Carib FMJ
Nuka-Cola Chaser
The Caribbean, aside from maybe Cuba would be relatively safe till the fallout started raining down... But I suppose on myu island paradise, I'd be safe. Watching the sunset and sipping on coconut rum like it was nothing.
What would Fallout mean for your home town ?
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Couldn't stay home (Tulsa), couldn't hide out at work (Tulsa Int'l Airport), couldn't hide out with either parent (McAlester Army Ammunition Plant is too close).
Hey Bradyllama, which would be better, a small-medium city (Ada) or a small redneck town where they have a bunch of hunting gear already (Holdenville)? Just want to stay out of the western half of Oklahoma, the weather there is shit already.
Hey Bradyllama, which would be better, a small-medium city (Ada) or a small redneck town where they have a bunch of hunting gear already (Holdenville)? Just want to stay out of the western half of Oklahoma, the weather there is shit already.
Carib said:
More along the lines of "sipping on salt water due to global warming".
Remember the Glow?
Yeah...
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Dracon M'Alkir
Vault Senior Citizen
According to this neat diagram, I'd be quickly evaporated. Have fun in your post apocolyptic nightmares guys, I'm going to chill.
Regards,
Dark Legacy
Regards,
Dark Legacy
EVilzealot
First time out of the vault
I would possibly die for radiation. Because i don't think that anyone would want to nuke Finland.
yetidoodledandy
First time out of the vault
heh i'd be dead, i live close to some nuclear power plants
Xavierblazer
Vault Senior Citizen
I live in springfield, , so I think I would die rather quickly with all those nukes a 2 hour drive to the north.
What hasn't been said, and I wonder if anyone realizes it... Those states that look like they have been nuclear carpet bombed (Nebraska, Montana, Colorado, Missouri, etc...) are likely where are the missiles are.
I know this to be true in the case of North Dakota, having lived at Minot AFB as a kid. My dad pulled shifts down in the control room with the button. How he could do that job is beyond me...
I currently live next to a army base, nuclear power plant, and a major nuclear material processing facility (Augusta, Georgia). So I am guarantied to be vaporized.
-Sol
I know this to be true in the case of North Dakota, having lived at Minot AFB as a kid. My dad pulled shifts down in the control room with the button. How he could do that job is beyond me...
I currently live next to a army base, nuclear power plant, and a major nuclear material processing facility (Augusta, Georgia). So I am guarantied to be vaporized.
-Sol
Meanbean G.
First time out of the vault
Live next to a nuclear power plant too,
major power source in southern germany.
Boing!
Butt at least there is a ninepins alley in it!
major power source in southern germany.
Boing!
Butt at least there is a ninepins alley in it!
I live close to a nuclear power plant as well, less than 20 minutes away. Seabrook Station.
That, coupled with living about 50-60 miles from Boston, up along the seacoast in New Hampshire.
Survival possibilities? It is possible I suppose, as a decomissioned submarine base and a nuclear power plant aren't as much a threat as other targets in the United States. Nuclear winter will be DAMN cold, but it is possible to survive I suppose. Decent farming area, low reliance on the government, and little to no gun restrictions. I think I would do pretty well.
Plus news: decommisioned subs and water access mean I might get to play like a Shi, heh. That, or get eaten by mutant fish.
That, coupled with living about 50-60 miles from Boston, up along the seacoast in New Hampshire.
Survival possibilities? It is possible I suppose, as a decomissioned submarine base and a nuclear power plant aren't as much a threat as other targets in the United States. Nuclear winter will be DAMN cold, but it is possible to survive I suppose. Decent farming area, low reliance on the government, and little to no gun restrictions. I think I would do pretty well.
Plus news: decommisioned subs and water access mean I might get to play like a Shi, heh. That, or get eaten by mutant fish.
