Some Fallout 4 Xbox mods are being stolen from the PC

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Bethesda is clearly trying to bring back paid mods.
To do this, however, they have to get rid of the main obstacle in their way, the Mod Nexus and other assorted host websites. They know that it's impossible, so instead they try to put the mods in a context where they can control them.

In the first instance, it was the Steam Workshop and we all remember how well that went. Retaliation was immediate and theft became commonplace, so they retreated to whatever fucking rock they live under and began scheming and plotting once again.

The one guy who got the singular neuron they all time-share that day came to the conclusion that the problem was monopoly, or a lack thereof; PC gamers weren't bound to the Steam Workshop and would have probably complained a lot less if they had no choice in the matter.

To fix this issue, they decided to pander to a different audience, the console players; they'd been asking for mods for a long time, were used to paying for services that people on PC get for free and had basically no other straightforward way to access this community-made content.

Of course, history repeats itself and in a surprising and mildly worrying show of misunderstanding of their own games Bethesda gave the go-ahead for console mods whilst having made no preparations beforehand.

I don't blame them for not thinking about the absolutely moronic rivalry PC and console gamers share due to a majorly teen and preteen audience; I personally am motivated a little more towards suicide every time I am reminded of it. Rather, I'm irritated as to how they didn't realize (or neglected to address the fact) that a lot of mods either require optimization or a full-on script extender, leaving console gamers and above all modders to deal with that shit on their own.
 
I simply just enjoy the console mods. I don't have a computer at the moment so this is the closest I have to fun, but the fact that PC Elitists attack and constantly make fun of the newer console modding community is generally just a dick move.
 
I simply just enjoy the console mods. I don't have a computer at the moment so this is the closest I have to fun, but the fact that PC Elitists attack and constantly make fun of the newer console modding community is generally just a dick move.
I don't think that is the case. Rather, PC gamers are pissed off at the console gamers stealing PC mods and acting like their sticking it to the "PC Elitist" or some such self righteous BS when they were told by the PC modders that their mods won't work for consoles as they use script extenders, which are a third party program that don't work on consoles, and then send the PC modders insults and death threats over why the mod they stole won't work and broke their game.
 
I simply just enjoy the console mods. I don't have a computer at the moment so this is the closest I have to fun, but the fact that PC Elitists attack and constantly make fun of the newer console modding community is generally just a dick move.
Yep, because complaining about how their mods won't actually work on consoles is a sign of being elitist.
 
Everyone wants Bethesda to have Obsidian make another actual Fallout RPG, but with the way they are going it looks like they are going to have EA do the next Fallout game instead.
 
I simply just enjoy the console mods. I don't have a computer at the moment so this is the closest I have to fun, but the fact that PC Elitists attack and constantly make fun of the newer console modding community is generally just a dick move.
And stealing mods, posting them on Bethesda.net with donations links, basking in the acclaim from their fellow console users for "sticking it to the Master Race!", spamming mod authors with incessant stompy-foot demands to port their mods to consoles NOW!!!, and responding with tantrums and death threats when told the mods won't work on their consoles, are not generally dick moves?
 
I never had the feeling that the mod community on the PC was so much about elitism. I mean sure, you have your occasional prick posting garbage to boost his ego. But you have those everywhere. In general, I would say the mod community on the PC would be actually very happy if they could somehow share their work with console users as well. I know I would, and creative people often think alike. A bigger audience can be quite nice.
But when you see how much vitriol is thrown around, than who can blame the modders that they feel irritated? Nothing is worse for modders than entitlement. It's like you're giving someone an awesomes pie to his great dish, and he is complain to you why the plate looks so fucking ugly, which makes you want to throw the pie in their face.

An unfortunate backside to our age of information sharing. Of course kids who grow up downloading music and sharing videos and images will have a harder time grasping the finer details of copyright laws. Heck, even I find it hard to always know what's right and wrong in my field - art and graphics design.

