The grenade launcher is a grenade launcher

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by iii, Feb 11, 2010.

  1. el_jefe_of_ny

    el_jefe_of_ny Still Mildly Glowing

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    man, do the physics on it. It isnt the single shot, it's the 0 recoil issue.

    You dont get bounce back if you fire too fast. Your arm moves back, you tendons tighten and the gun gets launched forward again. If you fire fast enough, you go past the ability for your body to respond fast enough against the tension. that's why a 45 auto sub would spin people around. It isnt that strong, much less than a long range rifle. MUCH less than a Browning. But the browning had about 22 in a clip and you never fired auto. WEll , my point is 40 shots in a second could do a job on someone or at least be like 45 degrees off of center by the time they were done with 40 shots. A mechanized suit, even if it didnt augment strength, would stabilize and absorb the recoil shock of a minigun.

    Hey, it's my first suggestion that actually makes sense ever on this forum, leave it be.
     
  2. el_jefe_of_ny

    el_jefe_of_ny Still Mildly Glowing

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    the only way to do like 100k rpm electronically is use one of those newly designed Disan (spelling?) designed motors. The other way is air compressed. Dentist drills spin using air compression. No vibration ultra high speed. I would guess this the way?
     
  3. Sander

    Sander This ghoul has seen it all
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    Jul 5, 2003
    Strike for double posting yet again. The edit button exists for a reason.
     
  4. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    there are of course ways to build weapons with a RPM of more then 100.000 and even up to 100.000.000 RPM (hypotheticaly). Though it doesnt work in the traditional way like with the gatling/vulcan principle.

    What I am talking about is the Metal Storm technology:

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8hlj4EbdsE[/youtube]

    (a more acurate describtion of the system)
    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLNuBq0NQJE&NR=1&feature=fvwp
    [/youtube]

    Of course such a weapon would be rather unpractical in the hands of usual infantry since its way to big and way to heavy. But interesting nontheless.
     
  5. el_jefe_of_ny

    el_jefe_of_ny Still Mildly Glowing

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    That multi gun is really peculiar. Is it just a clump of guns?

    I think it looks like crap. I wish they would concentrate on super speed bullets vs insane quantity. Like rail guns vs gatling.

    Now, if you are talking gatling, here's shock and awe right here baby:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4i9_kkg30o&NR=1
     
  6. aenemic

    aenemic Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Jun 4, 2008
    plus, there's really no way to quickly reload.

    sure, that technology looks cool, but I really can't see it ever being used practically.
     
  7. el_jefe_of_ny

    el_jefe_of_ny Still Mildly Glowing

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  8. Thorgrimm

    Thorgrimm A Smooth-Skin

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    Dec 16, 2003



    Cheers, Thorgrimm
     
  9. el_jefe_of_ny

    el_jefe_of_ny Still Mildly Glowing

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    Jan 6, 2010
    The army has 9mm firing mini guns since well its about 9 years now. My friend used and trained with them. They have 500 rounds in a box and you can link 2 electronic spinning barrels to them. It hardly has any kick if you use two hands on one, some wavering if you hold each one in a hand. It is designed to confront approximately 16 enemies in a surprise situation if the soldier is alone as a last ditch weapon. it is not meant to be fired in a normal formation. It can be used also on retreat. Combat Engineers with special forces training are allowed to use them. You can carry up to 1000 rounds but this is heavy.

    My friend is actually a special forces person. he never used the items in combat as they are not stealthy and never fought in a large group only 1-6 people. He said it was auto-jizz though. He fired around 22 shots in a pull. it just keeps popping them out. not like minigun speed, you can hear the shots individually but super quick. I never have seen this gun mentioned. I assume this is because everyone says they were in special forces but truthfully, 1 in thousands are/were.

    I asked about grenade mounted launchers. He said it was on more basic infrantry and never saw one on a car that was actually going into combat. He said m-60's were more used still and 50 caliber's. makes sense I guess. What the names of those 9mm mini mini guns were I am unsure. HE did say that it is the best close range weapon he ever tried out.

