Trump wins

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Throatpunch, Nov 9, 2016.

  1. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Ehh, I want a centralized government because it's a fantastic way to have absolute power and lord over the rest. There's nothing ideal in my love for communism. When I look at Stalin I don't look at a man who caused millions of deaths, but a man who made the USSR strong. I look at the states over the people, I admit from the safe view of a first world country.
     
  2. No Man

    No Man Gore Bag > Meat Bag

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    Feb 20, 2014
    It's amazing how the first and last sentence of your post perfectly complete each other. You, sir, are an artist.
     
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  3. Vergil

    Vergil Banned

    Jul 8, 2014
    Except he never claimed to believe in diversity and giving a legitimate reason for disliking something=/=crying racist.
     
  4. No Man

    No Man Gore Bag > Meat Bag

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    Feb 20, 2014
    I was just saying that belief in the first sentence is very much the last sentence, especially with the far left. I was not calling him out on any supposed hypocrisy.
     
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  5. Vergil

    Vergil Banned

    Jul 8, 2014
    Ah ok. I get so used to seeing leftists say stuff that doesn't make any sense towards their own argument and viewpoint.
    Also:

     
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  6. No Man

    No Man Gore Bag > Meat Bag

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    Feb 20, 2014
    Basically you want to play literally any Paradox game IRL, then?
     
  7. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Yeah, pretty much. The state is more important than the person.
     
  8. Vergil

    Vergil Banned

    Jul 8, 2014
    You're like a living meme.
     
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  9. No Man

    No Man Gore Bag > Meat Bag

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    Feb 20, 2014
    Not CK/CK2 then.
     
  10. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    That's the point.
    The ruler is merely a figurehead of the government.
     
  11. CourierC-212

    CourierC-212 First time out of the vault

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    Sep 19, 2016
    So, would it be acceptable to you for america to become completely brown, and remove all other racial elements, like whites, blacks, asians, etc, for cohesion to make the nation stronger?
    Ty ty, I hadnt really considered it, especially when they were different people I was quoting.
     
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  12. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    1. How the fuck would that make the nation stronger? That would create a massive lack of manpower and ensure that certain industries are starved from workers, not to forget making the nation vulnerable to military conquest from FUCKING Mexico. If by magic it did, then yes.
     
  13. CourierC-212

    CourierC-212 First time out of the vault

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    Sep 19, 2016
    Differences in religion and race leads to conflict as well as segregation between communities. In moments of panic, different races usually turn on each other and help their own as well.
    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/008152.html
    Source shows a study showing social cohesion, trust, and other important points of society are impacted with diverse cultures, religions and races. So, if all you care about is the nation, wouldnt it be logical you'd want one race, with a similar culture/religion to keep the societal bonds strong and the nation together? And i'm assuming you're american, so with the increased amount of hispanics/blacks/arabics in your country, who also have significantly more children than the original inhabitants of your country, I was curious if you would be alright with forced miscegenation to quickly improve social cohesion to get the country to an entirely mulatto race, that would not be dealing with the racial issues in america right now. Would you?
     
  14. MercenarySnake

    MercenarySnake Kept you waiting huh?

    Aug 22, 2015
    The part where he was talking about real change to Washington and such must of been a kick in the teeth to Obama. :lol:
     
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  15. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    I'm not American. Anyway, you haven't answered how this would solve the problems that I mentioned, such as a chronic lack of manpower and skilled labour. Only a magical population boom and magical education can result in a stronger nation, because let's be honest, social cohesiveness will not solve floundering industries, a small army and poorly educated populace.

    Also, this is counter-productive because it gets rid of skilled and experienced workers. I dislike Stalin's purges because they sacrificed efficiency for political correctness.
     
  16. CourierC-212

    CourierC-212 First time out of the vault

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    Sep 19, 2016
    But you just said you liked Stalin because he made the nation stronger? Did he make the nation stronger or did he remove skilled workers and sacrificed efficiency for political correctness?
     
  17. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    I think you failed to recognize that there are varying degrees of strength and weakness. Stalin indeed made the nation stronger but he could have gone so much further if he didn't purge the officer corps.
     
  18. CourierC-212

    CourierC-212 First time out of the vault

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    Sep 19, 2016
    As I recall, his purges was to proactively prevent perceived insurrection among his officers. This is a pretty common tactic in communistic countries.
     
  19. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    He was paranoid, and wanted to ensure that only the loyal would survive. I find this admirable (a nation would fall apart if traitors are spread among the country's administration) but he was TOO paranoid and he purged them at the worst possible time.
     
  20. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    This thread has finally gone off the deep end.


    Haha, just kidding.