The Guns and Ammo Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Kalessin, May 4, 2006.

  1. UniversalWolf

    UniversalWolf eaten by a grue.

    Aug 28, 2005
    Well, it took me ages but I finally snapped a few shots of some of the pieces I'm planning on selling. I apologize for the lousy quality of the pictures. I knew the camera on my phone was not very good, but it turned out to be really exceptionally bad for taking pictures of shotguns. And that's what I have here, three 12-gauge shotguns. The rifles are still to come, and then maybe later I'll show some of the items I'm not selling.

    1) Winchester Model 12 pump, made in U.S.A.:





    This is a nice, simple, light shotgun.

    2) Remington 12-gauge pump, stamped MADE IN JAPAN on barrel:



    This one's solid, but rather heavy.

    3) Remington Auto 12, stamped MADE IN JAPAN on the barrel:





    Quite a heavy gun, with a little filigree work. Any suggestions as far as value would be appreciated, because I have no idea, really.
     
  2. mobucks

    mobucks As a goof Orderite

    May 22, 2010
    wild guess

    350 each for the top two.

    4-500 for the fancy one on the bottom.

    might be a little high.
     
  3. WillisPDunlevey

    WillisPDunlevey Mildly Dipped

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    Feb 2, 2010
    I normally see Sears/pennys/woolworth 12 Gauge pumps for $200, name brands like those are $250-300.

    The Auto loader (browning patent) is worth more, but it looks like its got some pitting (or is that engraving on the top rear)
     
  4. UniversalWolf

    UniversalWolf eaten by a grue.

    Aug 28, 2005
    Definitely engraving. It's got little flourishes all over. There's hardly a mark on that one, and wood is glossy like a mirror. It looks quite nice, actually.

    I'm working on tracking down a better camera, but I'll post some more tonight or tomorrow regardless.

    Thanks for the information. I appreciate it.
     
  5. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
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    May 27, 2004
    Seems like I forgot to post my newest addition to the arsenal.

    A CZ 452 FS. Pretty and great for training marksmanship fundamentals.

    Pics aren't mine, but it's the same thing, really:

     
  6. WillisPDunlevey

    WillisPDunlevey Mildly Dipped

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    Feb 2, 2010
    I love Manlicher stocks!

    I really really want one.

    There is a Zastava that is being sold in the USA for a reasonable price that I might grab.


    IIRC- Don Johnson used a Manlicher stocked Ruger M77 in "A Boy and His Dog"
     
  7. UniversalWolf

    UniversalWolf eaten by a grue.

    Aug 28, 2005
    Here's another pic of the Browning so you can see the engraving (well, a little better anyway):



    And then we have a 6mm Remington Model 700. This is the gun I shot my first buck with. And my second and third on the same weekend:



    And finally a Savage Stevens Model 35 .22. This was my first gun. It's got it's share of wear and tear from all the times I dragged it through the woods, but it's in pretty good shape functionally speaking. It would be good for a youngster.

     
  8. Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude

    Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Jul 9, 2004
    UW's shotguns motivated me to go back to my original quest of getting a good 12g pump (which originally ended up with me getting an SKS, three handguns, an AR, and finally a garand).

    Yesterday I hit up a gun store sale and left with this monster ($528 after tax+nics).



    Receiver closeup:




    @Sua

    Love those CZ .22s, that stock is beautiful.
     
  9. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
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    May 27, 2004
    You forgot the bayonet Phil. No 590A1 without bayonet, goddamn it!
     
  10. Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude

    Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Jul 9, 2004
    An update on the 590A1, after stripping and cleaning it I noticed a big ring of rust in the chamber and a bad gouge deep in the barrel. Two hours with a copper brush and the surface rust is gone, but a nasty ring of pitting remains.

    Called up support, sent some pictures, and Friday I received the replacement barrel... which also had the same fucking ring of rust in it. Before even contacting them again, another barrel arrives on Saturday (somehow they doubled the order), and you guessed it, this one has rust/pitting in the damned chamber too.

    Here's a pic of the first replacement barrel:




    Called up support again this morning, and I'm told to send back the two fucked up replacement barrels and they'll send another one, but my guess is they had a bad run of the things at some point and have a pile of them sitting at the factory, all probably suffering from the same problem. If I had gone with the 20" version I probably wouldn't be having to deal with this bullshit right now, so you were right again Sua. CS has been helpful, but they need to fire whoever is in charge of quality control. I'll post another update when the next barrel arrives.


    Moral of the story: Remington isn't the only one whose QC has gone to shit in the past few years.
     
  11. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
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    May 27, 2004
    Well that's a bummer. Sounds like they're trying to do right by you though. I hope they can sort it out for you.
     