    I asked about the size and he said about the 15 inches long front to back at most maybe less. everything was compact and the barrel spun. I have to edit again as I keep remembering odd things. They were big pistols, lightweight. The chain of bullets were plastic and fell apart and disposable. The ammo boxes looked like amunitions boxes and fit onto your belt. I wonder if some mid-westerner from the USA knows about them. :) I always find an answer from those guys.


    I am unsure if this had one hole or a few holes to shoot out from. I think it actually rotated/spun but the front had one hole. I know they had batteries inside themselves. Very much like hand power drill. I guess it doesnt need a lot of battery to keep a 9mm firing.

    I dont want to ask too much. He told me all about it one day years ago over the phone. He got hit by claymore mine and recovered eventually, and killed many people before and after that injury. I dont ask him shit as it is real stuff not sensational story bullshit like most of us are into.
     
  10. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Pfff what! No some look cool ... somehow :P





    I think one use would be on ships and vehicles as anti-rocket weapons (isnt it mentioned in the video somewhere?). It has somewhat the principle of a flachette.

    Against large concentrations of infantry or light armored vehicles and if filled with shaped charges even against heavy armor it could prove to be devastating. I think reload time isnt that long since you probably can reload it somewhat like a mortar or from behind like a gun.
     
  11. el_jefe_of_ny

    el_jefe_of_ny Still Mildly Glowing

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    I like the top one. the bottom one looks like Army classic bad taste, 1990+ pansy era. Big fuckin huge helmets which are always useless as people get shot in the face actually, huge body armour on those not fighting (people fighting dont unless ambushed, the actual people on the hunt to kill use fatigues and hats). That tan color and smooth contours are so butt ugly and soft looking.

    Now, the top one, that's freakin sweet. Nice blue/grey/black. that's badass. Those metal ribs around the gun, those are nice Star wars looking shits. That makes me feel unretarded for signing up to kill civillians and soldiers while I sleep in disgusting dust and llama vomit people call a country.
     
  12. draeke

    draeke It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Dec 2, 2005
    Ok, el_jefe:

    Ya, I'm going to have to call bs on this one. I know and work with group guys and had you ever even known one you would know beyond 'special forces person.' Let's see, I will say 19th Group and you will say?

    This is clearly bullshit since I went through the Armorer's course in 2005 and learned how to fix every small arms weapon (meaning everything beyond machine gun before I commissioned, so this would include the supposed 9mm mini-gun) in the US Army arsenal, and your first language is clearly not english:

    The army has 9mm firing mini guns since well its about 9 years now. My friend used and trained with them. They have 500 rounds in a box and you can link 2 electronic spinning barrels to them. It hardly has any kick if you use two hands on one, some wavering if you hold each one in a hand. It is designed to confront approximately 16 enemies in a surprise situation if the soldier is alone as a last ditch weapon. it is not meant to be fired in a normal formation. It can be used also on retreat.

    "on retreat," unbelievable and this is even better, "I never have seen this gun mentioned. I assume this is because everyone says they were in special forces but truthfully, 1 in thousands are/were."

    Your basic English classes in Chechnya or wherever have done you well.

    This is even better for anyone who's been downrange in the past 10-15 years.

    "I asked about grenade mounted launchers. He said it was on more basic infrantry and never saw one on a car that was actually going into combat. He said m-60's were more used still and 50 caliber's. makes sense I guess. What the names of those 9mm mini mini guns were I am unsure. HE did say that it is the best close range weapon he ever tried out. "

    Ya, "more basic infantry, and never saw one on a car." Ok, son they are TRUCKS and more specifically they are HMMWV's (Humvee's) and the MK19 is mounted on quite a few more trucks than "more basic infantry," so seriously dude if you want to troll you better pick sites other than NMA

    Oh yah, the confusion you had on the "auto-jizz, and about the size [he said about the 15 inches long front to back at most maybe less]"

    Seriously, though the last thing; you said, "I am unsure if this had one hole or a few holes to shoot out from." Ya, well good luck with that.

    Go find another board to sage. NMA will call you out every day.

    Plz. don't strike 3 me for this. I'm pretty stressed about my 2 strikes already!