Wasteland Scooby Squad!

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It Wandered In From the Wastes
What if characters from Buffy: The Vampire Slayer were Fallout 1 / 2 characters... :lol:

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BUFFY:

You've met Buffy before... what can you say about her... she doesn't play well
with others. She's a jack of all trades, but a master of none. She's a good
general purpose Fallout 2 character, but she has problems. Most notably, she
can't have more than one companion (which means Sulik). But on the other hand,
who needs a Mutant twenty-five meters behind you firing a chain gun at the very
guy you're going mano y mano with????

The other big problem is that she has to spend perks on Attributes, depending 
on the direction she wants to go in. If she wants to become a sniper, she needs 
Perception, Agility and Luck. If she wants to become a hardcore brawler, she 
needs Strength, Agility and Luck (and maybe Mutate as well, for Jinxed). If she 
wants to have more companions than Sulik and Grampy Bone, she needs Charisma 
(no not that Charisma!). And that's not saying anything about the Lifegiver 
levels she is forced to choose, to make up for her poor (natural) Endurance. 

She spends a lot of time wandering the Wasteland. That is her curse after all - 
to battle Evil wherever it lies. She will spend A LOT of time wandering the 
Wasteland. Did I mention that she will spend a great deal of time wandering  
through the Wasteland? But that's okay. She has already been killed (kind of), 
revived, killed (for sure), resurrected, cancelled, renewed, and cancelled 
again... but somehow, she continues...


  Name: Buffy              Age: 16               Gender: Female
 Level: 01                 Exp: 0            Next Level: 1,000

 ::: Statistics :::
       Strength: 09         Hit Points: 034/034         Sequence: 09
     Perception: 08        Armor Class: 008         Healing Rate: 01
      Endurance: 05      Action Points: 09       Critical Chance: 007%
       Charisma: 03       Melee Damage: 04          Carry Weight: 170 lbs.
   Intelligence: 08        Damage Res.: 000%
        Agility: 08     Radiation Res.: 010%
           Luck: 07        Poison Res.: 025%


 ::: Traits :::                                  ::: Picks :::
  Small Frame                                     Small Guns
  Gifted                                          Unarmed
                                                  Speech




XANDER:

Poor Xander. He could amount to so much... if only he could use perks to 
increase his Strength, Perception, Agility AND Luck. Then he could be another 
Vasily Zaitsev. He can still be a pretty decent sniper, though, even if he is 
as dumb as a box of rocks. OK, he's not that dumb. Actually, he's not dumb at 
all. Just average. Average Xander. Who wants a Bozar. 


  Name: Xander             Age: 16               Gender: Male
 Level: 01                 Exp: 0            Next Level: 1,000

 ::: Statistics :::
       Strength: 05         Hit Points: 032/032         Sequence: 05
     Perception: 08        Armor Class: 009         Healing Rate: 04
      Endurance: 06      Action Points: 09       Critical Chance: 009%
       Charisma: 04       Melee Damage: 01          Carry Weight: 150 lbs.
   Intelligence: 06        Damage Res.: 000%
        Agility: 09     Radiation Res.: 000%
           Luck: 09        Poison Res.: 000%


 ::: Traits :::                                  ::: Picks :::
  Gifted                                          Small Guns
  Fast Metabolism                                 Big Guns
                                                  Speech




FAITH:

The REAL Slayer. Or at least she thinks so. Maybe the Spirit of the Slayer is 
schizophrenic? She has the same supernatural toughness protecting her (she will 
take both Lifegiver levels at Level 12). She can hit a little harder than 
Buffy. And maybe last a little longer in battle. But she is a bit self-absorbed 
(five by five? Not so much) and she REALLY doesn't play well with others. 


  Name: Faith              Age: 16               Gender: Female
 Level: 01                 Exp: 0            Next Level: 1,000

 ::: Statistics :::
       Strength: 10         Hit Points: 033/033         Sequence: 10
     Perception: 06        Armor Class: 009         Healing Rate: 01
      Endurance: 04      Action Points: 09       Critical Chance: 009%
       Charisma: 02       Melee Damage: 05          Carry Weight: 275 lbs.
   Intelligence: 07        Damage Res.: 000%
        Agility: 09     Radiation Res.: 008%
           Luck: 09        Poison Res.: 020%


 ::: Traits :::                                  ::: Picks :::
  Gifted                                          Unarmed
  Jinxed                                          Sneak
                                                  Lockpick




CORDIE:

Ah, Charisma. Cordelia DOES play well with others. She likes being at the
center of whatever is going on. And she likes being at the center of a well-
armed posse of gunfighters. And she likes to have fun. 


