Talking Heads

:ok: Very nice work on Vic, Jotisz. You've made great progress. Here are my observations on a few details. He should have a little tan, a little grayer hair especially on the temples with different highlights/textures on the rest of his hair, and eyebrows. Give the man some eyebrows! ALL people have eyebrows, except Sulik, but he shaves his whole head. I agree that he looks a little shiny, but the dirt other people are asking for is optional. Sulik does not look that dirty, and he's a tribal. If you make him dirty, people playing the game will keep asking, "Why doesn't Vic take a bath? He's dirtier that Sulik." The stubble on Vic's face is an excellent touch. Very well done.

As for his clothes, the shaggy vest is not right. It should be leather or brown fabric. His critter has the same color for his vest and pants, and looks like he's wearing pre-war business clothes with his sleeves rolled up. The shirt is OK, but should not be buttoned up all the way, because Vic is a little sloppy. I like Lavo's pocket vest idea, but that might be hard to show, with so little of his vest showing in the picture. Don't worry too much about that. Maybe you could put a small pocket high up near his left shoulder, with a row of precision screwdrivers. Yeah, that could work. 8-)

Overall, Vic is looking very good. There are just a few details to be ironed out. I would really like to see this talking head in the Restoration Project. :D
 
Agree with everyone on the new Vic: the vest should be leather-ish and the face not so shiny. I think with those two changes, he would be perfect. Good job man.
 
Jotisz, this picture might help you make your supermutant better

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Thanks for the comments
About Vic I will change the jacket but leave the shirt as it is since poor Vic doesn't have a real body just a head and neck, I played around a bit with lighting still a bit pale but no longer as he was previously I want to finish him in this year.

The girl in CA
The head is really just for placeholding but still it should have been made better thanks for pointing out the nose it should be changed (and probably will be). Also I will redo the helmet soon and change the color similar to that olive green helmet Lavo posted
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Fallout1FTW thanks for the pic you posted. It will come in handy. By the way are there any side view pic for super mutants though I think I would be able to draw one now but still would be useful to see one (note I know tactics has some side view concepts but those mutants are different).
Thanks again for the comments.
 
I disagree with Vic being bald. His critter has always had a fringe. Besides, we already have a bald companion, Sulik. I think Jotisz removed the hair to change it, like he did the clothes.

The lighting change is great. That helps a lot. You might try a little back light behind his head, if you can. It's a trick they use in the movie/video industry to "separate the actor from the background." Now he just needs a little tan, his hair back, and EYEBROWS! Seeing someone missing eyebrows kind of creeps me out. He doesn't need heavy eyebrows, but he should have something. I'm sure your vest change will be fine. As for the shirt, how about a gray T-shirt under his button up shirt? Then you could unbutton the top button and not have to show any part of his body underneath it. It's just a thought. If you keep the shirt buttoned up you should add one little detail, a front seam. Currently, it looks like the front of Vic's shirt is solid cloth with a button for decoration.

The remaining details are small, but the end results will be great! We're all looking forward to seeing the next pictures. :D
 
Face is tanned hair is back shirt have been improved a little next is the jacket about eyebrows I've tried to create some but failed so they will be applied only as textures similar to the head that .Pixote. made with facegen.
 
Really good job in this one Jotisz :clap:

My only (probably last) suggestion would be to make his lips looks more like this guy's:
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Make 'em more voluptuous, it will add more to the (quote Conti) lulzy Fallout effect that we all know and love :wink:

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Oh, and make the sides of his nose a little more rounded, like the fat man's :mrgreen:
 
Jotisz said:
Face is tanned hair is back shirt have been improved a little next is the jacket about eyebrows I've tried to create some but failed so they will be applied only as textures similar to the head that .Pixote. made with facegen.
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You should make his hair a bit darker, because with the dark beard he looks strange.
 
:clap: NICE! Like the tan. The hair is grayer than I expected, but it fits the character. Vic may not start out as a combat veteran, but he is a wasteland veteran, wandering around as a traveling merchant. Years of that would take a toll and it should show. Now we can see the textures in his hair and that looks great! Maybe make his hair a little darker and keep it lighter around his temples, if possible. Don't change the beard/stubble; it should be darker than his hair. He's not that old yet. Facial hair doesn't necessarily match one's head hair anyway. My own hair and mustache are dark blonde/light brown, but when I grew a beard once, it was so black it looked like it had bluish tints. I think Vic's overall facial features are fine the way they are.

