What will be the canon ending of New Vegas?

Vegas is a (more or less) functioning Pre-War city. Far more importantly, Hoover dam is a formidable source of energy (for the NCR) and a perfect bridge to cross the Colorado into the lands beyond (for the Legion). It's explicitely stated that NCR stays for Hoover Dam, New Vegas is just there (and considering House breathing down their necks and the Casinos absorbing their caps, they could probably do without).
 
Surf Solar said:
What is interesting to know is, why they even DO expand towards the east, or why the Legion expands towards the west. Just for the lulz/to crush the enemy? Isn't there a fuckload of space to settle down in the californian mainland or in the states Caesar has ?
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Greed, that's why. That is the thing that drive Kimball and Caesar to even try to annex Mojave. Sure, NCR said they're only wanted the Dam for electricity, but why bother to annex New Vegas? House is a competent leader, and got plenty of muscle to secure the city. His knowledge of pre-war tech far surpasses NCR's brightest mind. So why? Because they didn't want their caps go anywhere, and want to grab all the casinos and resources for themselves, that's why.

And Caesar, as great as his synthesis sound, he's just an educated psychopath. What good is New Vegas for the Legion anyway, since they're denying any kind of technology which House had? They didn't even need the Dam, not like they rely on any electricity appliances.

House is the neutral force in this war. Stuck right in the middle of two bloat-headed armies. He and his ego only want one thing, to save New Vegas.
 
quotetheraven90 said:
but why bother to annex New Vegas? House is a competent leader, and got plenty of muscle to secure the city. His knowledge of pre-war tech far surpasses NCR's brightest mind. So why? Because they didn't want their caps go anywhere, and want to grab all the casinos and resources for themselves, that's why.
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It may also have to do with the fact that House could, and PLANS to take everything the NCR did in the Mojave out of their hands with his army of robots, they are nto afaraid of their caps going anywhere, the caps currency system is theirs, they are worried about the amount of real resources they are spending on the anexation of thsi region that could help both sides.
 
House and independent is probably more or less equivalent in the long run anyway. Since nobody gets to see House, they could just be ambiguous and vague about the identity of the top dog of Lucky 38.
 
Except House has long term plans for the region, while the Independent ending is just that, independent, no rulers, no gods, no masters.
 
Walpknut said:
Except House has long term plans for the region, while the Independent ending is just that, independent, no rulers, no gods, no masters.
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Except the only way New Vegas stays independent is if someone keeps running the Securitrons to keep the NCR from coming back over the Mojave. Even if that someone is Yes Man, there's still a leader and a head of NV, just as during the game Mr. House was acknowledged as the "owner" of the city even when no one really knew what the fuck that meant.
 
Actualy the Securitrons only seem to protect the inmediate zone around the Strip, places like Primm still rely on sheriffs, the Powder Ganger can keep being pests in the southern parts of the region, nobody is living under the rule of anybody, and no long term goal.
 
Which is what I didn't like about that ending. I wanted to take over Vegas, I wanted to become the boss... got suckered by a robot instead. Most popular ending.... why? I do no get that at all.
 
Well, you only know what the ending will actually be like if it's a second playthrough. I imagine most players had a line of thought similiar to yours.
 
Here is what I do hope will happen.NCR wins and legion retreats(Caesar dies.The Great Khans move into Wyoming. Ulysses launches the nuclear bomb at the NCR just before the battle of hoover dam . The Legion launches countless skirmishes on the Mojave to weaken troops(no large battles just water against rock type of thing). With the NCR's long 15 highway heavily irradiated supply lines eventually break and forces the NCR to pull out and count their losses. The Legion moves into the Mojave capturing it. The legion makes attempts to invade the NCR but supply lines always attribute to their failure.Legate Lanius expanded north and south but dies due to wound infections. The empire collapses into civil war and deforms into tribes and petty kingdoms.All the while the Great Khans over the last few decades have gained great power their empire now stretching from west Wyoming to Chicago(in a Mongolic style empire).The NCR collapses eventually. The events of fallout 4 will be in chicago between Bos Mid-West and the now powerful great Khans.
 
Independent or House in my opinion, I can't really make a decision between the two since they're theoretically the same.
 
