The worst location in fallout 2?

Discussion in 'General Fallout Discussion' started by Naitor295, Jan 3, 2021.

  1. xaleromy

    xaleromy First time out of the vault

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    Jan 18, 2023
    I'd say the area between San Francisco and Navarro, I probably died a hundred of times trying to reach the base alone xD

    Jokes aside, probably San Francisco or Vault 15 + Squat. For Vault 15 maybe was just me, I tried so badly to find agreements with NCR but never managed to. I felt dumb af. And not being able to "save" the doctor after killing all the raiders... :/

    Oh, let's not forget about Arroyo. Since it is our village, I think it should have had a bigger impact... I mean, you start there, do the few quests available which grant some easy EXP to begin, and probably never come back for anything (except if you bring the GECK back before going to the oil rig).
     
  2. Slaughter Manslaught

    Slaughter Manslaught Vault Senior Citizen

    Dec 11, 2006
    I think there's good argument for NCR/Shady Sands being one of the weakest locations.

    I mean, New Reno is a literal mobster-infested hellhole and its full of quests, cool characters, multiple areas and all sorts of cool knick-knacks and secrets.

    NCR's shadow is cast across the whole game and its implied to be this big thing.
    Hell, it is THE Big thing of the West Coast. And yet... NCR is actually pretty underwhelming as a location. No big buildings, or even a large city. It mostly looks like Vault City mixed with original Shady Sands, but less sterile. Granted, there's a reason Vault City and NCR look similar - because they both come from vaults and use the same tech, like the sandcrete walls.

    There's just... no pizzaz to it.

    Even the map making is weak, the ilusion of size just isn't there. It works for VC because VC is supposed to feel small, but NCR has a popullation of 3000 and is probably the biggest city in the West Coast except maybe for New Reno and The Hub, probably.

    Why the NCR Congress building looks smaller than the Vault City council building?

    It doesn't even have its own soundtrack, it literally reuses The Hub's track from FO1.
     
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  3. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Antediluvian as Feck

    Nov 26, 2007
    If there is anyplace to be the weakest of all—it should be Shady Sands, should it not? That would all but certainly be their intention for it, as the typical first foray into the outside world.
     
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  4. Slaughter Manslaught

    Slaughter Manslaught Vault Senior Citizen

    Dec 11, 2006
    In 2, not in 1. FO1 Shady Sands is a typical starter town.
    FO2 Shady feels really weak compared to New Reno or Vault City.
     
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  5. Dotan

    Dotan First time out of the vault

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    Jul 17, 2022
    Klamath and its gazillion of rats's quest

    That place is hell of a lot more boring than anything in the game.


    I also disliked the oil rig

    San fran had its fair share of problems but i didnt think it was that bad
     
  6. Slaughter Manslaught

    Slaughter Manslaught Vault Senior Citizen

    Dec 11, 2006
    To be honest, Klamath is supposed to be an ass-end town.
    Honestly, I actually like Klamath, design-wise. Looks pretty decent for a ratty town, has an appropriate "appearance of size", has lots of quests, lots of dialogue, many choices, easy but plentiful combat, good loot to find around, etc. Its a pretty decent starter town with plenty to do, especially once you get the Gecko Skinning Perk. Might be better than Shady Sands which is pretty atmospheric, but has like two real quests (Radscorpion Cave and Rescue Tandi).
     
  7. Dotan

    Dotan First time out of the vault

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    Jul 17, 2022

    Quantity vs quality. Shady sands is way better executed than klamath

    Compare the brahmin rustle to the khans problem or the rat cave with the radscorpion thing (which even have a pacifist option) and its clear who is the winner

    Shady sands also have 2 talking heads and a very good introduction for the game.
     
  8. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign ⛧卐⛧ [REDACTED]

    Apr 1, 2005
    San Fran is the worst I will die on this hill.
     
  9. laclongquan

    laclongquan Boned Hunter of Sister

    722
    Jan 11, 2008
    This thread prove that gamers just plain hate tutorial area, the way they jumped on Temple of Trials.
     
  10. The_Proletarian

    The_Proletarian Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
    Staff Member Admin

    Mar 15, 2012
    NCR is underwhelming and a bit sucky IMO.

    e: Also Broken Hills right? With muh racism and stuff.
     
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  11. MELON_FUCKER34

    MELON_FUCKER34 First time out of the vault

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    Feb 3, 2023
    Modoc is fucking trash man the only thing that is fun there is exploding that toilet and that ghost farm quest all the others suck tho. You can't even fuck bitches without getting married there.
     
  12. The_Proletarian

    The_Proletarian Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
    Staff Member Admin

    Mar 15, 2012
    There are some cool things in Modoc. What about those omeletts?
     
  13. laclongquan

    laclongquan Boned Hunter of Sister

    722
    Jan 11, 2008
    Modoc is the only location you can get a shit bath and a marriage.
     
  14. MELON_FUCKER34

    MELON_FUCKER34 First time out of the vault

    39
    Feb 3, 2023
    It is also the only location where they lie to you so you help them save their pathetic sorry drought suffering asses. Fuck Jo.
     
  15. MELON_FUCKER34

    MELON_FUCKER34 First time out of the vault

    39
    Feb 3, 2023
    Ok but like that and the toilet blowing quest is the only good things there. Even frisco has some good shit like the vagrants, the emperor being a computer and those pornstar hubologists.
     
  16. laclongquan

    laclongquan Boned Hunter of Sister

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    Jan 11, 2008
    Omelette will 100% restore you if you eat it with your not full HP. So breaking in the chicken coop and kill the chicken is not recommended.
     
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  17. MELON_FUCKER34

    MELON_FUCKER34 First time out of the vault

    39
    Feb 3, 2023
    But the xp tho!
     
  18. The_Proletarian

    The_Proletarian Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
    Staff Member Admin

    Mar 15, 2012
    Agree! I just did Modoc and I left that thing alive. Wouldn't want to upset anyone.
     
  19. Iprovidelittlepianos

    Iprovidelittlepianos Water Chip? Been There, Done That

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    May 12, 2020
    You people are sick. The good karma route is to free the Deathclaw and allow her to take revenge on her oppressors!
     
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  20. Risewild

    Risewild Antediluvian as Feck
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    Good Karma route? Classic Fallouts don't have good/bad karma. That's a Bethesda system! :yuck: