So what lore has Bethesda done gone fucked up?

Dr Fallout said:
Why is Fallout 1 on the number 2 spot?
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Fallout 2 is the last mainline title made by Black Isles Studios. The plot of Fallout 2 is dependent of the Vault Dweller's memoirs. All things in Fallout 1 are canon unless they contradict with Fallout 2. Fallout: New Vegas does make some restrictions on Fallout 2 canon but FO:NV still has some undesired influences from Bethesda. For example, Nuka-Cola was never radioactive in the first and second game especially not home-brewed Nuka-Cola. The Fallout Bible is only a guide. Fallout Van Buren could fill in the gaps on things only briefly mentioned in FO:NV.
 
That could be an interesting thread actually. What elements of Bethesda are in Fallout New Vegas (other than the obvious gameplay similarities) and how can we remove them?

I guess the plasma rifle is one thing, and the energy weapon designs. I found a couple Wasteland Survival Guides. Veronica mentions a small civil war in the Brotherhood of Steel over helping people or collecting tech but she wasn't necessarily talking about the east coast. Anything else?
 
Earth said:
That could be an interesting thread actually. What elements of Bethesda are in Fallout New Vegas (other than the obvious gameplay similarities) and how can we remove them?

I guess the plasma rifle is one thing, and the energy weapon designs. I found a couple Wasteland Survival Guides. Veronica mentions a small civil war in the Brotherhood of Steel over helping people or collecting tech but she wasn't necessarily talking about the east coast. Anything else?
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I think I remember reading somewhere that purified water from DC is floating around in Nevada, if you genuinely want a list you should start pouring over the wiki, if you find enough somebody might make a mod that removes all the Beth stuff and makes it the true Fallout 3.
 
Earth said:
That could be an interesting thread actually. What elements of Bethesda are in Fallout New Vegas (other than the obvious gameplay similarities) and how can we remove them?

I guess the plasma rifle is one thing, and the energy weapon designs. I found a couple Wasteland Survival Guides. Veronica mentions a small civil war in the Brotherhood of Steel over helping people or collecting tech but she wasn't necessarily talking about the east coast. Anything else?
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Do you mean the plasma caster? Plasma /turbo plasma rifles were in both FO1 and 2. The Wattz 2000 laser rifle model was just a slightly modified version of the sniper rifle model.
 
Earth said:
That could be an interesting thread actually. What elements of Bethesda are in Fallout New Vegas (other than the obvious gameplay similarities) and how can we remove them?

I guess the plasma rifle is one thing, and the energy weapon designs. I found a couple Wasteland Survival Guides. Veronica mentions a small civil war in the Brotherhood of Steel over helping people or collecting tech but she wasn't necessarily talking about the east coast. Anything else?
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Some don't need to be removed.
 
Huh.... I completely missed that reference when I played NV. I didn't play FO3 until long after I finished FONV.
 
Dr Fallout said:
Hmm yeah, I'm worried about that.
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The Enclave are still around and they're stronger than ever! Even after having their 4 main bases razed to the ground and being hunted to extinction on the West and East coasts, and now they've teamed up with the Institute and the Zetans to build a giant death ray on the moon and only you can stop them in
Fallout 4 ENCLAVE-ALIEN-ROBOTS-MOON-BATTLE-DLC coming this November!
 
Just you wait after the moon we'll get a DLC about an Enclave/Zetan city buried deep under the Mojave.
 
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MercenarySnake said:
Well as long as there are QTEs in things like boss battles.
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This is so hilariously bad it's good, but I think Bethesda's trademark Gamebryo 2.0 is too bugged for QTEs to properly function on it, which is why they've never used any and keep sticking to the very good design from Half-Life of allowing the player to be free to move most of the time.
 
Spacemunkey said:
I say the DLC will be Preston wanting the player to start some new settlements; he then sends you back in time where you are the founder of America's original 13 colonies.
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I like your thinking. Has this Assassin's Creed thing going on - kids love this, no? We gotta put that into the game. Money. You know?

Dr Fallout said:
God no... the Enclave seriously? Over done.
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Fallout 4 base game check up:
Super Mutants... check
Ghouls... check
Raiders... check
Brotherhood of Steel... check
Enclave... missing

We're missing Enclave for the Fallout formula to work. Better get this fixed straight away with a DLC.
 
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