RogerMaxson37 said:
I just hope that the NCR ending isn't canon.
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I'm almost sure it will be either NCR or independent.
Why? Because always the protagonist tend to be good intentioned in canon storyline, and House and Caesar seems to be pretty much selfish, and probably the courier is able to notice about this, not so much with NCR (the courier had no much relationship with the big corporate people, aside from Gunderson, the Crimson Caravan's manager and the Van Graffs), so he probably will see as the "good" people the one from NCR or the natives from New Vegas.

brandonhart61 said:
Independent or House in my opinion, I can't really make a decision between the two since they're theoretically the same.
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I don't think they're near the same, House is more like a benevolent dictator. And the "benevolent" is just about not killing just because they think different.
 
Oppen said:
RogerMaxson37 said:
I just hope that the NCR ending isn't canon.
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I'm almost sure it will be either NCR or independent.
Why? Because always the protagonist tend to be good intentioned in canon storyline, and House and Caesar seems to be pretty much selfish, and probably the courier is able to notice about this, not so much with NCR (the courier had no much relationship with the big corporate people, aside from Gunderson, the Crimson Caravan's manager and the Van Graffs), so he probably will see as the "good" people the one from NCR or the natives from New Vegas.

brandonhart61 said:
Independent or House in my opinion, I can't really make a decision between the two since they're theoretically the same.
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I don't think they're near the same, House is more like a benevolent dictator. And the "benevolent" is just about not killing just because they think different.
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It's strongly suggested in the Independent ending that House's 'code snippet's are a fail safe in case House died (so Yes Man becomes more assertive and essentially fills his role). Of course, how Yes Man runs things is a complete mystery to everybody. Will he turn into Skynet? Or will a machine be best for everyone?
 
I have faith in Yes Man and hope that's gonna be the canon ending.
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I don't. Not to mention the Courier him/herself could be anything from an enlightened genius to an utter psychopath. There's too much ways for the Yes Man ending to fail for me to consider it the best. It's possible that this will make it canon, however, as the devs will have the most leeway to determine how New Vegas does afterwards.
 
brandonhart61 said:
Oppen said:
RogerMaxson37 said:
I just hope that the NCR ending isn't canon.
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I'm almost sure it will be either NCR or independent.
Why? Because always the protagonist tend to be good intentioned in canon storyline, and House and Caesar seems to be pretty much selfish, and probably the courier is able to notice about this, not so much with NCR (the courier had no much relationship with the big corporate people, aside from Gunderson, the Crimson Caravan's manager and the Van Graffs), so he probably will see as the "good" people the one from NCR or the natives from New Vegas.

brandonhart61 said:
Independent or House in my opinion, I can't really make a decision between the two since they're theoretically the same.
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I don't think they're near the same, House is more like a benevolent dictator. And the "benevolent" is just about not killing just because they think different.
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It's strongly suggested in the Independent ending that House's 'code snippet's are a fail safe in case House died (so Yes Man becomes more assertive and essentially fills his role). Of course, how Yes Man runs things is a complete mystery to everybody. Will he turn into Skynet? Or will a machine be best for everyone?
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Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean with "code snippets", I'm not a native english speaker and I'm frankly pretty bad at it.
I didn't play that ending, may be because of that why I don't understand.
Anyway, what I mean is about the intentions of the courier.
In most canon endings, the main character had mostly altruist intentions, so I think it will probably be the same way for New Vegas. In that case, only if they assume a dumb character (or an enlightened one who see more than how New Vegas is ran) House or the Legion can rule New Vegas, because they're the factions most noticeable selfish.
I think the main problem with Yes Man is that IIRC he is programmed to obey anyone, so anyone who can guard him from other people could become the new dictator of New Vegas, with all the securitrons at his/her service.

Ilosar said:
I don't. Not to mention the Courier him/herself could be anything from an enlightened genius to an utter psychopath. There's too much ways for the Yes Man ending to fail for me to consider it the best. It's possible that this will make it canon, however, as the devs will have the most leeway to determine how New Vegas does afterwards.
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It is obviously possible, but canon endings chose mostly an altruist main character. It could change, however, and might be a funny twist.
 
Oppen said:
House is more like a benevolent dictator. And the "benevolent" is just about not killing just because they think different.
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Nah, he just kills because they're in the way.
 
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