  12. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
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    May 27, 2004
    And if they don't do right by you (within an acceptable time span), just document everything & plaster the pictures all over the internet. This kind of stuff is very popular. ;)
     
  13. rhinemetall

    rhinemetall First time out of the vault

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    Nov 21, 2013
  14. WillisPDunlevey

    WillisPDunlevey Mildly Dipped

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    Feb 2, 2010
    Wow... this thread has not been updated in a long time... Hmmm I just got a gen 2.5 Glock 21 (.45 cal) for $350. It has some holster wear, but is in excellent shape.
     
  15. UniversalWolf

    UniversalWolf eaten by a grue.

    Aug 28, 2005
    I sold my Browning Light-12 shotgun, my 6mm Remington Model 700 rifle, and my Winchester Model 12 shotgun. I had no trouble finding buyers - they came to me! One was my cousin who was visiting, and another was my neighbor.

    At this point I have enough space in my little gun cabinet for everything I have left, so I'm not in a rush to sell anything else.
     
  16. JohnnyEgo

    JohnnyEgo Mostly Harmless

    400
    Oct 22, 2007
    Sig Tac Ops with most of the parts I hated replaced:







    Of course, I bought it to tack a bunch of stuff on it, so here it is all dressed up:





    I grabbed a stack of 50' center of mass targets and put them out at about 50' (16 yards, so more like 48'). This is my first target from function check and getting acclimated to the sites. Plenty of room for improvement on my part, but the gun did well enough.


    It ran pretty well through a hundred rounds of Winchester 230gr ball, and successive targets got a little tighter as I became familiar with the gun.

    Finally, I ran 24 rounds suppressed through it. Shooting a handgun with a silencer on it will quickly disabuse one of any Hollywood preconceptions. The can is big enough in diameter that it blocks the sites, and as it heats up, it creates a mirage that further complicates aiming. So you mostly point it at the target as though you were pointing a broomstick.



    The Sig hiccupped on 3 of 8 rounds out of the first magazine. Would not cycle the slide far enough back to reset the trigger twice, and would not fully return to battery once. Then it seemed to find it's groove, and functioned as expected for the remaining two magazines. Despite a rocky beginning, I was very pleased/surprised to see how tight it shot with the silencer on it.

    Overall, I am happy enough with it. It has a few features that mildly irritate me. The Sig 'profile' adds some bulk to the front of the slide, making it not compatible with any of the railed 1911 holsters I have in leather or Kydex. I hadn't planned to carry it or compete with it, but it would have been nice if I could have. It has about as good of a trigger as one can get with a series 80 firing pin safety mechanism. I could have it removed, but I don't want to compromise it much more than I already have.

    The grips on it were also 'different'. They occupied a size between conventional grips and thin grips, but were magwell-cut, which was nice. They appear to be of some type of injection-molded plastic, and were very grippy. While they are no doubt very tactical, this is just a fun gun for me, so I swapped them out with some quilted maple grips that are the opposite of 'tactical', but look pretty to me.


    I like the gun, and I hope it will prove to be a reliable silencer host as it wears in. I am glad I got this Sig, but I doubt I'd buy another of their 1911s based on the slide profile, series 80 system, and external extractor. One is enough. I do imagine it will get a lot more use as a silencer host than my 220 Super Match, because I have no qualms with running it hard or scratching the hell out of the finish.

    A final shot of my single action Sig family:
     
  17. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
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    May 27, 2004
    My main gripe with the original Sig 1911s is the serrated trigger that just didn't feel right for me.

    That Osprey sure adds some bulk to your gun btw.
    I hope it's suppression characteristics are equally big. ;)
     
  18. .Pixote.

    .Pixote. Carbon Dated and Proud
    Modder

    Sep 14, 2009
    Johnny Ego - is that a silencer?

     
  19. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
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    May 27, 2004
    Yes, three of them.

    (though personally I prefer the term suppressor, since silencer makes you believe it'll silence your gun, which it won't)
     
  20. JohnnyEgo

    JohnnyEgo Mostly Harmless

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    Oct 22, 2007
    SuA answered it for me. In terms of function, it is indeed a 'suppressor' of sound, not a 'silencer'. And what may or may not be obvious is that the sound is much more 'suppressed' in front of the device rather than from the operating position.

    In my country, (the devil,) our regulatory agency refers to the device as a 'silencer'. Much of that is for historic reasons, based on the original Maxim patents and the popularity of the term in the 1920s. However, since the BATFE are the ones who determine whether or not I can possess the device, and they insist on referring to it as a 'silencer' on all my applications, I have a tendency to do the same. Or, when I am typing on my cell phone, I just call it a 'can', as it is faster to type.