What will be the canon ending of New Vegas?

brandonhart61 said:
The code snippets are the data on Mr House's network that he put on there that change Yes Man from a sycophant to an assertive individual, which can be seen as Yes Man filling Mr Houses role in case Mr House dies.
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Trim your "quotes" down a bit, if you don't mind.

J.E. Sawyer stated that betrayal or Yes Man otherwise asserting his own vision wasn't the implication that they were trying to go for with Yes Man, rather that he'd be capable of functioning by himself without some random schmuck pulling the same thing you pulled on Mr. House.

J.E. Sawyer clarified what is happening with Yes Man when he "upgrades" himself.

That he will not just roll over for the next person to walk up to him in the Courier's absence. I.e. he will become a somewhat-independent steward instead of a powerful tool for any random person to use for nefarious purposes.
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Essentially, Yes Man will control New Vegas depending on how the Courier tasks him with that purpose. The upgraded code simply makes it so that Yes Man will remain loyal to the Courier, so no one else can pull what the Courier did with Mr. House.
 
TorontRayne said:
^Thanks for posting that. I was curious about that too.
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Me too, I didn't play enough with Yes Man yet, just did one playthrough until now, and I sided NCR.
 
There is actually a clue to the canon ending within the game, in the form of the Courier's Duster. It's a little reward you get after finishing Lonesome Road that is mostly identical to Ulysses' duster. The emblem on the back varies depending on which faction you are most strongly allied with.

NCR = Two headed bear
Legion = Bull
Mr. House = Old world flag, same as Ulysses
Yes Man = Large black spade with the number 21 imposed over it

However, regardless of which emblem you get in-game, the ending slide in the game shows the Courier walking into the sunset wearing the "Yes Man" emblem on the back of his duster. This indicates that the canon ending will be an independent New Vegas.
 
What of the Khans? There is a pretty interesting scenario where the flee to wyoming and create an empire there. In my book, empire = big bad ass mofo.
 
And that Empire is forged with the help of the FOllowers peopel that must be tired of the NCR pushing them around, having the NCR endings plus that Khan Ending along with the Legion splitting into smaller factions would make for a good follow up IMO.
 
Richwizard said:
However, regardless of which emblem you get in-game, the ending slide in the game shows the Courier walking into the sunset wearing the "Yes Man" emblem on the back of his duster. This indicates that the canon ending will be an independent New Vegas.
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No it dosen't. For all we know, they might've used that so they could have an ending that didn't favour any particular faction, as well as the fact its similar to the vault 21 suit that courier is seen wearing in the vanilla game endings. I doubt obsidian has already decided what ending is canon. Some of the staff may have their own favourite faction, but I doubt they've set in stone what happens. We'll just have to wait and see in the next fallout game Obsidian develops, if they do develop another.
 
Actually, I thought the same. Maybe the Yes-Man version was the first duster that they had invented so they stuck that up in the ending slide, and were too lazy to add the other models in later on.

Although I see an Independent/Mr House ending more tolerable. Essentially if the NCR won, they'd have a hand against the Legion, and vice versa. Since both of these are vital to the franchise at this stage, a stalemate is a perfect stance for the developers not to make some players upset.
 
I don't see the Legion as vital to the franchise, at least not as a big player (if they win). Even in a stalemate or NCR victory, they will still exist, either unified under a new leader or divided between aspirants to the place of Caesar.

NCR struggled to control the Mojave, which was never under Legion control; it surely would be hell to try and conquer Arizona anytime soon, and I bet they will reinforce their control (and MAYBE development) of Mojave before another shot at unclaimed border territories. And even then, they will likely expand into Idaho or Oregon, not Arizona. Especially if the Legion stays unified.

And don't forget the inner conflicts: Redding, San Francisco, New Reno and Vault City were independent in 2242, it's unlikely that everything is nice and settled after just 30 years or less of anexation. Plus, there is the Brotherhood war deep indise NCR territory, which ain't exactly solved, and the implications of the caravan massacre on Mojave among the cavaran companies' headquarters.
 