[PCE]el_Prez
Vault Fossil
If this map is correct i'd be incincerated but i still doubt that anyone would want to waste a bomb on flagstaff. however If i knew the attack was coming it would be easy to escape the city.
Sebastian of the Wastes
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Well, there are several assumptions that need to be made for my situation.
I live within 5 miles of Limerick Nuclear Power Station in Pennsylania. I would call Limerick a major military target due to it's close proximity to Philadelphia (about 30 miles?) With a good prevailing wind, it's likely that Philly could see some of that radiation, for sure, and Philly is a big target steeped in History for this country.
So, if I'm HOME when the bombs drop, I'm probably toast. Especially if the attack comes at night, then I'm really done for and I probably won't even know it!
We'll pretend, for haha's, that I'm at work, which is about 30 miles south of the Power station, maybe 40 miles. My work location is far enough away from a direct target that we're looking at major risk from secondary fallout, but the initial attack will give us a small window of time to clear the area and possibly survive.
If Limerick were to be destroyed, it's likely that power would go out at my work area, which means that travel would quickly become very difficult by automobile. And I would want to travel, right away. Communication would be down too, probably, so I'd have to try and meet up with my fiance' somehow (makes me think I should have an emergency plan in mind.... I'll have to do that when I get home tonight).
I don't own a firearm, but I'll want to secure one as soon as possible. I'll probably try and get to a friends house as quickly as I can, as I know he's packing some major hardware at his place. I'd pick up at least one pistol and a decent amount of ammo. I won't need it right away, but as you can see from something like New Orleans, it won't take long for lawlessness to spread and survival from humans will become more pressing then survival from radiation.
After I'm packing a weapon, I'll probably try and meet up with my fiance' or parents .. which ever I can get to easily. Probably my parents (until I get that plan in action with said fiance'), they would be closer, and my mom will be freaking out she can't reach me. Then we'd probably take the back roads out of town and into Delaware. No one would waste a nuke on tiny Delaware. I mean, come on .. it's Delaware. Of course, I'd be kinda close to Wilmington, which could be a target too. I'd have to think about it from there.
Okay, this has gone on long enough:
If I'm home, my survival chance is minimal.
If I'm at work, I have a decent chance of surviving the initial strike.
Sebastian
I live within 5 miles of Limerick Nuclear Power Station in Pennsylania. I would call Limerick a major military target due to it's close proximity to Philadelphia (about 30 miles?) With a good prevailing wind, it's likely that Philly could see some of that radiation, for sure, and Philly is a big target steeped in History for this country.
So, if I'm HOME when the bombs drop, I'm probably toast. Especially if the attack comes at night, then I'm really done for and I probably won't even know it!
We'll pretend, for haha's, that I'm at work, which is about 30 miles south of the Power station, maybe 40 miles. My work location is far enough away from a direct target that we're looking at major risk from secondary fallout, but the initial attack will give us a small window of time to clear the area and possibly survive.
If Limerick were to be destroyed, it's likely that power would go out at my work area, which means that travel would quickly become very difficult by automobile. And I would want to travel, right away. Communication would be down too, probably, so I'd have to try and meet up with my fiance' somehow (makes me think I should have an emergency plan in mind.... I'll have to do that when I get home tonight).
I don't own a firearm, but I'll want to secure one as soon as possible. I'll probably try and get to a friends house as quickly as I can, as I know he's packing some major hardware at his place. I'd pick up at least one pistol and a decent amount of ammo. I won't need it right away, but as you can see from something like New Orleans, it won't take long for lawlessness to spread and survival from humans will become more pressing then survival from radiation.
After I'm packing a weapon, I'll probably try and meet up with my fiance' or parents .. which ever I can get to easily. Probably my parents (until I get that plan in action with said fiance'), they would be closer, and my mom will be freaking out she can't reach me. Then we'd probably take the back roads out of town and into Delaware. No one would waste a nuke on tiny Delaware. I mean, come on .. it's Delaware. Of course, I'd be kinda close to Wilmington, which could be a target too. I'd have to think about it from there.
