Wasteland 2 Scorpitron 2.0 concept art

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Brother None, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. Geech

    Geech It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Dec 2, 2008
    I love it.
     
  2. UncannyGarlic

    UncannyGarlic Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Feb 6, 2008
    I think it's supposed to look like they painted the letters on with a stencil judging by the font, the paint splatters on the bottom and the spottiness of the E in RANGERS. It makes since that it would be done this way to a certain extent, it's a lot easier.

    I love the Scorpitron and the style of the whole piece. Personally I love the look of large arthropod robots so I dig the legs. Yes, tracks are more practical but I prefer style over reality for things like this.

    I'm still debating whether or not to up my pledge to the collector's edition...
     
  3. zioburosky13

    zioburosky13 Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 24, 2004
    That's the most armored, huge and nasty looking scorpion you ever set eyes on!!! :shock:
     
  4. Nexuiz

    Nexuiz First time out of the vault

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    Apr 26, 2009
    Because todays technology isn't yet so far to build robots like that?

    Of course it is practical, especially that it has legs instead of wheels or tracks, so it can move through woods or destroyed buildings easily.
     
  5. Tagaziel

    Tagaziel Panzerkatze Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Dec 10, 2003
    The tail is a flexible turret. You can't imagine the multitude of possibilities an autocannon on a very flexible mount can give? Such as rendering cover obsolete for any targets in the vicinity of the Scorpitron?

    Walkers are far more usable in the post-apocalypse, since they can navigate rubble faster and more efficently than tracked vehicles. Plus, if you blow off a leg, it's still going to walk. A track? Not so much.
     
  6. Lexx

    Lexx Background Radiant
    Moderator Modder

    Apr 24, 2005
    Still, I would consider keeping it the "Scorpitron 2.0" with legs and the "Scorpitron 1.0" with tracks. :>
     
  7. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Dedman oTO Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    Looking good so far. I'm loving it.
     
  8. 34thcell

    34thcell Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Sep 22, 2008
    I wonder how this would look and move in a tile based game, if Wasteland 2 uses tiles. The map is to scale, unlike Wasteland, so I guess this thing would have to traverse obstacles (it would silly for something so large to have move around smaller objects and critters). I'll be impressed if they can make large and colossal critters work without limiting their movement.
     
  9. Scab

    Scab First time out of the vault

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    May 11, 2007
    I like the overgrown look; that's stylistically different from what we've come to expect from Fallout.
     
  10. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    honestly the design is not practical. In our world.

    But it has not to be practical or anything. It has to fit the world of Wasteland. And I like the design.

    But designs like walkers or tanks with legs are not really possible yet. They are not good enough for combat. I know quite a bit about tanks and the principles behind it. The current system with tracks and the way how armor is used today has proved it self to be practical for the last 60 years. Maybe we will see here changes in the future. But it will take time. So far there is no real sign that the idea of the hull on tracks will be replaced any time soon simply because anything else is seen as impractical. The weight distribution is still much better with wide track then any walker system. A tank with 4 or 6 or even 8 legs would still have a weight of aprox. 60 or 70 tons which is the usual weight of modern MBTs. Thats simply to much for a system on legs.
     
  11. Sobboth

    Sobboth It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Aug 29, 2010
    Very nice concept art.
    I like both the Scorpiton 2.0 and the backgroung.
    Would be perfect if we can find in game Scorpitron 1.0 with tracks.
     
  12. Stanislao Moulinsky

    Stanislao Moulinsky Vault Fossil

    Jul 16, 2009
    Looks great. What was the in-universe explanation for such an enemy BTW? Pre-war tech?
     
  13. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...The pain of being dead...

    Sep 11, 2010
    Some brain in a jar designed it to keep other brains in jars from escaping a forcefield which brains without bodies, or bodies without brain, could not cross. The brain who created it didn't think of the fact that it isn't a body nor a brain so it escaped! :D

    On a more serious note, I haven't beaten Wasteland yet so I don't know why or where the robots in Vegas originated from or who created them, but I take it that they create a couple of these who after the end of Wasteland kinda wandered away on their own, remnant projects which were designed with a purpose which it continues to pursue.
     
  14. Mad Max RW

    Mad Max RW Mildly Dipped

    520
    Jan 12, 2004
  15. Per

    Per Vault Consort Staff Member Admin

    Apr 1, 2004
    [spoiler:fd23a074b2]After the war a bad AI rebuilt/reengineered a military research and development facility to pump out killer robots to kill everyone. The designs may have been altered or newly created.

    There was also a faction of feral cyborgs that evidently modelled their body alterations on animals. However, the Scorpitron has a robot icon in the game, not a cyborg one.[/spoiler:fd23a074b2]
     
  16. Zeronet

    Zeronet It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Apr 26, 2003
    Looks good, especially the overgrown look of the urban environment. I prefer the realistic look anyhow.
     
  17. Nexuiz

    Nexuiz First time out of the vault

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    Apr 26, 2009


    This even looks pretty much like the scorpitron.
    And I was talking about the principle and not if it is possible today.
     
  18. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    yes right, lets compare apples with oranges. A "tool" of some sort with a "weapon".

    Again. If it would be REALLY practical to give tanks "legs" don't you think they would do it? Again. It is impractical to have weapons, tanks, APCs or what ever with "legs" like either shown on the digger or in some concept art.

    Armored vehicles like tanks have completely different principles behind it then those. A digger has not to be able to carry protections and weapons of several tons around. Like a 120mm smoothbore gun and some 30 or 40 tons of armor. A modern Main battle tank has approx. a weight of 70-75 tons. Do you see something like that working on legs when it has 1. to keep a certain speed (in the range of (68–72 km/h for the Leopard 2) and 2. protection at the same time?

    Legs are at the moment not compatible with the 3 concepts of armored warfare Mobility, protection and firepower.

    A real tank designed like the scorpitron would not work. To many weak spots. To uneven weight distribution, the main gun is fixed on the chasis while a much "lighter" weapon is set on the "tail" and the whole body has to "rotate" if you want to attack something in the rear.

    yes and for a military design it makes no sense becaues the "principles" is "impractical".

    Just to say this again: I like the design. It looks futuristic. It looks bad ass. I would love to see it in Wasteland 2. But that does not mean its "practical" when using "realistic" rules. Not that this is in any way important for the game.
     
  19. csirifiszkio

    csirifiszkio First time out of the vault

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    Jan 12, 2008
    jeez the comcept kicks ass! i guess if you meet this with 4 rangers and 3 npcs you just die in 10 sec. i `can`t imagine how are you supposed to kill a monster like this with pityful humans.

    about the animal shaped designs... there you go it`s a bit duck like :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISznqY3kESI&list=UU7vVhkEfw4nOGp8TyDk7RcQ&index=2&feature=plcp

    anyways, legs are practical

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNZPRsrwumQ&list=UU7vVhkEfw4nOGp8TyDk7RcQ&index=7&feature=plcp

    the scorpion looks a littlebit too robust for me btw. if i think in todays materials, it`s own weight would be so big it would destroy itself with walking
     
  20. Nexuiz

    Nexuiz First time out of the vault

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    Apr 26, 2009
    The scorpitron is not a tank, it has no huge 120mm cannon and needs no such heavy protection, so you are totally off track here.
    Just imagine the timberjack spider a bit huger, with a bit more protection and some automatic machine guns here and there, voilà: you have a small scorpitron.