Some Fallout 4 Xbox mods are being stolen from the PC

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  1. Brivoo

    Brivoo Powered by Radiant AI

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    Jan 20, 2016
    Bethesda is clearly trying to bring back paid mods.
    To do this, however, they have to get rid of the main obstacle in their way, the Mod Nexus and other assorted host websites. They know that it's impossible, so instead they try to put the mods in a context where they can control them.

    In the first instance, it was the Steam Workshop and we all remember how well that went. Retaliation was immediate and theft became commonplace, so they retreated to whatever fucking rock they live under and began scheming and plotting once again.

    The one guy who got the singular neuron they all time-share that day came to the conclusion that the problem was monopoly, or a lack thereof; PC gamers weren't bound to the Steam Workshop and would have probably complained a lot less if they had no choice in the matter.

    To fix this issue, they decided to pander to a different audience, the console players; they'd been asking for mods for a long time, were used to paying for services that people on PC get for free and had basically no other straightforward way to access this community-made content.

    Of course, history repeats itself and in a surprising and mildly worrying show of misunderstanding of their own games Bethesda gave the go-ahead for console mods whilst having made no preparations beforehand.

    I don't blame them for not thinking about the absolutely moronic rivalry PC and console gamers share due to a majorly teen and preteen audience; I personally am motivated a little more towards suicide every time I am reminded of it. Rather, I'm irritated as to how they didn't realize (or neglected to address the fact) that a lot of mods either require optimization or a full-on script extender, leaving console gamers and above all modders to deal with that shit on their own.
     
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  2. Knight In Leather Armor

    Knight In Leather Armor Badger Nutsack

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    Feb 6, 2016
    I simply just enjoy the console mods. I don't have a computer at the moment so this is the closest I have to fun, but the fact that PC Elitists attack and constantly make fun of the newer console modding community is generally just a dick move.
     
  3. RangerBoo

    RangerBoo Resident Schizo Poster

    Jun 15, 2015
    I don't think that is the case. Rather, PC gamers are pissed off at the console gamers stealing PC mods and acting like their sticking it to the "PC Elitist" or some such self righteous BS when they were told by the PC modders that their mods won't work for consoles as they use script extenders, which are a third party program that don't work on consoles, and then send the PC modders insults and death threats over why the mod they stole won't work and broke their game.
     
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  4. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Yep, because complaining about how their mods won't actually work on consoles is a sign of being elitist.
     
  5. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    Everyone wants Bethesda to have Obsidian make another actual Fallout RPG, but with the way they are going it looks like they are going to have EA do the next Fallout game instead.
     
  6. Shardik

    Shardik Still Mildly Glowing

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    Nov 5, 2015
    And stealing mods, posting them on Bethesda.net with donations links, basking in the acclaim from their fellow console users for "sticking it to the Master Race!", spamming mod authors with incessant stompy-foot demands to port their mods to consoles NOW!!!, and responding with tantrums and death threats when told the mods won't work on their consoles, are not generally dick moves?
     
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  7. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    I never had the feeling that the mod community on the PC was so much about elitism. I mean sure, you have your occasional prick posting garbage to boost his ego. But you have those everywhere. In general, I would say the mod community on the PC would be actually very happy if they could somehow share their work with console users as well. I know I would, and creative people often think alike. A bigger audience can be quite nice.
    But when you see how much vitriol is thrown around, than who can blame the modders that they feel irritated? Nothing is worse for modders than entitlement. It's like you're giving someone an awesomes pie to his great dish, and he is complain to you why the plate looks so fucking ugly, which makes you want to throw the pie in their face.

    Hey! I was one of those kidz! But I always respected the fact that it was still stealing, in some form. I was always honest about it. I think it is fair to say that almost everyone of us who grew up in the 90s tried some torrents and is familiar with names like Kademlia, Morpheus, Edonkey and the like. But let us not get to deep in to that ...

    I think, stealing someones content and releasing it as your own is a much bigger asshole move though. And it is definetly not unique. Happens with designers and artists all the time. But I guess the way how people act careless with informations, data and all that stuff kinda adds to it. It definetly isn't helping that people feel so little for their privacy today, except of course when it hits them back! Oh! My boss can ready my facebook page too? Damn! EVIL INTERNET! WHY YOU BETRAY ME >(!
     
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  8. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    Last I checked, no one was stealing console mods to put them on PC...

    Why people think modders are Bethesda employees?
     
  9. Brivoo

    Brivoo Powered by Radiant AI

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    Jan 20, 2016
    Last I checked, there weren't any mods exclusive to consoles to steal.
     
  10. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Snug Rubber

    Sep 11, 2010
    I wonder if that'll change, maybe some console loyalist will be all like "fuck ya'll PC elitists, I'm going to help my console friends by giving them exclusive mods!"
    I mean, with everything that's already happened is that really so far-fetched?
     
  11. Brivoo

    Brivoo Powered by Radiant AI

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    Jan 20, 2016
    I don't see how. The only website that console users can download mods from is Bethesda.net, and you can't upload a mod there that's ONLY for consoles.
     
  12. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    That would be amusing. Let them have one - Wasteland Refrigerators. It's a Workshop mod with various refrigerators. Then they can brag about it being exclusive.

    I think I just gave Bethesda an idea for their next DLC...
     
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  13. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Snug Rubber

    Sep 11, 2010
    You can't? I thought it had those checkbox thingies to decide which system to allow it to?
     
  14. Brivoo

    Brivoo Powered by Radiant AI

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    Jan 20, 2016
    I was under the impression that was only for consoles and PC is just universal.

    Don't quote me on that, though.
     
  15. Shardik

    Shardik Still Mildly Glowing

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    Nov 5, 2015
    Run all around the Commonwealth building fridges, then kidnap kids and stuff them inside them. Because if writers are allowed to have some fun (per Pete Hines), why can't players have some more lulz too?

    It even sets up the next Fallout game set 200 years from 4. Import your save and then you can find all those fridges, rescue the ghoulified kids still alive inside them, and send them back to your settlements or wherever the fuck else you want to send them!
     
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  16. Eor

    Eor First time out of the vault

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    Jul 3, 2016
    HAHAHA

    I can't help but understand what console players must be feeling but I can't agree with them either. The fact that these flame wars exist is hilarious. But seriously, if people are complaining about mods not being on console why don't the console players take the time to learn how to mod for their community? Why is this so difficult to grasp?
     
  17. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    lol...The target audience for Fallout 4 can't even be bothered to read dialogue choices so they introduced a dialogue wheel with 2 or 3 words for each choice and an awful voiced protagonist. How would such people ever have the attention span for learning how to make quality mods? Especially when they just steal them.
     
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  18. Eor

    Eor First time out of the vault

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    Jul 3, 2016
    Can't argue with that, console players are so used to being spoon fed everything.
     
  19. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    It's not even console players. It's casuals.

    This isn't about console vs. PC. I'm not a so-called "PC elitist" This is more about knowing what an RPG is vs. knowing what casualized crap is. I don't think any reasonable person can argue that Fallout 4 has not been made stupid and casualized.

    Fallout 4 is targeted towards people who have never played an RPG or a Fallout game. It's not made for actual Fallout RPG fans.
     
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  20. Big No

    Big No Watch as I open and close this door

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    Oct 28, 2014
    Wouldn't console players need a PC version of Fallout 4 to make mods for it though? I personally would not want to purchase a game twice just so I could make two or three mods for it.