The Ultimate Movie Thread of Ultimate Destiny

Courier said:
zegh8578 said:
Courier, yes, I am realizing, and I suspected from the beginning - it's just that the movie did a terrible job at conveying that.
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Not really, if anything the movie was actually clearer than the actual live show.

Still didn't like it though. I want to strangle whoever was in charge of casting decisions for that film.
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Maybe I failed at reading more between the lines, cus I was sortof waiting for it, but was left with a confusing sensation that the cop was obsessed with arresting this guy. During his final song, before jumping off, he gets close to it, but even then seems to revert to showing remorse mostly for not being able to apprehend him.
If I cared enough, I'd watch it again to make sure :D

And yes, Russel Crowe should stick to serenading his little core of dedicated fans :I
 
zegh8578 said:
was left with a confusing sensation that the cop was obsessed with arresting this guy.
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He was, that's the whole point. His perfect sense of justice drove him to become obsessed with arresting a man who was essentially the epitome of "goodness".

Maybe you're just reading too much into it. These kinds of characters were pretty common back in Hugo's day.
 
Courier said:
zegh8578 said:
was left with a confusing sensation that the cop was obsessed with arresting this guy.
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He was, that's the whole point. His perfect sense of justice drove him to become obsessed with arresting a man who was essentially the epitome of "goodness".

Maybe you're just reading too much into it. These kinds of characters were pretty common back in Hugo's day.
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Yeah, I probably am. I got the jist of all that from the story and plot, but focusing on the words of the songs, I got confused, and likely for taking the lyrics way too litterally.
In the cops prior song, he is swearing to the stars that he will arrest this one guy. Allready I found his dedication to be far beyond any kind of credibility :D
But yeah, maybe... his song depicts his general ambition, rather than sickly obsession with ONE broken parole. It cannot possibly be Paris' first broken parole.
 
zegh8578 said:
rather than sickly obsession with ONE broken parole. It cannot possibly be Paris' first broken parole.
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I can't remember if the movie mentions this or not, but in the book it's explained that the reason Valjean's sentence was so long (19 years) is because he made several escape attempts but kept getting caught, so it wasn't really just breaking parole that made Javert dislike Valjean so much. In his eyes he's a hardcore criminal that deserves to be brought to justice.

Plus he kept Javert from arresting Fantine, which grated with his sense of justice even more, and then managed to successfully escape after confessing he was the real Valjean. I'm pretty sure that up until this point Javert hadn't really been actively searching for Valjean, let alone obsessing over him. He just got pushed over the edge.
 
Courier said:
I can't remember if the movie mentions this or not, but in the book it's explained that the reason Valjean's sentence was so long (19 years) is because he made several escape attempts but kept getting caught, so it wasn't really just breaking parole that made Javert dislike Valjean so much. In his eyes he's a hardcore criminal that deserves to be brought to justice.

Plus he kept Javert from arresting Fantine, which grated with his sense of justice even more, and then managed to successfully escape after confessing he was the real Valjean. I'm pretty sure that up until this point Javert hadn't really been actively searching for Valjean, let alone obsessing over him. He just got pushed over the edge.
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That makes sense. The movie contains only song, apart from small comments muttered here and there, so it doesn't delve too deeply into certain topics.

I suspect that it would have discredited Valjeans innocence, in front of cinema audiences, if justifications for his long sentence were provided.
This is something that often irks me with most cinema, that urge to simplify things. People should be trusted more.

I haven't seen the "Kon Tiki" movie, nor do I have much desire to, because I fear it will be simplified to the point of dumb.
I saw a clip from the movie, where Thor Heyerdahl is talking to one of his critics. This is common knowledge for most people interested in Thor's adventures, that many of his community doubted his hypotheses, and pushed him to prove himself - but the movie obviously condenses this: Into one angry, spiteful, unpolite - in other words - one evil researcher, sneering, laughing and mocking Thor.

The scene REEKS of "He is the bad guy. Get it? And Thor is good. Just wait and see!"
 
I recently watched movie "The last Stand". Arnold is literally back and better than ever, he returns in top and old form returning to his action hero throne with humor, grit and awesome fire-power. This is Schwarzenegger's best and most fun movie since True Lies. Arnold Schwarzenegger gives a great, gritty and awesome performance.
 
Lancelonq said:
I recently watched movie "The last Stand". Arnold is literally back and better than ever, he returns in top and old form returning to his action hero throne with humor, grit and awesome fire-power. This is Schwarzenegger's best and most fun movie since True Lies. Arnold Schwarzenegger gives a great, gritty and awesome performance.
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Most of the moviegoers disagreed. Good to see someone liked it though. I may watch it soon.
 
It was a nice movie but the I wanted to slap the idiot who choose the gun loadouts for the good guys.
I can stomach Holywood gun combat (bullet proof car doors and stormtrooper marksmanship) but when good guys are shooting pistols at carbine / black rifle equipped opponents (and matching their volume) and running around willy nilly on the battlefield, I started to chant "fast forward".

Other than the horrible mid ranged combat scenes, the short range stuff (indoors/pistols and so on) and the classic action movie stuff like Arny's entrance to the diner were decently enjoyable.
 
I love Arnie, Stallone, even Lungdren. I'm glad these fellas are going back to the old days of just good old (haha pun) action movies.

I watched Meek's Cutoff last night on netflix. It prompted me to immediately get my hands on Oregon Trail 5th Edition, a game I loved as a kid. Anyway the movie wasn't all that great from a survival perspective. There are a lot more survival movies out there that do survival better. But I think this movie was more about "trust" than survival. A lot of people seemed to complain that there was a blatant cliffhanger at the end of the movie. At first I was a bit disappointed as well, but, thinking about it, the ending made the movie effectively ask the viewer whether he/she also trusts the character whom [spoiler:1881732ec1] the wagon train is relying on to find water. [/spoiler:1881732ec1]
All in all I think this aspect redeemed the movie. Not many movies do anything like this.
 
Wintermind said:
That's a real classic.
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Yeah, it's pretty great -- everything from the crazy music to the stark cinematography and the setting in Vienna, plus superb acting and an excellent story with a perfect ending. I'll have to watch it again in a year or two.

It may have been even better than Argo.

/sarcasm
 
I think Cloud Atlas works as a movie, but the message breaks down in the end: "We should be nice to one another... because we'll be reincarnated and reap what we sow."

OK, I don't believe in reincarnation so I guess I should go ahead and rape and pillage.

Also, stupid moon goof in the final scene.
 
DammitBoy said:
The sky tower from Oblivion. I worked six months on this set. It turned out pretty fucking awesome...
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You worked on Oblivion, eh? The ads look decent. That's the first movie that has come out in a long time I think I might go see.
 
UniversalWolf said:
DammitBoy said:
The sky tower from Oblivion. I worked six months on this set. It turned out pretty fucking awesome...
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You worked on Oblivion, eh? The ads look decent. That's the first movie that has come out in a long time I think I might go see.
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I hope it's good. Just got back from GIJOE II and man did it suck really bad. My sets looked great, but the movie sucks donkey cock.

Worked on the underground prison, fort sumter, the cliff fight scene set, and the tokyo dojo. The dojo turned out really well.
 
Sub-Human said:
Watched Die Hard 5. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Oh you poor bastard, do you need a hug?

I lasted half way through before I walked out and demanded a refund, the first film is a classic manly Christmas film, the 2nd is a meh action film, 3 is well watchable, but the two recent ones are just awful.

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Now one book I would like turning into a film is, The Starts are My Destination. Thats something that could be done on a small budget and done well.
 
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