So what lore has Bethesda done gone fucked up?

Legendary enemies...bah more like common bullet sponges. There should've only been one legendary enemy for each enemy type besides robots and synths. Put in hard to find places because legendary enemies should come from "legends" about how a guy stuck a knife through the eye and eye socket of a [insert name of legendary enemy] escaping within an inch of their life being forced to amputate an arm and being torn up in the process of attempting to slay the beast.
Instead we get generic bullet sponge enemy look alikes of the same enemy with "Legendary" slapped in front of their name. They stole that from Borderlands 2 of course.
 
Bethesda, if you're reading this, take this to heart.

"Learning from other's mistakes" is the art of learning how to not make that mistake again, not learning to use that mistake over and over again.
 
ZigzagPX4 said:
Bethesda, if you're reading this, take this to heart.

"Learning from other's mistakes" is the art of learning how to not make that mistake again, not learning to use that mistake over and over again.
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I think the full quote goes... 'Learning from other's mistake so we can use them again and again in our games.'
 
Question, is it implied that the oil field in the pacific ocean is the last accessible oil in the world? or just the ocean? If not then where else are people getting oil? If it is, FO 4 has even more problems. Also do Vertibirds require oil to function?
 
Shade04rek said:
Question, is it implied that the oil field in the pacific ocean is the last accessible oil in the world? or just the ocean? If not then where else are people getting oil? If it is, FO 4 has even more problems. Also do Vertibirds require oil to function?
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I don't think it is, but it's implied as being very important. A kind of last breath thing.
 
So I found this on the Fallout wiki http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Sea_of_Tranquility_Conflict this point's to a moon DLC, an alien DLC or an Old World Blues rip off but no matter what it turns out to be, this solidifys FO4 as being the Saints Row 3 of the franchise, there's no coming back from this, from now on Fallout is all about Kids in fridges and aliens and if that isn't a lore fuck up I don't know what is.
 
Izak said:
So I found this on the Fallout wiki http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Sea_of_Tranquility_Conflict this point's to a moon DLC, an alien DLC or an Old World Blues rip off but no matter what it turns out to be, this solidifys FO4 as being the Saints Row 3 of the franchise, there's no coming back from this, from now on Fallout is all about Kids in fridges and aliens and if that isn't a lore fuck up I don't know what is.
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... I doubt they even had the tech to do proper moon battles, still stupid.
 
Well, I wonder if they're going to be able to succeed their own sibling subsidiaries under Zenimax. MachineGames, to be exact.

Wolfenstein: The New Order already went through blasting space Nazis on the Moon, and they made it fun. I doubt Bethesda will produce an equal experience, and even if they do, they're not using a unique idea. A studio working under the same publisher already did it, meaning they're just ripping off ideas from their next door neighbours in development. Good job, Bethesda.

Actually... what has Bethesda Game Studios done that ANY of the studios alongside them under Bethsoft haven't already done better? Forget succeeding other developers, can they even succeed the subsidiaries working within the same company? *sigh*
 
ZigzagPX4 said:
Actually... what has Bethesda Game Studios done that ANY of the studios alongside them under Bethsoft haven't already done better? Forget succeeding other developers, can they even succeed the subsidiaries working within the same company? *sigh*
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I've had this thought myself a few times, but they must be doing something right. Their fanbase at large may not care about proper storytelling or half-decent writing, but I'm sure that if the games weren't good in some way they wouldn't be as popular as they are.

Dr Fallout said:
... I doubt they even had the tech to do proper moon battles, still stupid.
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I thought the mural was to commemorate the Space Race, or at the very least a very minor conflict; then again, I can't for the life of me think of any other reason why the astronaut would be holding a weapon.

Realistically, it's probably going to feature in a DLC; Bethesda seems the think that because Fallout is a 'sci-fi game', then they can just shove whatever other sci-fi elements they can think of.

Tonal consistency and restraint are for the weak-minded and weak-willed.
 
Izak said:
So I found this on the Fallout wiki http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Sea_of_Tranquility_Conflict this point's to a moon DLC, an alien DLC or an Old World Blues rip off but no matter what it turns out to be, this solidifys FO4 as being the Saints Row 3 of the franchise, there's no coming back from this, from now on Fallout is all about Kids in fridges and aliens and if that isn't a lore fuck up I don't know what is.
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They seem to be pointing to a space DLC, this was the holotape on the first mission with Danse.

 
Izak said:
So I found this on the Fallout wiki http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Sea_of_Tranquility_Conflict this point's to a moon DLC, an alien DLC or an Old World Blues rip off but no matter what it turns out to be, this solidifys FO4 as being the Saints Row 3 of the franchise, there's no coming back from this, from now on Fallout is all about Kids in fridges and aliens and if that isn't a lore fuck up I don't know what is.
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I was actually the one who put the delete tag on that page. I've been working to get it deleted as there is no evidence supporting the notion that a battle occurred. The mural could just depict the sacrafices of a space crew in an event similar to the Challenger disaster, or perhaps an artistic representation of the United States landing on the moon in '69.

I'm sort of NMA's representative on Fallout Wiki. 8-)
 
MercenarySnake said:
Too bad you couldn't just get anything to do with Bethesda's Fallouts off the wiki.
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So you're in favour of discriminating against and censoring an aspect of the online encyclopedia dedicated to all things Fallout because you don't like it. Or were you just making an offhand comment that I've read too much into?
 
D Borous said:
So you're in favour of discriminating against and censoring an aspect of the online encyclopedia dedicated to all things Fallout because you don't like it. Or were you just making an offhand comment that I've read too much into?
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Probably the latter.
 
MercenarySnake said:
Too bad you couldn't just get anything to do with Bethesda's Fallouts off the wiki.
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Honestly, some days I wish that were the case. However, it is the goal of the wiki to cover ALL existing information- only communists censor what they dislike. So, reluctantly, when it comes to the wiki, I will work around the confines of Bethesda's terrible canon.
 
Was just joking around, still it's not my fault I think things like a bomb in the middle of a town, a ghoul locked in a fridge for 200 years, orcs running around for...reasons, and an alien underground city under the Mojave to be absolute shit.
 
The-Artist-64 said:
Honestly, some days I wish that were the case. However, it is the goal of the wiki to cover ALL existing information- only communists censor what they dislike. So, reluctantly, when it comes to the wiki, I will work around the confines of Bethesda's terrible canon.
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Wait what? The Communists aren't the only ones by a long shot.
 
MercenarySnake said:
Was just joking around, still it's not my fault I think things like a bomb in the middle of a town, a ghoul locked in a fridge for 200 years, orcs running around for...reasons, and an alien underground city under the Mojave to be absolute shit.
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Hey, I can definitely agree with that. :-)
 
The-Artist-64 said:
Honestly, some days I wish that were the case. However, it is the goal of the wiki to cover ALL existing information- only communists censor what they dislike. So, reluctantly, when it comes to the wiki, I will work around the confines of Bethesda's terrible canon.
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It would be nice if we have a tier list of canon material and base a wiki on it.

  1. Fallout 2
  2. Fallout 1
  3. Fallout: New Vegas minus content introduced in Fallout 3
  4. Fallout Bible
  5. Fallout Van Buren
 
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