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MutantScalper

MutantScalper

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So winter is not only coming but already here. 20 + cm of snow in the last 24 hours. Usually it isn't this type of weather at this time of year, snow usually falls in late december. Right now -12 deg Celsius with wind chill. I guess it's time to go full Michelin man with the winter clothes again.

Already kind of X-massy kind of feel.
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Ok and now we have an actual blizzard here. All I need is a hot rum and some kebab and I'm good.

I don't know how many of you has shoveled or plowed snow (not cocaine) but that stuff is heavy. It's a good workout though. Wet snow can be really heavy.

People who have traveled in both extreme hot and extreme cold say that cold is actually sort of practical and easier than hot. In cold climate you have plenty of water right next to you, just melt the snow (not the yellow snow) and all your food stays edible in the cold. In hot everything spoils quicker and water evaporates fast.

As far as climate change/global warming, seems to me the overwhelming majority of scientists thinks it is happening. And it's a serious issue.
 
Thursday: Actual snow started snowing down, 5 cm coverage upon the land, -5 celsius
Friday: Wet heavy rainstorms, +7 celsius

I wish I would live in northern tip instead next to coast.
 
MutantScalper said:
So winter is not only coming but already here. 20 + cm of snow in the last 24 hours. Usually it isn't this type of weather at this time of year, snow usually falls in late december. Right now -12 deg Celsius with wind chill. I guess it's time to go full Michelin man with the winter clothes again.

Already kind of X-massy kind of feel.
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It's beautiful. :)
 
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That's actually just a stock photo. It is nice here. Here's a pic by me taken late at night. This was taken before the blizzard, so add 30 - 50 cm of snow into this pic. Which has now started to melt away.
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Better pic.

It's in the 60's here...been getting near freezing at night with wind taken into account. My new heater has helped a ton or I would be bitching like the last few years.
 
TorontRayne said:
Better pic.

It's in the 60's here...been getting near freezing at night with wind taken into account. My new heater has helped a ton or I would be bitching like the last few years.
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The early, wet snow kind of sticks to the branches of the trees. The branches are bending and sometimes breaking off. Some trees even fall because of the weight of the snow. Luckily don't have any big trees near.

Also the snow covers all the dog doodoo etc. making the air somehow fresher and easier to breathe. So that's a bonus.
 
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MutantScalper said:
As far as climate change/global warming, seems to me the overwhelming majority of scientists thinks it is happening. And it's a serious issue.
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i generally always start from a point of doubt when someone says the sky is falling and then puts out their hand asking for money to study it.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/31/australia-weather-bureau-caught-tampering-with-climate-numbers/

“The bureau’s quality control system, designed to filter out spurious low or high values was set at minus 10 minimum for Goulburn which is why the record automatically adjusted,” a bureau spokeswoman told reporters Monday. BOM added that there are limits placed on how low temperatures could go in some very cold areas of the country.
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but what if the temperature really is that low? the article is basically the people at BOM saying if the equipment measures temperatures lower than they think it should be, then the equipment is automatically faulty.

Marohasey said BOM adjustments changed Aussie temperature records from a slight cooling trend to one of “dramatic warming” over the past century.
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cant be having that! oh hell no!
 
Crni, I have nightmares about my time in the military, plus scars from frost bites. :|

Meh, didn't really mean this as a climate change -thread. But nap yourselves out if you're so inclined. Me, I'm not a climate scientist so I'm not even gonna say nothing! However, I will say this: if the climate starts to change for whatever reason, a LOT of mofos are gonna be hurtin'. That's all I'm willing to say on that subject.

-43 Celcius in Canada, Thunder Bay. Any NMA'ers from Canada, eh?

Winter military shot. "Be all you can be" and all that crap. :D
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TheGM said:
Global Warming? then why is it getting Cold.

Checkmate.
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Nonsense. You ask about _global_ warming, but all you got is one single place getting colder - not _global_ temperature. This is a fail.

If you must know, i can tell you why this place and many other places like it - namely much of mid-latitudes, - are getting colder as a result of global warming, too. You see, there is very real and very powerful air current, called Polar Vortex, which much separates air masses of mid-latitudes and Arctic air masses. Normally. It goes all around the Arctic, and wind speeds in excess of 100 km/h is nothing unusual within it. So it's very strong. Thing is, this Polar Vortex strength is powered by temperature difference between mid-latitudes air and polar air. This difference is being decreased, because the Arctic is going warmer faster than any other region of Earth (which is known as Arctic Amplification process).

As a result, Polar Vortex gets weaker, and starts to "wave" more. Big parts of mid-latitudes get "behind" the Polar Vortex's current path, effectively much switching from being mid-latitude climate - at the time, - to being Arctic climate. And even much warmer (than in the past) Arctic sort of climate - is quite very cold. This is how you're getting all those messages from various places saying how they get unusual snowfalls, unusually cold temperatures, etc, - those are the places which happened to be "cut off" from warmer air masses for a month or two by fluctuating, increasingly destabilized Polar Vortex air current.

In the same time, other places in mid-latitudes happen to be unsually far from Polar Vortex (as it waves south and north about equal amount, not just expanding south everywhere). As a result, you get many places with unusually warm temperature. This year, one such big place happened to be Russia. You probably know that, say, Moscow has a ton of snow and is very frosty around Xmas times, right? Well, not this year it ain't. Look what russians' capitol got for New Year 2018 weather:

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See any snow? I don't. Same in their northern capital - St-Petersbug: they got their Neva river not even frozen even to this day. They got all kinds of plants and mushrooms growing in their Moscow botanical gargens, half of the country is fishing normally (as opposed to doing holes in thick ice to do so-called "Winter fishing"), certain trees started to bloom as if it's April, etc.

This is how you gotta check _everywhere_, if you want to make any "checkmate" about global warming without making any silly statements.
 
*ahem*
We had a thunderstorm a few days ago. Thunderstorms in January are certainly rare around these parts, they're usually a summer-thing. But it was really warm, so it's not surprising. I stood outside in a t-shirt for like half an hour on New Year's Eve, while last year I froze my nuts off on NYE.
Funny enough, while it was really warm this December it was also really muggy and grey, I think we had like 4 (!) hours of sunshine in my hometown during December.
 
Tryint to convince climate sceptics about climate change, is like trying to convince flat earthers at this point that the earth is round. I am giving up on it. You can not effectively reason with people who are iliterate in scientific questions and don't even really grasp the concept of a scientific concensuss.

Either way, time will show who's right in the end.
 
Crni Vuk said:
Tryint to convince climate sceptics about climate change, is like trying to convince flat earthers at this point that the earth is round. I am giving up on it. You can not effectively reason with people who are iliterate in scientific questions and don't even really grasp the concept of a scientific concensuss.

Either way, time will show who's right in the end.
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Good point; for many it's a subject of faith, not reason. For yet many others, it's phychological block: they just deny the possibility we all are screwed much. For yet some others, it's one intentional choice to deny the obvious.

But i can't agree about "time will show" part. For many kinds of people, it never will. They will die before admitting something's wrong with the planet's climate because they either don't want to admit it, or don't know anything about it (lack of corresponding education) - or both. We have millions of people already surviving only because they are being sent food aid, - whole contries' agricultures have failed like never before. If that does not open world's eyes to the problem, then i'm affraid nothing will.

edit: Hassknecht, was it another case of that, how you called it, hard-to-see kind of humor. Seeing that link you gave, i think you mean it was. Sigh... Apparently everyone here will soon have a hobby of making good fun outta me. %)
 
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