The Fatman

[Robert Czarwolski]

Fatman

What i hate is that Bathseda is treathing the nuclear energy (one of the biggest energies of the universe) like a HL2 Gravity Gun (in the last part of the game, when its blue....), what is simply ridiculous..... Would be more compatible do a Plasma Warhead Railgun Bullet

 

[fallout ranger]

The point is that we don't need anything that rediculously powerful in the game, at least not something man-portable.

 

[TheWesDude]

yea, the fatman should be like that howitzer in FO 1 that you can use to get into sierra depot.

 

[Martinez]

The thing about any type of portable nuclear weapon is that it's range would be shorter then the area of effect so anyone using it would suffer it's effects too. Even in the clip about Davy Crockett the guy talking about it said it was "a desperation weapon at best". An example of an acceptable way (sort of) to use a nuke would be the way you entered Vault 0 in Tactics and even that was a stretch. IMO any nuclear device should only be used as the self-destruct mechanism of a base/vault where you just confronted a boss, preferably The Boss. It's only purpose is to emphasize the magnitude and the implications of what the player has done. It's supposed to be a metaphor, not a WMD.

 

[Carib FMJ]

I mean, the world is irradiated enough, using nukes like that wouldn't it further fuck up the character as well as the world.

 

[Grimhound]

I mean, the world is irradiated enough, using nukes like that wouldn't it further fuck up the character as well as the world.

Seriously. I've always held radiation in the Fallout universe as what it is. A silent killer that is undetectable until it hits you, and then it might be too late. Bringing nukes into play so casually is one of the most ill-advised things Bethesda could've done, in my honest opinion. It's like they're trying to turn Max Rockatansky/Rick Deckard into Rambo/T-800.

I don't want to be able to blow up an entire city. I want to hunt down a slaver, shoot the arm they hold their gun in, chase them down an alley, and proceed to dispense of them through either a bullet to the eye and/or 5 shots to the groin.

 

[Ravager69]

The most stupid thing I've heard about the Fatman is, that when it reloads, it makes a sound like a microwave when it's done preparing a meal (or somethiing like that). That is a 50's refference, right, but it's too ridiculous in my opinion.

Besides, BoS, as a wise and old organization should know that fucking with nuclear weapons is not a good idea (you find the Fatman on one of the BoS corpses from what I recall, so I assume they constructed it), so they'd never develop it. Well, maybe some Bethesda crew survivor joined their ranks, then I'd understand.

Plus, fighting a beast like the infamous Behemoth would mean a very close quarter combat, which means you'd be very close to the center of explosion, if you'd use the shizt. That means a lot of rads (too much ) and possibly a critical injury inflicted upon the PC and death\serious injuries of the other soldiers fighting along with you. Seriously, how can a 19 year old kid with no protection against radiation, like the PA, could withstand the effects of such an explosion?

I vote for a Ion Cannon or something like that. No nuclearz, please.

 

[Azrael-Arkangel]

Well, maybe some Bethesda crew survivor joined their ranks, then I'd understand.

Plus, fighting a beast like the infamous Behemoth would mean a very close quarter combat, which means you'd be very close to the center of explosion, if you'd use the shizt. That means a lot of rads (too much ) and possibly a critical injury inflicted upon the PC and death\serious injuries of the other soldiers fighting along with you.

No, I bet that you will be transformed into a ghoul. That will be a plot turn or something. "After becoming a ghoul, our hero finds his father.. and his father kick him in the groin while screaming *GET THE FUCKING FUCK AWAY FROM ME YOU FUCKING MUTANT!!1!one!exclamtion point!!*" But thinking it better, it won't hit him in the groin... because that will be silly.

But seriously, it seems that they made this weapon so they can add more mushroom clouds to the game. What is the case to create a weapon that will irradiate you every time you fire it? This thing doesn't make any sense in any way, it's sounds like a weapon that a sadomasochist suicidal bomber would use, instead of die instantly he choose to painfully die from radiation poisoning... of course, all that pain will make him happy probably.

 

[generalissimofurioso]

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Plus, fighting a beast like the infamous Behemoth would mean a very close quarter combat, which means you'd be very close to the center of explosion, if you'd use the shizt. That means a lot of rads (too much ) and possibly a critical injury inflicted upon the PC and death\serious injuries of the other soldiers fighting along with you. Seriously, how can a 19 year old kid with no protection against radiation, like the PA, could withstand the effects of such an explosion?