  Name: Cordie             Age: 16               Gender: Female
 Level: 01                 Exp: 0            Next Level: 1,000

 ::: Statistics :::
       Strength: 05         Hit Points: 032/032         Sequence: 05
     Perception: 06        Armor Class: 008         Healing Rate: 02
      Endurance: 06      Action Points: 09       Critical Chance: 007%
       Charisma: 08       Melee Damage: 01          Carry Weight: 150 lbs.
   Intelligence: 07        Damage Res.: 000%
        Agility: 08     Radiation Res.: 012%
           Luck: 07        Poison Res.: 030%


 ::: Traits :::                                  ::: Picks :::
  Gifted                                          Small Guns
  Sex Appeal                                      Speech
                                                  Gambling




HARMONY:

Petty, acquisitive, shallow, disdainful and treacherous, Harmony has heard 
rumors of a big city with bright lights and beautiful people, and she intends 
to go there and to seek fame, fortune and celebrity. She might play a little 
TOO well with others. IF you know what I mean. And I THINK that you DO.


  Name: Harmony            Age: 16               Gender: Female
 Level: 01                 Exp: 0            Next Level: 1,000

 ::: Statistics :::
       Strength: 05         Hit Points: 036/036         Sequence: 05
     Perception: 06        Armor Class: 008         Healing Rate: 02
      Endurance: 08      Action Points: 09       Critical Chance: 005%
       Charisma: 09       Melee Damage: 01          Carry Weight: 150 lbs.
   Intelligence: 06        Damage Res.: 000%
        Agility: 08     Radiation Res.: 016%
           Luck: 05        Poison Res.: 040%


 ::: Traits :::                                  ::: Picks :::
  Gifted                                          Speech
  Sex Appeal                                      Barter
                                                  Gambling




KENDRA:

Supernaturally strong and armed with a mysterious artifact named "Mr. Pointy",
Kendra is more than a match for most enemies. Alluring, mysterious, possessed
of an "exotic" accent, and blessed with great sex appeal, this haughty beauty
disdains the company of others. In her opinion, travelling companions simply
get in the way. 

 
  Name: Kendra             Age: 17               Gender: Female
 Level: 01                 Exp: 0            Next Level: 1,000

 ::: Statistics :::
       Strength: 08         Hit Points: 031/031         Sequence: 08
     Perception: 06        Armor Class: 008         Healing Rate: 01
      Endurance: 04      Action Points: 09       Critical Chance: 006%
       Charisma: 07       Melee Damage: 03          Carry Weight: 225 lbs.
   Intelligence: 08        Damage Res.: 000%
        Agility: 08     Radiation Res.: 008%
           Luck: 06        Poison Res.: 020%


 ::: Traits :::                                  ::: Picks :::
  Gifted                                          Small Guns
  Sex Appeal                                      Unarmed
                                                  Speech




RUPERT:

An intelligent but angry youth who lived on the edge, simultaneously curious 
about the mysteries of the Universe, willing to experiment with drugs, and 
constantly getting into fights, Rupert has mellowed with age into an 
intelligent and seasoned adventurer who has some skills with both melee weapons 
and advanced technology. Unfortunately he is afflicted with a stutter.


  Name: Rupert             Age: 35               Gender: Male
 Level: 01                 Exp: 0            Next Level: 1,000

 ::: Statistics :::
       Strength: 07         Hit Points: 034/034         Sequence: 07
     Perception: 07        Armor Class: 009         Healing Rate: 02
      Endurance: 06      Action Points: 09       Critical Chance: 005%
       Charisma: 04       Melee Damage: 02          Carry Weight: 200 lbs.
   Intelligence: 09        Damage Res.: 000%
        Agility: 09     Radiation Res.: 012%
           Luck: 05        Poison Res.: 030%


 ::: Traits :::                                  ::: Picks :::
  Chem Resistant                                  Melee Weapons
  Gifted                                          Throwing
                                                  Science
 
Well... charisma means more than beauty and at any rate, I'm certainly not talking about SMG, but about the character of Buffy Summers (who did say that she didn't play well with others). OTOH the Scooby Squad were followers of hers so you could argue either way.
 
The stats are all up to interpretation. You could be pretty damn attractive, but just so volatile and standoffish that your overall "Charisma" would be pretty low. Alternatively, you could be butt-ugly, but have a magnificent way with words, so you'd be fairly charismatic overall. It's not like she's a 1, anyway...
 
YEah but Charisma should have something to do with looks, especially in the Wasteland. Do you think an ugly chick is going to convince some dude to let them have their most valuable possession, no matter how good they are with words?

A beautiful woman on the other hand, with a combination of speech skill, might have a chance.
 
