The Good Aspects of Fallout 4

The character creation was the best part for me, and before the Codexians on here start pointing it out, by that term I mean appearance customisation.

The power armour was also good, but I never felt as strongly positive about it as others do - to me, if the game's about power armoured soldiers, focusing on perfecting that mechanic makes sense, but in this case, it's in a game that traditionally allowed pacifism. It feels unfitting, like stealth games nowadays where they say "choose your own method" but the truth is there's only one method that the developer designed the game to the fullest for. Bethesda should be making their own IP with the power armour mechanics - here, it feels like a well-designed gimmick, but still a gimmick.

Honestly, to decide what's good, I just asked myself, "what from Fallout 4 do I want in New Vegas that I can't get from mods?" and the only answer to that was the character creation.
 
ZigzagPX4 said:
The character creation was the best part for me, and before the Codexians on here start pointing it out, by that term I mean appearance customisation
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I didn't find the character creation to be anything special considering I have way more options from a mod in Skyrim. I hate to be "that guy" in comparing what I have in a modded Skyrim to FO4 , but BGS brought it on themselves when they decided to use an "upgraded" Skyrim engine. I mean if you can't accomplish something in your own game with an updated engine that mod authors did years ago with inferior tools and engine, then you suck at your job.
 
I didn't care for the "sculpting" aspect of the character creation myself, I don't know what moving my mouse this way does and if I press this then I have to redo this feature. I prefer sliders especially since I almost gave my character a twisted nose.
Yeah I hate to admit it but the extended character creator mod for Skyrim gave way more options.
 
Spacemunkey said:
I didn't find the character creation to be anything special considering I have way more options from a mod in Skyrim. I hate to be "that guy" in comparing what I have in a modded Skyrim to FO4 , but BGS brought it on themselves when they decided to use an "upgraded" Skyrim engine. I mean if you can't accomplish something in your own game with an updated engine that mod authors did years ago with inferior tools and engine, then you suck at your job.
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MercenarySnake said:
I didn't care for the "sculpting" aspect of the character creation myself, I don't know what moving my mouse this way does and if I press this then I have to redo this feature. I prefer sliders especially since I almost gave my character a twisted nose.
Yeah I hate to admit it but the extended character creator mod for Skyrim gave way more options.
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I wasn't comparing it to Skyrim. I was comparing it to New Vegas.
 
ZigzagPX4 said:
I wasn't comparing it to Skyrim. I was comparing it to New Vegas.
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For things like AI, character creation, textures, etc, it's only fair to compare it to Skyrim since this game was sold as being an upgraded Skyrim engine. I get that wasn't your comparison, it was mine.

MercenarySnake said:
I didn't care for the "sculpting" aspect of the character creation myself, I don't know what moving my mouse this way does and if I press this then I have to redo this feature. I prefer sliders especially since I almost gave my character a twisted nose.
Yeah I hate to admit it but the extended character creator mod for Skyrim gave way more options.
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It felt clunky as shit and that sculpting crap was there just so people didn't say it used the same sliders as Skyrim.
 
Spacemunkey said:
For things like AI, character creation, textures, etc, it's only fair to compare it to Skyrim since this game was sold as being an upgraded Skyrim engine. I get that wasn't your comparison, it was mine.
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Either way, Skyrim character creation or Fallout 4 character creation, what I meant was that I could do with either in New Vegas. Anything but the default Fallout 3's clunky creation menu and face shapes.

It's a personal preference of mine that appearance customisation is done really well - a lot of times I find myself opening up MMOs and messing with the character creation for a bit, playing for five minutes and then quitting, if only because I like making characters but found the gameplay boring.

Spacemunkey said:
It felt clunky as shit and that sculpting crap was there just so people didn't say it used the same sliders as Skyrim.
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Actually, it's possibly because Sims 4 had it, and that combined with Fallout 4's settlement building could be seen as obviously aiming for the Sims crowd. The "quirkiness" of the writing in the game fits, too.

The lack of sliders were clunky, yes, but the face shapes you could make and the skin textures available were ones I preferred vastly to Skyrim. Plus in recent years, I've started to judge games only if they can stand on their own without mods, mostly because these days I'm too lazy to install them.

Then there's the fact that I would still prefer Fallout 4 to Skyrim, if only because I usually find fantasy settings very dreary, to the point that I even lost interest in The Witcher 3 because of it.
 
On a side note Black Desert Online's character creator puts all to shame, I honestly hope it's something other games copy.

 
Character customization is pretty much the only good thing, I even just launch the game to mess around with it for a while but that might be because I like character design and it helps me feel a face better before drawing it without having to launch 3Dmax or Mudbox.
 
Walpknut said:
Character customization is pretty much the only good thing, I even just launch the game to mess around with it for a while but that might be because I like character design and it helps me feel a face better before drawing it without having to launch 3Dmax or Mudbox.
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Same here. It's a lot easier to use than Skyrim mods that make you navigate through all those different menus. I'll be honest, I don't like Fallout 4, but unlike a lot of people here I think the graphics are nice.
 
the main menu theme, both in e3 reveal and final. it just giving the feels of letting go of your past and brave what problems you currently have, stand fast that there is hope and bright future waiting for even thought you have lost and in Despair event horizon

which the game trying to show you even though the main game content doesnt lived up the standard for a fallout franchise. a true reflection in my real life condition.
it just very beutiful and very uplifting,

Inon zur definitely should get credit for this
 
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Ragemage said:
I guess the couple of things I like about the game is 1. I think the Silver Shroud quest was somewhat decent if only because it gave me some actual damn choices. The second thing I like is the Charisma perk path. I like being able to pacify just about anything with the touch of a button and then make it fight for me/carry my stuff. I also like the Robotics Expert perk which lets me hack into pretty much any robot and turn it into my slave.
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I just wanted to remind you that there is an edit function with posts here. Sometimes we say things in haste or under the influence.

For me the one good aspect of Fallout 4 is the "last played" date listed in steam as December 14th 2015 (I bought it late as I decided I wanted a valid opinion) and knowing it will never change from that.
 
Walpknut said:
My god the Skyrim character creation is just shit, all those fucking menus...
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I will never understand how Bethesda keeps developing PC-unfriendly UI and controls again and again and again, when all the other developers under the same publisher are perfectly capable of making games that run optimally on PC while being PC-friendly with the UI and controls. In fact, make that a go for every single thing - gameplay, writing, graphics, etc. ZeniMax might as well get their other subsidiaries to do Fallout instead - it would at least be better optimised for one.

Fallout 4 was more satisfying as a shooter than Fallout 3, so I'm guessing that they at least have coffee breaks* with the people of id Software and had a moment where they could recieve sane advice on how to make games.

*Only figuratively, because the two developers are in completely different states
 
ZigzagPX4 said:
Fallout 4 was more satisfying as a shooter than Fallout 3, so I'm guessing that they at least have coffee breaks* with the people of id Software and had a moment where they could recieve sane advice on how to make games.
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Some find Doom is fun, others find Fallout is fun, just how some like rock climbing and other like skate-boarding. Adding skate-boarding elements to rock climbing is stupid, adding elements from doom to fallout is equally stupid.
Too bad they didn't try to add Fallout elements to Fallout 4.
 
DirtyOldShoe said:
Some find Doom is fun, others find Fallout is fun, just how some like rock climbing and other like skate-boarding. Adding skate-boarding elements to rock climbing is stupid, adding elements from doom to fallout is equally stupid.
Too bad they didn't try to add Fallout elements to Fallout 4.
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What you talkin about son? Ghouls, Super Mutants and crazy robots are FALLOUT noob!
 
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