Okay, this has gone on long enough:
If I'm home, my survival chance is minimal.
If I'm at work, I have a decent chance of surviving the initial strike.
Sebastian
Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
I live in Tarpon Springs, FL. The only thing of "renown" we have here is the Sponge Docks (hardly a nuclear target). It is about an hours drive to tampa from where I live but I doubt anyone would nuke tampa... What kind of sick bastard would blow up Ybor City?
Ok... nevermind, Fort Macdill is half a mile off north tampa. Shit.
Ok... nevermind, Fort Macdill is half a mile off north tampa. Shit.
I live in Croatia, which means someone would probably hit us by mistake. In other words, I'm dead.
Northen Star
First time out of the vault
But democracies don't wage war on each other. Why would a "friendly" exchange program solve anything if Indonesia still is part-free?quietfanatic said:
And my fate in Fallout: I live in a Stockholm suburb 15 minutes by subway from the centre of the city. I'd be dead.
Sincerley Yours
/Northen Star
GhostWhoTalks
First time out of the vault
think most people are over valuing their potential for being targetted, but this probably doesn't skew the survival ratio since I think most people are over-rating their chances at post blast survival.
The future of nuclear weapons is in smaller tactically applied nuclear weapons. Smaller is better in this case because it will be used inside a penetrator case for maximum deep-earth viability and more weapons can be produced due to the limitation on available nuclear material and wealth. Beyond this, the larger weapons have diminishing returns on the amount of additional blast energy you receive. It is much more economically feasible to field a large arsenal of smaller weapons than a small arsenal of exceedingly large weapons.
(I am well versed in targetting scenarios seeing as how my Dad is one of the guys who tells congress what cities will be targets and what the effects will be)
Primary targets are major military installations with those which are nuclear capable at the very top of the list. This serves to restrict the enemy's capability to counter attack.
Secondary targets are nuclear storage and production facilities (examples of this include major government laboratories which store nuclear materials). This serves to cripple an enemy's capability to create weapons in the near future which could result in a counter attack.
Tertiary targets are goverment and economic centers. So Washington DC and New York are your targets. This is to prevent the enemy from rebuilding.
Attacks will occur in that order assuming the enemy is using even a lick of sense. And as such living within the blast range of El Toro is a guaranteed screwage, but living near Houston means you had better have been smart enough to have gotten the Hell out of dodge long before the bombs fell there.
I would also like to point out that most nuclear effects of any lasting danger can be avoided using some precautions. As long as you avoid the effects of flash blindness, the flesh searing of the thermal pulse, and are far enough away to not get crushed by the blast winds, then you stand a very good chance of surviving long enough to get out of there with your life. The effects of EMP can lead to electrical discharge from large metal objects, and this is an effect which should be avoided if possible. Additionally ground activiation is not a very long-lived phenomena and as such you will be able to traverse ground previously affected by a nuclear blast without being irradiated by high doses of gamma rays.
Now fallout can present a danger to the uninitiated, but having read my dad's book on nuclear survival techniques I can be fairly sure that I would survive (at least initially) assuming I was in Riverside and not Livermore where my parents live, since my parents live only a few miles from LLNL where my dad works which is a secondary target. Irradiated dust will poison local food and water supplies and as such securing a sealed source of food and water will be essential to initial survival. Once you have secured food and water one's primary objective will be to achieve self-sufficieny through obtaining a means of hunting or foraging for food in an area with a native water supply that was outside the fallout zones. Remember people trucks are not going to continue delivering food to your local grocery store if all of a sudden nuclear war has decimated the country's economy and government. (EDIT): After some discussion with my dad it turns out that the byproducts listed on most websites is off and does not list the necessary gammas. Apparently ground activations by neutrons can make some fairly nasty gamma emmitors especially with veins of manganese and silver nearby. But as a good precaution getting a nice think blanket around you would be a good idea. It will stop alphas cold, and low energy betas. High energy betas and gammas are still going to give you a hard time.
