you feel stupid. For a variety of reasons.

haha, true, but it depends. sometimes you just have to make due :p

 

[Cimmerian Nights]

What`s all this `escaping reality` schwag? It`s weed - it makes you appreciate Pink Floyd more and giggle at cartoons. What kind of hydroponic skunk buds make you think what you`re experiencing isn`t reality? And how much is a quarter?

 

[Sander]

That's true, it has jack shit to do with escaping reality. But, like alcohol, it makes watching Futurama even more interesting.

Also, sex on alcohol does work well. As long as it isn't that much alcohol that you fall asleep with your clothes on.