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Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Throatpunch, Nov 9, 2016.
If Bernie is Lenin.
Then Trump is Hitler.
And Hillary is the fucking Antichrist.
Lulz! If only. He managed to get shit done.
Bernie is far too incompetent to be Lenin.
And no man can live up to the Fuehrer
Well is Trump being manipulated and played by his aides and background boys? If so, he's Hitler all right.
It's true though. The Night of the Long Knives was triggered by the rumor-mongering of both Himmler and Goering, as well as the rivalry between the SA and SS. Both of them fought each other for the top jobs, with Goering handing control of the gestapo to Himmler so he could become an important part of the airforce after Hitler made clear that he was going to rebuild the army. Hell, one of the reasons the SA were taken down was because Hitler was subordinate to the army, which disliked the SA's wish to become the army.
Can't wait to see how the media spins a good thing into a somehow negative thing for the next four years.
It's gonna be a long time, ain't it?
Basically free travel inside the US, while making it expensive to leave outside the US. Hmm... don't know if this is good or bad. Businesses reliant on foreign labor could go bankrupt.
Which is a good thing.
Not necessarily. We wouldn't want the US people to lose their I-phones and cars.
Oh well in that case.
This is just fundamentally dishonesty in understanding the actually arguments presented forth by reformers. If you have people whom are eating terrible and we know the poorer people are the more junk food is normally attributed to such a life style, then they're probably the same bunch whom can't afford decent medical insurance and could most likely go to the hospital and default on the bill which is then on tax payer money anyways. Now if we had universal healthcare, Then the metabolic disease that come with the life style and while i agree we should try to at least provide other solutions to stop the obesity issue entirety, but that isn't going to happen right now. What would happen at this moment is if we had universal health care, they're diabetes for instance could be dealt with so it doesn't lead to a limb being amputated which is pretty expensive and its emotionally traumatizing nevermind the fact that they're on SS when it may not even had to lead to it.
Do you know how many people who get useful degrees still can't find jobs and have nothing to save off those student debt loans they got from the feds? You know that just comes back to us right? You have so many ways to be able to purchase these type of things. One is to cut military spending and remove the dozens of bases we have around the world, Another is taxing wall-street speculation. That alone could provide universal health care and college for everyone and if you disagree you're just plain retarded and the main reason why you're losing out of new additions to your political beliefs. I'm all for getting rid of genders studies or any other useless degree in terms of public universities and colleges but not so much about a degree in cardiologist.
Cutting military spending makes us weak. I have already elaborated on the need to have bases in foreign lands, essentially to provide protection to our allies and preserve our first strike capabilities. Even were we to cut military spending, that stops the debt cycle from continuing. It is not like if we cut military spending, we suddenly have in our possession a new money tree.
USEFUL. If the degree is worthwhile, then it is going to have employment potential. If your degree has LOW or ZERO employment POTENTIAL, then by definition, that degree is USELESS.
Jesus Christ, a bag of pre-cut/pre-cooked broccoli can be purchased at your nearest Wally world for less than a fucking Whopper, which averages around $5. If a person can afford to eat at Mc Fatties then they certainly can afford to cook a bag of broccoli. And before you go screaming 'Food Deserts', if people are too fucking lazy to figure out how to get to a supermarket that is 1 to 2 miles away then, seriously, those people need to sort their shit out. If people can afford to buy dumb ass shit like RIMS, stereo systems, and pimp out their rides and they cannot afford to eat healthy, they are fucking morons.
The same idiots showing off their latest purchases or latest concert or baseball game pics and scream about being too poor to pay rent? So many credit slaves who are in those situations because they are either too stupid to learn or too lazy to apply basic money management skills. These are not lies, they are problems that need to be addressed.
Your whole argument comes down to we need to take care of people who cannot even be bothered to take care of THEMSELVES.
So what? They have segregated slums full of poor lazy fuckers? I get it, they're lazy and the US shouldn't care for them. But that doesn't stop the fact that they're poor and living worse lives. It would look shitty as fuck if the US has entire slums that are basically left alone to fester and grow because any financial aid is blocked to them. Remember, if they're poor because they don't give a shit... how is keeping them poor going to make them want to do anything?
They're not going to think 'right, better do something with my life'. They're going to go against the government, complain and riot. People find it easier to blame someone else then themselves.
We have social protection NOW. It is called welfare. We have medicare and medicaid. We have things like AHCCCS.
We can create a better system, sure. But that will take serious time an effort before we even try to sell it to the public. You cannot just willy nilly scream shit to get votes, which is exactly what Bernie did.
Except that poverty =/= laziness to begin with.
Think about how many working class mining communities there are, or how many working class folk you see in construction work.
Or how much work farmhands have to do for so little pay.
I'd say that the type of labour done by poorer members of society is probably far more physically exhausting, and potentially far more dangerous than anything any middle class workers had to do.
Yeah, cause we live in a world where only obese people, smokers and drinkers ever get seriously ill or injured. If anyone ever finds themself in need of medical attention it's 100% there fault.
Don't forget that it's entirely possible to get injured without it being your fault. Also let's not forget how cancer could potentially effect anyone.
I'm not denying that there are lots of people who live unhealthy lifestyles, but your argument seems to solely be focusing on the people who are ill because of there own shortcomings, and doesn't take in to consideration people who aren't to blame for there condition.
Does it not seem slightly unfair to you that for kids born in to a moderately wealthy family, that the cost of a university degree may not even be an issue they take in to account, but kids from poorer families, who may otherwise be just as qualified and willing, may not be able to get the same opportunities because of the conditions of there birth?
Yeah, imagine if one of the republican candidates yelled something like "Build a wall, and make Mexico pay for it!", willy nilly without taking in to consideration the costs, how it would effect relations with Mexico, time and effort required, and how to sell it to the public.
My argument IS focusing on those living bad lifestyles. Did I not say I am for a better system? As long as that system isn't a joke, like what Bernie is pushing.
And how does that relate to what I have been saying about people getting, 'useless degrees'?
Yes, there is a something called inequality, that's LIFE. You know what though, there are also a ton of grants, and things like scholarships that can help that poor family attend college. We can also REFORM THE FUCK out of college to bring down costs. You know, like getting rid of bullshit like rock climbing walls, pools, brand new cafes, and tons of other useless shit you find on campuses that have ZILCH to do with education.
You do know that the rich will also take full advantage of a free healthcare and educational system right?
And I was never a big fan of the Trump. In fact, if you have bothered reading my posts, I blame Bernie, the asshole, Panders, for using a free shit populist message. No other democratic candidate has resorted to using such a cheap tactic like 'free shit', to get votes. Thanks to Panders, the republicans rallied behind their own version of Bernie to fight fire with fire.