That's the major problem I see with the Fatman, making it the "Boss-Killing Weapon". Instead of having the player use their skills and wit to defeat the Behemoth, you just have to use the MAGICAL EBONY BLADE... err, Fatman to kill it. It's poor design at best, sheer idiocy at worst.

Personally, I know I'd feel a lot more accomplishment taking down the Behemoth with a sustained assault along with the rest of the BOS, or letting the Behemoth smash up the BOS and taking potshots at it from long distance with a rifle (like I did with Horrigan).

 

[Xenophile]

I still don't think we can dismiss the posibility that the weapon is an "easter egg" of sorts like the alien blaster. In that capacity as a jab at the 50's phenom of attaching nukes to everything, I think it's pretty funny.

But hey.. that's just me. I don't think it's going to be something you pick up at Joe's Gun Shop in Scraptown.

 

[Grimhound]

I say they take out the Fatman, replace it with Deathclaws with lasers strapped to their frikkin heads. The ideas are of equal design standard.

 

[Grimhound]

I still don't think we can dismiss the posibility that the weapon is an "easter egg" of sorts like the alien blaster. In that capacity as a jab at the 50's phenom of attaching nukes to everything, I think it's pretty funny.

But hey.. that's just me. I don't think it's going to be something you pick up at Joe's Gun Shop in Scraptown.

If they were going to add in something like The Fatman as an easter egg, I'd still prefer a sort of 'Microwave Gun' to the idea of a portable nuke. Portable nukes are for MDK and RTS games... and Empires when you have a commander that doesn't understand that nukes are worthless against enemy vehicles. >_>

Edit: Not off-topic so much, but... SCIENCE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYyTgeZwYCA

 

[TorontoReign]

So far the Fatman is the only thing that I am worried about in the upcoming game. I could see it being used a maximum of two times in the game and it being tolerable,but a regular weapon? It makes me think of the fucking BFG in Doom or something.

 

[myzko]

One thing that worries me is that all cars blow up on slighest provocation

Would that not suggest that they have juice left? Why weren't they scavenged?

I mean, cars for me in FO universe are heaps of metal that will never ever run again, (even if the mechanic of the year turned up!)

 

[Ashmo]

Remember taking that fuel injector thing from the car in Klamath? The car basically crumbled to dust the second you extracted the part. THAT's what cars in FO should be like.

 

[Ravager69]

Remember taking that fuel injector thing from the car in Klamath? The car basically crumbled to dust the second you extracted the part. THAT's what cars in FO should be like.

And then you find perfectly working Highwayman with only one missing part to run it.

Anyway, the cars' engine after an atomic bomb blast would be destroyed beyond any hope of repair, as all other components.

 

[Wooz]

Noz the car injin isself would blow up in nukulurr xplosion olol

So far the Fatman is the only thing that I am worried about in the upcoming game.

Bawhaw. The plotholes that make the Grand Canyon look like a scratch don't bother you? The overall "generic" feel of everything we've seen so far either?

Boy oh boy.

replace it with Deathclaws with lasers strapped to their frikkin heads.

Bears. Bears that shoot laser beams out of their eyes. Man, it would be so AWESOME!

 

[Ravager69]

Just replace the Fatman with a Dual Glowing Dwarven SE Katanas + 15 with a better critical chance.


L2 for life. No other game is more Star Wars than this one.

 

[TorontoReign]

Noz the car injin isself would blow up in nukulurr xplosion olol

So far the Fatman is the only thing that I am worried about in the upcoming game.

Bawhaw. The plotholes that make the Grand Canyon look like a scratch don't bother you? The overall "generic" feel of everything we've seen so far either?

Boy oh boy.

replace it with Deathclaws with lasers strapped to their frikkin heads.

Bears. Bears that shoot laser beams out of their eyes. Man, it would be so AWESOME!

Well Wooz, let me make myself clear. I know that there is a high possibility that Bethesda will change so many aspects of the game that it will not even appear to be Fallout. They already have changed a lot. I am bothered by this slightly,but I want to play a Post-Apocalyptic game so bad that I am willing to overlook the blasphemy. I want to walk through the wasteland in hi-def glory. I just want to play the damn game even if it sucks when compared to Fallout 1 and 2. It HAS to be better than POS!!!!

 

[Ravager69]

Unfortunatly, I feel the same. There is absolutly no chance of Bethesda giving up the Fallout license, so there is no other way if you want anything Fallout. Sucks ass, I know, but except not buying it, what can we do?