This, along with source criticism, are two areas I hope schools start taking more seriously.
Hey! I was one of those kidz! But I always respected the fact that it was still stealing, in some form. I was always honest about it. I think it is fair to say that almost everyone of us who grew up in the 90s tried some torrents and is familiar with names like Kademlia, Morpheus, Edonkey and the like. But let us not get to deep in to that ...

I think, stealing someones content and releasing it as your own is a much bigger asshole move though. And it is definetly not unique. Happens with designers and artists all the time. But I guess the way how people act careless with informations, data and all that stuff kinda adds to it. It definetly isn't helping that people feel so little for their privacy today, except of course when it hits them back! Oh! My boss can ready my facebook page too? Damn! EVIL INTERNET! WHY YOU BETRAY ME >(!
 
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Last I checked, there weren't any mods exclusive to consoles to steal.
I wonder if that'll change, maybe some console loyalist will be all like "fuck ya'll PC elitists, I'm going to help my console friends by giving them exclusive mods!"
I mean, with everything that's already happened is that really so far-fetched?
 
I wonder if that'll change, maybe some console loyalist will be all like "fuck ya'll PC elitists, I'm going to help my console friends by giving them exclusive mods!"
I mean, with everything that's already happened is that really so far-fetched?

I don't see how. The only website that console users can download mods from is Bethesda.net, and you can't upload a mod there that's ONLY for consoles.
 
Last I checked, there weren't any mods exclusive to consoles to steal.
I wonder if that'll change, maybe some console loyalist will be all like "fuck ya'll PC elitists, I'm going to help my console friends by giving them exclusive mods!"
I mean, with everything that's already happened is that really so far-fetched?
That would be amusing. Let them have one - Wasteland Refrigerators. It's a Workshop mod with various refrigerators. Then they can brag about it being exclusive.

I think I just gave Bethesda an idea for their next DLC...
 
I don't see how. The only website that console users can download mods from is Bethesda.net, and you can't upload a mod there that's ONLY for consoles.
You can't? I thought it had those checkbox thingies to decide which system to allow it to?
 
That would be amusing. Let them have one - Wasteland Refrigerators. It's a Workshop mod with various refrigerators. Then they can brag about it being exclusive.

I think I just gave Bethesda an idea for their next DLC...
Run all around the Commonwealth building fridges, then kidnap kids and stuff them inside them. Because if writers are allowed to have some fun (per Pete Hines), why can't players have some more lulz too?

It even sets up the next Fallout game set 200 years from 4. Import your save and then you can find all those fridges, rescue the ghoulified kids still alive inside them, and send them back to your settlements or wherever the fuck else you want to send them!
 
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Everyone wants Bethesda to have Obsidian make another actual Fallout RPG, but with the way they are going it looks like they are going to have EA do the next Fallout game instead.

HAHAHA

I can't help but understand what console players must be feeling but I can't agree with them either. The fact that these flame wars exist is hilarious. But seriously, if people are complaining about mods not being on console why don't the console players take the time to learn how to mod for their community? Why is this so difficult to grasp?
 
why don't the console players take the time to learn
lol...The target audience for Fallout 4 can't even be bothered to read dialogue choices so they introduced a dialogue wheel with 2 or 3 words for each choice and an awful voiced protagonist. How would such people ever have the attention span for learning how to make quality mods? Especially when they just steal them.
 
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Can't argue with that, console players are so used to being spoon fed everything.
It's not even console players. It's casuals.

This isn't about console vs. PC. I'm not a so-called "PC elitist" This is more about knowing what an RPG is vs. knowing what casualized crap is. I don't think any reasonable person can argue that Fallout 4 has not been made stupid and casualized.

Fallout 4 is targeted towards people who have never played an RPG or a Fallout game. It's not made for actual Fallout RPG fans.
 
But seriously, if people are complaining about mods not being on console why don't the console players take the time to learn how to mod for their community? Why is this so difficult to grasp?
Wouldn't console players need a PC version of Fallout 4 to make mods for it though? I personally would not want to purchase a game twice just so I could make two or three mods for it.
 
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