Well these are my thoughts on charisma:

I guess 6 (or maybe 5.5) would be dead average,

5 would be a lovable eccentric (but no one minds if you sit at their lunch table),

4 would be someone who was an oddball (or someone with a stutter or poor appearance) but generally tolerated,

while 3 would be the stereotypical freak, geek or loner, of whom Buffy Summers was definitely an example.

2 would be someone with poor hygiene (or an angry, dangerous person) who you would try to avoid (Faith).

1 would be the homeless guy in the subway who smells very bad who empties the entire car because people are afraid they will catch bedbugs from him.
 
Myron while being completely annoying geek is having 4 charisma. :)

And now thinks, he's ugly, and he has not charisma at all (in the term of being pleasant/convincing), but still he got that 4. What if he would be handsome?
 
BigBoss said:
YEah but Charisma should have something to do with looks, especially in the Wasteland. Do you think an ugly chick is going to convince some dude to let them have their most valuable possession, no matter how good they are with words?
Yes, yes they could. That was exactly my point. "Charisma" as a thing is NOT beauty, it's a combination of things. Body language, attractiveness, tone, conveyance, and finally how you use all of that with spoken and unspoken communication to influence others. Immediately assuming that beauty from a chick is the ONLY thing that will get her a good deal is rather sexist and short-sighted. Getting by on looks alone is not charisma, that's just using the power of attraction, and there's a perk and a trait for that. The stat governs the totality of Charisma. I never said that a clever diplomat who was born repulsive should have 8-10 CH, but they shouldn't have 1 JUST based on their looks alone. It's the cumulative total of those things I listed.
 
Look at it this way.

In High School, the popular girls are almost never ugly. They are always very beautiful and some of them are very nice. They are the most popular girls.

But then you have the "normal" looking girls (if you can define normal, who are very nice but don't know many people or have their own little group of friends, while generally the whole High School likes the popular girls).

Also we have to remember this isn't the 90's anymore. The popular girls aren't complete bitches anymore (most of them aren't anyways). Well, thats how it was when I was in High School three years ago.

The popular girls are very attractive and know how to use that attraction. THAT I believe, is Charisma.

If you want a more technical definition, heres how Wikipedia explains it:

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The term charisma has two senses: (1) compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others, (2) a divinely conferred power or talent.
 
I don't need any explanations... You need to understand what I'm getting at.

Charisma is more than just attractiveness, and if YOU are susceptible to nothing outside of physical aesthetics, that doesn't make the person seducing you extremely charismatic, it just makes you extremely weak to that. Someone with amazing beauty and phenomenal crowd-manipulating ability would easily score a 10. But someone with the same skills but lack any physical attractiveness would probably deserve a 5 or 6. Likewise, someone who is personally irritating, abrasive, and completely unapproachable, yet considered to be the ideal for beauty would not score above a 5 or 6. Just think of it as averages. If they'd "score a 10" for their looks, but "score a 1" on their people skills, then their overall Charisma would be 5.5 or 6 if you round up.

And besides, using your "High School" analogy as a model, what makes you think the so-called "popular girls" would EVER score 10s in any area? The stereotype is of indeed quite beautiful but woefully stupid, spoiled, and socially short-sighted people. If the SPECIAL system used 2 different stats to govern charisma and beauty, then this would be utterly cut-and-dry, but they used CH to govern all manners of winning people over. The same is true with most of the stats, in fact. IN covers both your ability to retain knowledge, learn, and think quickly, when those are all very separate qualities. AG governs both your manual dexterity and bodily reflexes when those have no commonalities, either. Being able to run fast doesn't mean you're adept at manipulating fine objects with your digits. Being able to retain massive amounts of trivia and information doesn't mean you'll be able to problem solve quicker than most.

You have to think of the stats as EVERYTHING that they represent, not just one quality that they govern.
 
SnapSlav said:
I don't need any explanations... You need to understand what I'm getting at.

Charisma is more than just attractiveness, and if YOU are susceptible to nothing outside of physical aesthetics, that doesn't make the person seducing you extremely charismatic, it just makes you extremely weak to that. Someone with amazing beauty and phenomenal crowd-manipulating ability would easily score a 10. But someone with the same skills but lack any physical attractiveness would probably deserve a 5 or 6. Likewise, someone who is personally irritating, abrasive, and completely unapproachable, yet considered to be the ideal for beauty would not score above a 5 or 6. Just think of it as averages. If they'd "score a 10" for their looks, but "score a 1" on their people skills, then their overall Charisma would be 5.5 or 6 if you round up.

I agree with you. In fact, I believe I even also stated this, however not as "to-the-point" as you did here. I believe we are just misunderstanding eachother.
 
