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characters don't just die for no reason unless they aren't main characters.
also two things wrong with that. the hounds entire function in the story was to protect arya and get her to her mother. once that didn't work out due to rob's actions he ceased to have a function in the story, or at least arya's story. also it should be noted that he isn't technically confirmed dead. and after his "death" there have been reports of him leading a band of outlaws near the trident and its implied he may have joined the brotherhood.
 
People shouldn't be born with the right to vote. That right should be earned in one way or another.
 
That's part of Heinlein's Starship Troopers. The right to vote is earned through service, mostly military.
 
That's part of Heinlein's Starship Troopers. The right to vote is earned through service, mostly military.

I don't think it's a particularly good idea to start using Starship Troopers as a guidebook.

Though, I mean, it's not like governments aren't already taking cues from dystopian fiction novels.
 
That's part of Heinlein's Starship Troopers. The right to vote is earned through service, mostly military.

Which breads a militaristic society and people. What if then the right was earned through academic and humanistic achievement. Wouldn't it also get reflected in society and it's culture?
 
It is a good idea for movies but it is actually not a good idea. The military is just a form of brainwashing, so if you take a society already brainwashed, brainwash them more, you get someone that is highly trained and easily manipulated.
 
Classical liberals are just sodomites who believe that homosexuality is more important over the preservation of freedom of religion.

Sorry for dragging something up from a couple of days ago, but this is completely ass backwards and the religious do not understand freedom of religion.

Religious persecution is: You cannot do something because my religion tells me so. You know the fight against homosexuals, abortion. This is telling people who do not follow your religion what they can or cannot do based on your religion.

Religious freedom is: I cannot do something because my religion tells me I cannot. So as you can see you are not being forced into having homosexual sex, or being a homosexual. You are not forced to go get an abortion.

So no you uber pious ass hats have no idea of what religious persecution or the separation of church and state stand for. Nobody is forcing you to do things, they are just telling you to accept those who do what they feel is right and don't try to push your views on them.
 
I like this anthem way too much.

Unpopular because, well, we all in the west are supposed to hate Russia and Russian supporters these days and so on.

 
Unpopular because, well, we all in the west are supposed to hate Russia and Russian supporters these days and so on.
Nonsense! It's all very popular here. NMA is a leftist cabal sponsored by Soros and monitored by Russian bots, you didn't know that?

 
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You have to admit, this kind of stuff can be only done with the Red Army.

I must say I understand why the west felt so threatened by the Soviets, their concept of defense was a pretty aggresive one. Yet it was excessively effective, no one in NATO would dream of a military assault of the Soviet territories, insted they were busy making weapons and developing tactics of defense, this means you abandon all sense of initiative.
 
Indeed! Well, the Soviets have been particularly paranoid since the end of WW2 for suffering from another surprise attack, not that it took much to make Stalin and the Soviet leadership paranoid, but it was kinda pushed up to 11 after WW2. It's a bit difficult to understand this I guess, but for many Russians and east Europeans in general WW2 is still deeply present in their consciousness. So everything in the west became fascist and they always feared a new Invasion could simply hit the Soviets unprepared like it did in 1941 and the west would interpret their extensive military as preperation for a premtive attack and pure agression. Seriously it almost lead to a nuclear war when the NATO started their training with Able Archer in the 1980s, the largest NATO manouver up to this point. So yeah, they had a very agressive strategy when it came to the idea on how the motherland should be protected. On the other side though, a lot of it was just hype really. It is true that the Soviets had a huge army and outnumbered at the very least Europe forces on a massive scale at least on land based troops, particularly in the numbers of tanks and air defence which was even larger when you take the Warsaw Pakt in to account. But they paid a high price for it. In other words, the logistics and training. For example, Soviet armor had for the most part an auto-loader lowering the crew to 4, where as many western tanks had an aditional crew member for it. It lowered not only the survivability of the tanks, since the amunition and fuse had to be stored in one place, it also meant their vehicles have been really cramped due to the low profile. You hit something on a Soviet tank, and it would almost always be a vital hit. A tank for it self is not really known for beeing comfortable, but this was even worse with Soviet tanks. It was estimated if the Soviets ever decided for a pre-emtive strike, nothing would have stoped them really and they could have reached the French border or even Paris in a short time, however they most probably couldn't hold the Territories they conquered, a lot of their equipment would brake down, long supply lines forcing them to retreat and so on. And once the americans troops arrived it would be a slow but steady push back till they reached the Russian border. It also made it apparent where the Soviets really lacked the numbers and equipment, most notably in navall units, air support and their nuclear arsenal which was smaller compared to the west and it took like 2 decades before they catched up with their missile programms.

But, since most of the major nations had nuclear weapons nothing of that mattered as regardless which side would attack first, the loosing side would always fall back on nuclear weapons - most probably, thus rendering any kind of strategy, tactic or idea moot.
 
The tanks respresent the doctrine. You don't need more space if you are not going to wait long periods of time for the enemy to come, and one less crew (3) meant less armor needed to protect the crewman thus lowering the weight of the tank 1/4th so it is more maneuverable. NATO had taller and heavier tanks with lots of gun depression and ridiculous frontal armor to make most use of turret down/hull down defensive tactics, and were roomier because the crew had to wait inside the tank for long periods of time for the enemy to appear. Soviet tanks didn't need gun depression because their tanks were going to be attacking all the time, and the tanks were thus more mobile and smaller in size, and harder to hit in the open, and an autoloader makes more sense if the tank is going to be bouncing all around when firing and moving. A western designed tank in the Red Army would had been an unacceptable waste of resources, both human and material.

NATO doctrine made them extremely effective on the defense, but it meant they surrendered the initiative to the Soviets, and a smart enemy is never going to attack where you are strongest or where you are expecting it.

Soviets were also very fearful of NATO air superiority, so their air defences replicated this paranoia. All ground units would have at least 2 spectrums of air defense at all times. Long range missiles to shoot down anything/negate flying high, and short range missile and AA artillery to take them down if they were flying low or at the very least keep them from hitting anything.

An example of how a Soviet attack would take place is represented in this training video. A frontal assault is always a last resort, and if forced into it, something must be done to mitigate the enemy deffenses. Both sides knew this.



Things that happen in the film that you might not have noticed are the following:

-Soviets make a recon assault, send light units, suffer some light casualties, and assess the enemy forces.

-Soviet artillery then targets deffender's AA assets, so their helicopters can cross unhindered.

-A small group of motor rifle infantry with only basic helicopter assault training is repurposed for the attack on the enemy command post, when ready they hit the CP and leave the deffenders without command and control.

-Main Soviet forces cross the river.

It is a cat and mouse game in combined arms operations, each side trying to counter the other in different levels, and exploiting a weakness that will give them the advantage before committing. The one who does this better usually wins. No one strategy or doctrine will surpass the other on itself.
 
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The tanks respresent the doctrine.
Oh don't missunderstand me, I am not saying their doctrine was wrong, I am well aware of the things you said. I am just pointing out, that NATO forces tend to overestimate the Soviet forces. I mean today we know a lot of details that no one could possibly know in the past. Like Soviet heavy tank designs, when the IS3 was the first time presented it came somewhat like a schock for western tank designers. A big impenetrable thing, with a huge gun. Little did they know about the flaws of the tank however.

But as I said, it really doesn't matter in the end who has the advantage or initiative. Not in the nuclear age. I mean, in the case of a Soviet surprise attack, some certain areas in Germany would have been mined. With small portable nuclear weapons. Imagine that. Regardless which side would win, the looser would always fall back on nuclear weapons and then you have a game without winners.
 
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