The most hated family in america

Tannhauser said:
Smoke_Jaquar, please endeavour to write coherent posts.
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I edited the last post after asking Stag where he was from, and "proved yet ?" is adressed to Elissar. Reposting here then. No need for attitude, ok?


Ughh....Stag, where are you from? I bet you're from the US, UK or AUS, correct ? Well, I'm saying that all these atheistic, gnostic, agnostic, metodist, adventist, calvinian stuff are what you get when you mess with good old fashion nation wide religion.

But, when the country's leading Christians (be it Catholic or Ortodox) go crazy, and preach about time you meet, like in the US, it's no wonder you're an atheist... you just see the christians around you going crazy and preaching the bible as FACT, right Stag? What do you do, you say: I don't need all this crap, I'm going atheistical, you preaching bastards!

Well, now, if you were born in a country where people had better things to do, maybe you would have been a silent christian, not going to church but never ever questioning your religion. Maybe, right?

I think it's ok to beleive in what you to beleive, Stag, but the fact that so many westerners don't have God in their hearts is a true sign that self-liberties have gone to far. When everybody has a house, two cars, food on the table and places to work, there's not much room for God, is it? That's why muslims are so faithfull, because most of them are dirt poor and the only help they can get if from above. That's why they are so easy to manipulate by religion.

The West has no God, and the East only has God.

Probably, Europe (without islands and Russia) remains the only moderate, Center.

I hope you understand where I'm coming from.
 
Elissar said:
Or of course you could just be another asshole trolling these forums trying to elicit a response from your mental superiors.

But you could always prove me wrong...
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Smoke_Jaguar said:
Proved yet?
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I didn't miss the point that it was addressed to Elissar, but I fail to see the point. Unless you are addressing the fact that you managed to restrain posting for forty minutes after Elissar accusing you of trying to elicit a response, which still doesn't make all that much sense.

Smoke_Jaguar said:
I think it's ok to beleive in what you to beleive, Stag, but the fact that so many westerners don't have God in their hearts is a true sign that self-liberties have gone to far. When everybody has a house, two cars, food on the table and places to work, there's not much room for God, is it? That's why muslims are so faithfull, because most of them are dirt poor and the only help they can get if from above. That's why they are so easy to manipulate by religion.
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Really is there any point in conversing with you? Your ignorance and baseless assumptions on Christianity and Islam is frankly appalling.
 
Tannhauser said:
Really is there any point in conversing with you? Your ignorance and baseless assumptions on Christianity and Islam is frankly appalling.
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Yah, ok, and posting contentless flames is better. From a Moderator I expected better. How about I call you ignorant? Would that make it better...Jeez.

I am pouring my guts out and you guys just bounce off my arguments by insults and flaming.
 
Smoke said:
Yah, ok, and posting contentless flames is better. From a Moderator I expected better. How about I call you ignorant? Would that make it better...Jeez.

I am pouring my guts out and you guys just bounce off my arguments by insults and flaming.
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In the same way that you ignore any and every argument made and just rehash your completely unfounded statements. In effect, you are stating to everyone here that they really do believe in God but are just repressing it 'cause they get preached to.
What a bunch of fucking horseshit. The only time I ever got preached to was by a bunch of Mormons a few months back, and I haven't believed in a God for all of my life.
Do not make baseless assumptions about people you refuse to alter at any time and then act surprised when someone calls you ignorant.
 
Yeah man...that wasn't the message I wanted to send, but if that's what it's come off as, let it rest in peace. Guess Tannhauser called in the ModSquad.

Obviously, this disscution got horribly scarred from the beggining, as all the people that responded in some way or another are non-beleivers. If there would have been a balanced mix, maybe it would have turned out different if some of you had some faith, for you are incredibly stubborn about this issue. Fine. No more religion discussions.

Oh, and about those mormons, we get a lot of mormons here from the states. Man, I tell, we pass no opportunity to not make fun of them. Plus, they're easy to spot, since all the bastards wear black pants and white shirts. That and that they travel in packs.
 
At this point, the thread doesn't have anything to do with faith.

Watching you dig yourself deeper and deeper into bigotry, whiny apologetics and, lastly, extremely silly accusations after you've successfully ignored all of the arguments presented to you so far is a comedy goldmine.

Please continue.
 
Smoke_Jaguar said:
Yeah man...that wasn't the message I wanted to send, but if that's what it's come off as, let it rest in peace. Guess Tannhauser called in the ModSquad.

Obviously, this disscution got horribly scarred from the beggining, as all the people that responded in some way or another are non-beleivers. If there would have been a balanced mix, maybe it would have turned out different if some of you had some faith, for you are incredibly stubborn about this issue. Fine. No more religion discussions.
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Oh yeah, we're the stubborn ones. We're the people trying to make blanket statements about a group of people we know nothing about.
 
So many? Most people I've met are Catholic or Christian in some form or another.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_united_states

Hmm smoke, maybe you are right! There is so little religion in America, it makes me want to puke.

The mormons I've met are actually nicer than most other Christians. They've never given me any shit, and I've talked to a lot of them.

Yah, ok, and posting contentless flames is better. From a Moderator I expected better. How about I call you ignorant? Would that make it better...Jeez.

I am pouring my guts out and you guys just bounce off my arguments by insults and flaming.
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To your first statement, I'd like to direct you to the next post you made.

Oh, and about those mormons, we get a lot of mormons here from the states. Man, I tell, we pass no opportunity to not make fun of them. Plus, they're easy to spot, since all the bastards wear black pants and white shirts. That and that they travel in packs.
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Hm, looks like you've been dealt a bad hand in life. People accuse you of all sorts of shit without any reason.

And to your second statement, I offer advice. Stop calling debate "flaming". No one here (besides you) have made any truly inflamatory statements, or baseless ones at all. The most insulting thing said to you was by me, when I called you a "fucking monotheist", which was, of course, a response to a statement made by you, calling me a "fucking atheist".


Tough shit, Smoke.
 
Wooz said:
Ziltoid/Sander, same thing.
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Lies! I shall summon forth the Planet Smasher to...smash your planet!

Now bring me some coffee.

PS: it amuses me to no end that people still insist that a lack of religion is the source of a lot of evil. 'Cause all of those terrorist attacks didn't have no religious motivation, nosirree.
 
To the best of my knowledge, there has never been an "Anti-Holy War", either. Except on Bizarro World.
 
Smoke_Jaguar said:
Big T said:
I do not believe in "nothing" I just don't believe in anything.
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Logic class 101.
One doesn't belive in anything.

One belives in nothing.
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On the same level:

One belives in God.

One must be Christian (of every flavour).
And also islamic (again, of every flavour).
And also Jewish.
And also belonging to countless other religions where "God" is used in place of a specific deitie's name.
All of these belive in "God", so you must belong to all of these groups.

Just because I don't believe in God does not mean I ascribe to every doctrine that also does not.

Stag said:
To the best of my knowledge, there has never been an "Anti-Holy War"
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Um, the USSR? Unless you count Stalinism as a religion.
 
The State's persecution and attempted elimination of religion, I would assume.
 
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