Possibly. I believe it all began with feeling that certain levels of CH were too low for these characters because of the beauty that the actors who portrayed them possessed. But in addition to the "law of averages" point that I was making... to some degree you just have to dismiss their appearances. They are actors, after all. In Firefly, Joss Wheedon's later series, he wanted to cast an OVERWEIGHT actress for one role, because he didn't want the main characters to "all look like movie stars".... And yet he ended up casting a normal, fit, attractive women instead. Indeed, all the main characters STILL looked like movie stars. If the Buffyverse were real, I'm sure the babes would be much less magically attractive, so their Charisma scores, with their lacking people skills in mind, wouldn't be all that surprisingly low.
 
Yeah I agree.

The wikipedia definition I posted also says that Charisma is a combination of ones beauty and ability to charm and/or inspire devotion.

So basically, as you said, Charisma is a mixture between how attractive a person is, and their own personality.

But you're right. The producers and directors also go out looking for women that could be models to portray their lead female roles. Even commercials do this.
 
Now for the real Scooby Gang:

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Name: Fred              Age: 18               Gender: Male
 Level: 01                 Exp: 0            Next Level: 1,000

 ::: Statistics :::
       Strength: 08         Hit Points: 034/034         Sequence: 07
     Perception: 03        Armor Class: 008         Healing Rate: 01
      Endurance: 05       Action Points: 05       Critical Chance: 007%
       Charisma: 09       Melee Damage: 04          Carry Weight: 200 lbs.
   Intelligence: 03        Damage Res.: 000%
        Agility: 05     Radiation Res.: 010%
           Luck: 03        Poison Res.: 025%


 ::: Traits :::                                  ::: Picks :::
  Good Natured                                     Traps
                                                           Unarmed
                                                           Speech


Name: Daphne              Age: 16               Gender: Female
 Level: 01                 Exp: 0            Next Level: 1,000

 ::: Statistics :::
       Strength: 03         Hit Points: 020/020         Sequence: 05
     Perception: 03        Armor Class: 000         Healing Rate: 01
      Endurance: 03      Action Points: 05       Critical Chance: 007%
       Charisma: 10       Melee Damage: 01          Carry Weight: 500 lbs.
   Intelligence: 03        Damage Res.: 000%
        Agility: 05     Radiation Res.: 010%
           Luck: 01        Poison Res.: 025%


 ::: Traits :::                                  ::: Picks :::
  Sex Appeal                                         Lockpick
  Jinxed                                                Sneak
                                                           Speech

Name: Velma              Age: 16               Gender: Female
 Level: 01                 Exp: 0            Next Level: 1,000

 ::: Statistics :::
       Strength: 07         Hit Points: 034/034         Sequence: 07
     Perception: 07        Armor Class: 000         Healing Rate: 01
      Endurance: 05      Action Points: 06       Critical Chance: 007%
       Charisma: 05       Melee Damage: 02          Carry Weight: 100 lbs.
   Intelligence: 09        Damage Res.: 000%
        Agility: 05     Radiation Res.: 010%
           Luck: 03        Poison Res.: 025%


 ::: Traits :::                                  ::: Picks :::
  Gifted                                                Science
  Four Eyes                                           Outdoorsman
                                                           Doctor

Name: Shaggy          Age: 16               Gender: Male
 Level: 01                 Exp: 0            Next Level: 1,000

 ::: Statistics :::
       Strength: 03         Hit Points: 034/034         Sequence: 09
     Perception: 08        Armor Class: 000         Healing Rate: 01
      Endurance: 03      Action Points: 10       Critical Chance: 007%
       Charisma: 03       Melee Damage: 01          Carry Weight: 100 lbs.
   Intelligence: 03        Damage Res.: 000%
        Agility: 10     Radiation Res.: 050%
           Luck: 03        Poison Res.: 025%


 ::: Traits :::                                  ::: Picks :::
  Small Frame                                          Sneak
  Fast Metabolism                                     Outdoorsman
                                                              Traps

Name: Scooby Doo              Age: 2               Gender: Male
 Level: 01                 Exp: 0            Next Level: 1,000

 ::: Statistics :::
       Strength: 09         Hit Points: 034/034         Sequence: 09
     Perception: 03        Armor Class: 000         Healing Rate: 01
      Endurance: 05      Action Points: 10       Critical Chance: 007%
       Charisma: 05       Melee Damage: 05          Carry Weight: 300 lbs.
   Intelligence: 02        Damage Res.: 000%
        Agility: 10     Radiation Res.: 010%
           Luck: 03        Poison Res.: 025%


 ::: Traits :::                                  ::: Picks :::
  Bruiser                                               Unarmed (he is a dog afterall)
  Good Natured                                     Sneak
                                                           Traps
 
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