Super Mutants: An Article on what Bethesda has done with them in Fallout 4

Dr Fallout said:
In today's society, that's a good thing right?
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Yes, Not to cover Reddit in a blanket, but I find most opinions on there are ill informed and when it come to Elder Scrolls there is a sort of, "You ain't cool if you don't know who M.K. is" Most of those people use it as a badge of honor or symbol of status. To me, those people are dumb and should find a better hobby.
 
DirtyOldShoe said:
Yes, Not to cover Reddit in a blanket, but I find most opinions on there are ill informed and when it come to Elder Scrolls there is a sort of, "You ain't cool if you don't know who M.K. is" Most of those people use it as a badge of honor or symbol of status. To me, those people are dumb and should find a better hobby.
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I think it's not being cool that's the problem, but the need to feel well informed and knowing.
 
Dr Fallout said:
Yeah the Institute seems to be advanced in select areas, but can't do anything else...

I don't know, does this make sense?
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I have read somewhere that advances in technology are usually distributed, relatively speaking, in a more even courve. It's usually not like in Sci-Fi movies, where alien races invented FTL-travel, zipping trough galaxies, but can't make a gun that hits anything ... or simply killing earth with pathogens, chemical weapons or simply, mass drivers. Throwing rocks at earth of the size of small towns would be more devastating than any conventional weapon, and for a race that advanced, this should be rather easy.
As far as technological evolution goes. See the Manhattan project or the Space Race as example. Both the nuclear bomb and the moon landing are pivotal achievements, but they lead to thousands of brake troughs in engineering. So yeah, if they achieved teleportation, it would be fair to assume that it also pushed many different, maybe even on the first sight unrelated areas.
The computers used for teleportation alone, which would have to do a tremendous amount of calculation in a short time, would push the research and engineering in all sorts of fields. Like material science, the construction of nano tubes, new superconducting materials at room temperature and many more really freaky materials, based on principles known from quantum physics. All of this would become eventually feasible and possible to simulate easily with all its effects.
It took them I think 20 years in the real world, to figure out the exact flow of the magnetic field in the most advanced fusion reactor we have today, to keep the super heated plasma in controll. And will still take some 40-50 years before it might work correctly. Imagine if you could do such calculations in like a few minutes, or seconds even. This is the kind of complexity we are talking about when we are looking at teleportation of matter.
 
Crni Vuk said:
I have read somewhere that advances in technology are usually distributed, relatively speaking, in a more even courve. It's usually not like in Sci-Fi movies, where alien races invented FTL-travel, zipping trough galaxies, but can't make a gun that hits anything ... or simply killing earth with pathogens, chemical weapons or simply, mass drivers. Throwing rocks at earth of the size of small towns would be more devastating than any conventional weapon, and for a race that advanced, this should be rather easy.
As far as technological evolution goes. See the Manhattan project or the Space Race as example. Both the nuclear bomb and the moon landing are pivotal achievements, but they lead to thousands of brake troughs in engineering. So yeah, if they achieved teleportation, it would be fair to assume that it also pushed many different, maybe even on the first sight unrelated areas.
The computers used for teleportation alone, which would have to do a tremendous amount of calculation in a short time, would push the research and engineering in all sorts of fields. Like material science, the construction of nano tubes, new superconducting materials at room temperature and many more really freaky materials, based on principles known from quantum physics. All of this would become eventually feasible and possible to simulate easily with all its effects.
It took them I think 20 years in the real world, to figure out the exact flow of the magnetic field in the most advanced fusion reactor we have today, to keep the super heated plasma in controll. And will still take some 40-50 years before it might work correctly. Imagine if you could do such calculations in like a few minutes, or seconds even. This is the kind of complexity we are talking about when we are looking at teleportation of matter.
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That is true, the creation of military communication such as cell phones rocketed to the civilian market really successfully, creating advanced and more advanced versions.
 
I usually stir up debates with that, but I have the opinion that wars, in general, are actually a hindrance to technological progress.
 
Examples?
If we use both WW1 and WW2 as example, it has been a huge drain on men and material. A lot of resources have been spend in areas where basic research was given up in favour of applications and technologies that had benefits for the war. Researchers and workers, that could have eventually used their expertise for civilian projects, had to serve in the military, and who knows how many people have died, who would have otherwise invented something.
They say, war is the mother of inventions. I think that is a fallacy. I think, war is a situation that creates necessities. We make war, where we use inventions, not inventions because of war. War is never a constant state, it is an extreme. Prosperity is never gained in a conflict. WW2 has seen a very large number of technologies. However, many of those technologies actually came from civilian research, or have been already researched before the war stated. Like jet engines, most of the tank designs, radar technology, nuclear bomb and so on. While it is true that certain inventions happen in war time, most of the time, it is killing any basic research. But basic research is a fundamental principle when you want to find something new, or come up with improvements.
 
Crni Vuk said:
Examples?
If we use both WW1 and WW2 as example, it has been a huge drain on men and material. A lot of resources have been spend in areas where basic research was given up in favour of applications and technologies that had benefits for the war. Researchers and workers, that could have eventually used their expertise for civilian projects, had to serve in the military, and who knows how many people have died, who would have otherwise invented something.
They say, war is the mother of inventions. I think that is a fallacy. I think, war is a situation that creates necessities. We make war, where we use inventions, not inventions because of war. War is never a constant state, it is an extreme. Prosperity is never gained in a conflict. WW2 has seen a very large number of technologies. However, many of those technologies actually came from civilian research, or have been already researched before the war stated. Like jet engines, most of the tank designs, radar technology, nuclear bomb and so on. While it is true that certain inventions happen in war time, most of the time, it is killing any basic research. But basic research is a fundamental principle when you want to find something new, or come up with improvements.
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Ever heard of the arms race? Or scientists attempting to create better weaponry?

It's only a fallacy if you don't count military research and inventions which you seem to do.
 
Nah the argument is already over.

War only advances military technology, which sometimes can advance civilian technology. Saying war doesn't advance any technology is frankly ridiculous which isn't what Crni is saying... right?
 
Of course not! Technological progress happens all the time. It is a steady process. Maybe not at all times at the same pace - see Japan with its 300 year isolation from 1600 to 1800. So naturally, new inventions happen also in war times. But, and that is my point, the progress is vastly slowed down during war, and there are less inventions made that have broad applications. Inventions like the Panther tank or the Stgw44 assault rifle, really don't have that many applications, outside of shooting stuff. And with wars I mean real conflicts, not like the US droping bombs on Afghanistan or such stuff. I mean Vietnam, Korea, WW2, WW1, Iran vs Iraq etc. I mean, there is obviously not much room for basic research if trenches, troops and bombs are droped on your nation.
 
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