I'm sorry to hear about your difficulties with his eyebrows. :question: I don't know why you can't add a little hair to the front of his brow like you do to the sides of his head. Don't worry about photo realism. Go back to FO1 and look at the overseer's eyebrows, yeesh! If I had something like that on my face, I'd swat it. :facepalm: You should prepare a few images of Vic with a selection of your attempts at making eyebrows and post them here. Then the rest of us could have a look and provide feedback.

The front seam on the shirt is perfect! That's all it needed. Like it. Keep it. I'm looking forward to seeing the new vest! :ok:

Edit: One other detail. His eyes are in such dark shadows, it's hard to see them. It makes him look cross-eyed. They were much more visible in earlier versions. Anything you can do?
 
I put the pic in spoilers cause there are a lot of them

Here are a plenty of renders of the possible outfits with the eyebrow I prefer (note I think the leather jacket is the best from them)
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Other eyebrows
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Other stuff a ghoul or something like that and a new head from Vic's for show, he was made with the sculpt tools in blender hope the blend file I wish to upload would be useful for some right now its 13mb and contains all thats above.
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Jotisz said:
I put the pic in spoilers cause there are a lot of them

Here are a plenty of renders of the possible outfits with the eyebrow I prefer (note I think the leather jacket is the best from them)
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Other eyebrows
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Other stuff a ghoul or something like that and a new head from Vic's for show, he was made with the sculpt tools in blender hope the blend file I wish to upload would be useful for some right now its 13mb and contains all thats above.
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The bald guy on the left could be Metzger. As for the ghoul guy on the right, change the mouth and you have a great Lenny.
 
Jotisz said:
Here are a plenty of renders of the possible outfits with the eyebrow I prefer (note I think the leather jacket is the best from them)

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I agree with your eyebrow choice. I see you have also reduced the shadows in his eyes. It looks great! Before he looked too "intense". Vic is a more laid back kind of guy. The shadow changes and eyebrows give him a more laid back look. Even the eyebrow coloring you chose helps. It balances his gray hair with the dark stubble on his beard, but I still think his hair should be just a little darker, maybe more brown, maybe medium brown with gray highlights. (I know, there's no pleasing some people :wall:) There is one very small detail that has caught my eye. On the left side of the picture (right side of Vic's head) I see a small gap between Vic's hair and the side of his head, by his ear, where the blue background is showing through. It's just a tiny spot but it should be filled.

As for the vest; by "leather jacket," I assume you mean you like the version with the broad collar; not me. Vic should have pockets to carry stuff like tools, IMO, since he's a repair monkey. You need the right tools for that. I like both of the ones I left showing above. At first, I didn't like the shoulder loops. Then I thought, "he could hang stuff from them," so they're OK. I think I like the vest with the zipper on the shoulder a little bit more. If you added some tools in the open pocket just below it, it would be perfect! I love little details like that, like Marcus and the little vices on his shoulder.

In summary; slightly darker hair color (if you want), fill tiny gap, and vest choice. You're so close it's exciting! :dance:

Now for these guys:
Jotisz said:
Other stuff a ghoul or something like that and a new head from Vic's for show, he was made with the sculpt tools in blender hope the blend file I wish to upload would be useful for some right now its 13mb and contains all thats above.
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I agree with Psihotik about the ghoul. You have the early makings of a talking head for Lenny. The "normie" looks like he could be one of these guys.
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Great work, Jotisz. You're making some awesome progress here. Hopefully we'll get a final render, get him animated, and then add him as an option in the RP! :)
 
Thanks for the feedbacks


Killap the head is quite near to the finish line here are the anims I've done (gif from frm), don't know how much time is needed to put a finished head in the game if you think I can send you this one as a placeholder.

About Metzger:
Continuum have made a head that was based on Wolna idea of Metzger that was pretty cool, as I know it was finished but it got lost.
Personally I preferred that head it fitted Metzger character really well.

About Lenny:
Well I can work on that head after Vic is fully OK. Though there were some quality models done by nyibelunger (a head for Lenny and Jo) I will ask him in the next week if he still works on Lenny's head.
 
Psihotik said:
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The bald guy on the left could be Metzger.
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No, he would be good as Salvatores or Wrights boss (More Wrights coz Salvatore is much older I guess). Suits the character model quite well.

Anyway I like Vic very much now. Very good work!
The only thing I would change is texture of his clothes (especially shirt). It's just too... artificial. It just doesn't look natural... But maybe it's just me ;P

Maybe try to look up Myron's model. He has similar shirt.

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i think that th is great and clothes textures is good too.
But to me one thing is not correct - lights, many of original th is dark half. Try to set omni light right or left of the head with negative intensity/multiplier value.
 
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