Now I am pretty certain that without time to study up on local plant life I would be without a sustainable food source and would thusly be doomed to eventual extinction due to a lack of food and/or water. If by some miracle a nearby agricultural station were left intact (UCR does have green houses), then it might possible for me to farm enough food to survive, but it stands to reason some idiot would just as soon loot the place breaking the seal on the place in the process and thusly doom me yet again.
So on a scale of 1-10 I would rate my survival chances at a solid 5. Not great, but not piss poor either.
The future of nuclear weapons is in smaller tactically applied nuclear weapons. Smaller is better in this case because it will be used inside a penetrator case for maximum deep-earth viability and more weapons can be produced due to the limitation on available nuclear material and wealth. Beyond this, the larger weapons have diminishing returns on the amount of additional blast energy you receive. It is much more economically feasible to field a large arsenal of smaller weapons than a small arsenal of exceedingly large weapons.
(I am well versed in targetting scenarios seeing as how my Dad is one of the guys who tells congress what cities will be targets and what the effects will be)
Primary targets are major military installations with those which are nuclear capable at the very top of the list. This serves to restrict the enemy's capability to counter attack.
Secondary targets are nuclear storage and production facilities (examples of this include major government laboratories which store nuclear materials). This serves to cripple an enemy's capability to create weapons in the near future which could result in a counter attack.
Tertiary targets are goverment and economic centers. So Washington DC and New York are your targets. This is to prevent the enemy from rebuilding.
Attacks will occur in that order assuming the enemy is using even a lick of sense. And as such living within the blast range of El Toro is a guaranteed screwage, but living near Houston means you had better have been smart enough to have gotten the Hell out of dodge long before the bombs fell there.
I would also like to point out that most nuclear effects of any lasting danger can be avoided using some precautions. As long as you avoid the effects of flash blindness, the flesh searing of the thermal pulse, and are far enough away to not get crushed by the blast winds, then you stand a very good chance of surviving long enough to get out of there with your life. The effects of EMP can lead to electrical discharge from large metal objects, and this is an effect which should be avoided if possible. Additionally ground activiation is not a very long-lived phenomena and as such you will be able to traverse ground previously affected by a nuclear blast without being irradiated by high doses of gamma rays.
Now fallout can present a danger to the uninitiated, but having read my dad's book on nuclear survival techniques I can be fairly sure that I would survive (at least initially) assuming I was in Riverside and not Livermore where my parents live, since my parents live only a few miles from LLNL where my dad works which is a secondary target. Irradiated dust will poison local food and water supplies and as such securing a sealed source of food and water will be essential to initial survival. Once you have secured food and water one's primary objective will be to achieve self-sufficieny through obtaining a means of hunting or foraging for food in an area with a native water supply that was outside the fallout zones. Remember people trucks are not going to continue delivering food to your local grocery store if all of a sudden nuclear war has decimated the country's economy and government. (EDIT): After some discussion with my dad it turns out that the byproducts listed on most websites is off and does not list the necessary gammas. Apparently ground activations by neutrons can make some fairly nasty gamma emmitors especially with veins of manganese and silver nearby. But as a good precaution getting a nice think blanket around you would be a good idea. It will stop alphas cold, and low energy betas. High energy betas and gammas are still going to give you a hard time.
Now I am pretty certain that without time to study up on local plant life I would be without a sustainable food source and would thusly be doomed to eventual extinction due to a lack of food and/or water. If by some miracle a nearby agricultural station were left intact (UCR does have green houses), then it might possible for me to farm enough food to survive, but it stands to reason some idiot would just as soon loot the place breaking the seal on the place in the process and thusly doom me yet again.
So on a scale of 1-10 I would rate my survival chances at a solid 5. Not great, but not piss poor either.