The Fatman
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I personally think the Fatman is a rediculous idea. While personal Nuclear weapons where in development in the 50s, they where still meant for very long range combat. As it stands I would rather see a launcher that fires plasma grenades, which would fit the canon perfectly.
Blackwing said:
Yeah, thats an odd question and cut off. I mean, once you start doing that, you could also say, what is the point of the plasma rifle, plasma pistol, and the various other weapons that are technically not "real" in the FO universe.
The Fatman really has no point, it's just a "last ditch gun" or a "i wonder what happens if i shoot this at that rat 2 feet away from me" kind of deal.
Anyways, i do know of the significance of the term "Nuclear Weapon" in FO, so having this as a weapon does kind of hurt all the metaphorical impact that the "Nuke" has carried in the FO universe, till now.
But having a sort of "Plasma Cannon/Launcher" would still be decent for the game.
Even if it is to just "level shit" and cause it "looks cool," it shows a gradual evolution of the Plasma weapon series, and still would just be interesting to see how they do it.
Yes except that most plasma weapon blueprints were made BEFORE the bombs fell and the BoS just recreated the weapons based on the blueprints.
They could develope newer, stronger variations, but what the bleeding fuck for? (oh god I love being able to swear without censorship)
They have Turbo Plasma Rifles and Laser Gattling guns, those kill mutants/raiders dead.
They could develope newer, stronger variations, but what the bleeding fuck for? (oh god I love being able to swear without censorship)
They have Turbo Plasma Rifles and Laser Gattling guns, those kill mutants/raiders dead.
Blackwing said:
Maybe a plasma rocket launcher could have been created before the war?
If we wanted to explain it, we could say that production of such heavy plasma weapons only started right before the bombs fell. Therefore, there are very few plasma rocket launchers out there - but you can find one if, say, you go off an explore an abandoned, pre-war military base.
There are plenty of military bases and such near D.C., of course.
A plasma-grenade-like rocket for the Rocketlauncher, I could live with. That's just a continuation of pre-existing Fallout tech.
But even so, it should not be some kind of 'uber' weapon that levels entire city block, it should simply be to the HE rocket what a Plasma grenade is to the Frag grenade.
But even so, it should not be some kind of 'uber' weapon that levels entire city block, it should simply be to the HE rocket what a Plasma grenade is to the Frag grenade.
Vault 69er
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
One could also explain plasma rockets/grenade launchers as an anti-Power Armour weapon deployed by the Chinese. A few units were captured before the bombs fell and are hence very rare.
There could even be a sort of side quest where you can turn in into the BoS or somebody for money/kudos or keep it for yourself.
There could even be a sort of side quest where you can turn in into the BoS or somebody for money/kudos or keep it for yourself.
Sorrow
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Or rather an US weapon against Chinese vehicles that was deployed on the frontline.
Vault 69er
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
Grey_Wolf said:
I doubt that the crew of a submarine would be issued with plasma launchers.
I'm thinking more of them being used against PAs during the Anchorage Reclamation. It's not impossible that some were taken and shipped to D.C. before the war.
Sorrow
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Err...
Shouldn't Americans have a monopoly for energy weapons?
Chinese fired their nukes because they were losing and they were losing because they were unable to counter the PA.
Shouldn't Americans have a monopoly for energy weapons?
Chinese fired their nukes because they were losing and they were losing because they were unable to counter the PA.
Vault 69er
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
Sorrow said:
I don't think so, given that one of the PA's features is resisting energy weapons (I think).
Plus the Chinese developed their own PA, they might've been able to develop some sort of PA-buster too. But like their PA, only manufactured in small quantities, too small to prevent getting kicked out of Alaska and setting off their nukes. Which is why I said it would be a very, very rare piece of technology.
Vault 69er said:
I've never read anything about any Chinese PA(Power Armor). But i have read of their use of Stealth Boys which we did "steal" from them.
I never heard of them stealing PA from us.
And yes, why not have those plasma launchers on the sub? It seems like the perfect weapon if you get ship wrecked or want a "mini" invasion.
I've always found the armor piercing rockets to be quite well at reducing an Enclave trooper's armor to ash.
Jidai Geki
It Wandered In From the Wastes
The whole problem with this Fatman thing is the sheer flippancy of the treatment of nukes. We go from a last-ditch final solution only to be used when absolutely necessary to some throwaway weapon we can use to be amazed at how awesome the graphics are on the mini-mushroom cloud. It's bullshit.
fallout ranger
Vault Dweller
Davy crockett, 50's tech...google.
We went over that. Davy Crockett is not a nuclear catapult.
It's a protable NUCLEAR-FUCKING-WEAPON.
It's a protable NUCLEAR-FUCKING-WEAPON.
fallout ranger
Vault Dweller
Okay, the "catapault" moniker is retarded, but I'm just trying to show that it would be possible (though farfetched as it is) to have such a weapon.
Related: DU liners in shaped charges have been used and experimented with, but alas, not nuclear.
Related: DU liners in shaped charges have been used and experimented with, but alas, not nuclear.
The Davy Crockett was still a warhead. It wasn't designed to have a 50m explosion radius, as that would defeat the purpose of a NUCLEAR weapon.