Hey I was reading this and I agree well would love to see and Independent Vegas run by most Likely Yes Man and go further into NCR Territory and land into The Hub I believe there are many things they can do with something like that and I think it would be fascinating to see how that city would work and look like. I also believe that Ceaser's Legion would die off and go back to the tribal aspect but a bit smarter then in the past and the Followers would be a bigger group and do more good and possibly i think maybe NCR becomes the Villains in the game where as the Followers will be the good faction because they teamed up with the Brotherhood after finally realizing that they should work together for the betterment of Mankind and the survival of the brotherhood
 
Neon, the anarchist faction couldn't go indefinitely further into another faction's territory, simply because there are no working securitron factories. If they expand, they become inherently weaker, as they'd have less securitrons per surface to protect. They'll probably choose the local utopy instead of a dispersed mess.
 
I actually mistyped right there i was meaning that yes man stayed in New Vegas area but the next game would go into The Hub area sorry about that I did not even realize I did that thanks for showing that to me
 
The canonending I would like is the Independent Vegas Ruled by The Courior. And that thing at the end where Yes Man said "I'm going to install software to make me more assertive." would point to a nice game in the future of New Veags if they make it canon.
 
José Cruz said:
The canon ending I think would be the Ms. House ending, where he becomes the ruler of New Vegas and surrounding lands and is in a tense alliance with the NCR.

However, he doesn't present a large threat to the Legion or the NCR because his few hundred robots don't consist in a very large force as compared to the NCR and the Legion's forces, with number in the thousands or more.

The combined forces of the mojave locals, ms. house and the nrc manage to deafeat the legion's attack, the courier convices the legate that the conquest of the NRC is not worth the cost and the legion's menace to the west ends.
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Who is Ms House, Mr House's sister?
 
LinkPain said:
Independent ending i think . Legion crushed , NCR still pouring into the Mojave and BoS playing along somewhere in there (not the ridiculous "goody goody" or "evil evil" DC BoS...)
Only NCR has enough resources to actually do anything in the Mojave , no matter if they don't get New Vegas . They just need the Dam .


Bethesda cannon :
Boomers found a nuke , Mojave leveled , all inhabitants became VERY BAD ghouls which we have to kill in Fallout "pimp my nuke" 4 .
All children remained intact of course , all alive and kicking . They will serve special nuka-cola achievement pack per kill .
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That sounds like something Bethesda would do
 
House, all the way, he is the only way to keep a steady and growing New Vegas falling in to the hand of the evil Legion or the Greedy NCR, Yes Man would cause Vegas to fail, anarchy is not the soultion
 
I think that the canon ending would be an independent vegas since the anarchy would be a great setting plotwise, however i hope F4 would be in a different area like the clean slate New Arroyo( since its not stated that it's part of the NCR), where 5 years after the events in New Vegas, the Chosen One dies "mysteriously" leaving no clear heir, here various factions like the Chosen One's bastard Mr. Bishop are claimants, there are the NCR and NV embassies trying to influence events, and your character, maybe the Courier himself finds out that he's a bastard of the Chosen one as well and vie for control of that major city.
 
^Arroyo is in NCR territory, and eveyrthing south and north from it is, and it seems that canonicaly the Chosen One was pro NCR.

And the Chosen one heir thing sounds terrible.
 
regarding New Arroyo, i thought the new settlement wasn't anywhere near the original Arroyo of Fallout 2 (if i'm wrong though, i stand corrected) and personally i love the fallout series due to its chaotic appeal, while I agree that the Chosen One might be pro-NCR, I think it might be due to the fact that he has no other major political faction to align with since the families in New Reno are concerned more with their internal struggles aside from the Bishops, and Vault City is just too small to resist the NCR, also you can not join the Enclave aside from being a guardsman. New Arroyo should be a seperate city-state not only is this good story-wise but also to resist the imperialist policies of the current NCR on its push north. i hope that New Arroyo adopts a political philosophy not rooted in democracy, totalitarianism, or any current pre-war ideology so that it would be totally unique, and a breeding ground for political intrigue and thus more room to maneuver for us morally-ambiguous players, a city like Constantinople at its zenith.

regarding the Chosen One heir thing, yes, i know that its a common plot, but isn't the Chosen one himself an heir of the Vault Dweller?
 
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