Which do you like better? RPGs or Action Adventure games?

Discussion in 'General Fallout Discussion' started by Sn1p3r187, Sep 12, 2015.

  1. Sn1p3r187

    Sn1p3r187 Carolinian Shaolin Monk

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    Apr 7, 2014
    RPGs would be like:

    -Fallout

    -Silent Storm

    -Mass Effect

    -The Elder Scrolls

    - Dragon Age etc

    Action Adventure games would be like:

    -Grand Theft Auto

    -Far Cry

    -Red Dead Redemption

    -The Legend of Zelda

    -Metal Gear Solid 5 etc

    For me, well I'm kinda leaning on Action Adventure at the moment. Combat's a lot faster, though I do miss the gritty realism in Silent Storm when it came to damage indication and status effects like bleeding, deafness, blindness, crippled limbs. Good thing about both genres is the awesome mod support though I think Action Adventure has a wider variety of mods, unless I ain't checked NMA or Fallout nexus well enough. Replay ability of both gets to me a lot in Action Adventure, but it also has a lot more you can do once you complete the main story line. Which do you prefer playing? I honestly wish there was a way you could apply some of the combat mechanics that I mentioned from RPGs into Action Adventure games. But then again it might make people too easy to kill or too hard to kill.
     
  2. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    RPGs! And strategy ganes.
     
  3. PossibleCabbage

    PossibleCabbage Vault 22 Survivor

    889
    Jul 2, 2015
    I really only like RPGs, Strategy games, Rhythm games, Puzzle games, Stealth Games, Roguelikes, and Fighting Games. Insofar as I like something else, it's because it resembles one of those things. For example. I don't really enjoy shooters but I'll put up with it for something great like Alpha Protocol.
     
  4. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    I just like good games. Only genres I avoid are the Cinematic Shooter and the Puzzleless point and click game that Teltale has popularized.

    And Real time strategy and MOBAS I guess, but that's mostly because I suck at those.
     
  5. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Personally I find Mass Effect's entry as an RPG very iffy, it has some elements but I still feel it seriously lacks what would qualify it as a RPG, especially in the later entries. (however I would agree that the same would somewhat apply to Fallout New Vegas).

    Anyway I find it difficult to choose as I find both game genres fun, it really depends on the title in question.
    I guess action adventure would win at the moment as there has not been a decent sci fi RPG in ages.
     
  6. Radiosity

    Radiosity Writiosity

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    Sep 9, 2015
    Mass Effect is a third person shooter with RPG elements like levelups and skills. It doesn't really let you truly roleplay, it's either Paragon or Renegade, or if you want all the worst outcomes possible, a mix of both, because Bioware didn't consider that maybe a system that lets you alter your strategy a bit depending on who you're talking to might be a nice idea.

    And overall, RPGs for me, though the term is a bit murky. I enjoy Japanese games a great deal, but they're similar to Mass Effect in that you're effectively just playing the role, instead of roleplaying.
     
  7. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Half-way Through My Half-life

    Nov 26, 2007
    I wouldn't say that either are better; it's like comparing hammers to pipe wrenches.
    Sure, you can bang a nail (or try to pull one) with a pipe wrench, but it's not really suited; and good luck trying to loosen or tighten a pipe with a hammer.

    Games ~like tools, are usually suited best for their intended task.
     
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  8. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Only the first Mass Effect was an RPG, altho a kind of clumsy one. From Mass Effect 2 on they just became Third person shooters with dialogue, can't really take the "level ups" as RPG mechanics when you had absolutely no diversifying or specialization, all Engineers played the same and the few instances of "choice" in skills was between More damage or Bigger area of damage.
     
  9. PossibleCabbage

    PossibleCabbage Vault 22 Survivor

    889
    Jul 2, 2015
    I've found that "trying to pin down what a roleplaying game is" is a pretty slippery thing and kind of a waste of everybody's time. More or less, if you think something is an RPG then it is as far as you're concerned, and if it's not it's not. For me, Mass Effect (all three of them) were absolutely RPGs since I roleplayed the heck out of my Shepherds, and I felt the game gave me enough space to express what I wanted to express. Other people might not have done that and may subsequently feel differently.

    Personally I don't think RPGs have a darn thing to do with "mechanics" and have everything to do with the game providing you negative space in which to express something about the character you're playing. I mean, name any "RPG Mechanic" and I've most likely played an RPG without it.
     
  10. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Actually all game genres are all about the mechanics, that's kind of what makes games. That definition of RPG you give makes every single game into an RPG if the person is willing to pretend enough.
     
  11. naossano

    naossano So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 19, 2006
    Games with focus on C n C.
    They are like an oasis in the middle of a planet-sized desert.
     
  12. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Glad to hear that I am not the only one who can not really put Mass Effect down as a RPG. It just lacks elements I think that make up a real Computer Role Playing experience.
    It is more than just stat building and career options, and deciding what weapons and skills to specialize in.

    To be honest, even as a third person shooter it feels somewhat lacking but there hasn't really been any descent first and third person sci fi shooters in a while.
     
  13. Vault Maker

    Vault Maker Vault-Tec Cartographer

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    Jun 27, 2006
    Choices that are hard. Consequences that are mixed.

    Where the water in the oasis always contains dust blowing in off that desert, and you know that no matter how much you drink, you can still feel the grit, like glass in your throat.

    Fallout 1 and 2, Torment...there's not too many games I've played in that class.

    Of course the choice isn't entirely there in Torment, but it sure feels like it is.
     
  14. SnapSlav

    SnapSlav NMA's local DotA fanatic

    Jul 1, 2012
    A poetic twist on that analogy. Dunno if it's appropriately fitting, but it certainly is haunting.

    As for me, I just like a good game. It's easier to specify which games I DO NOT like versus which I do like. For instance, sports games are an easy pick for shit I just do not bother with. I couldn't find it fun in the 90s when they were simpler, and I've yet to find them the tiniest bit entertaining now that they've grown into these soulless franchise juggernauts. But were I to try and say "I like this kind of game", it just wouldn't be enough, because I'd still need to account for the GAME itself, not merely the category it arbitrarily falls into. For instance, I love Dota2, and because a certain company decided to invent their own genre term and retroactively apply the name to their product's predecessor, despite the fact that Dota already fell into the category of ARTS (or ASSFAGGOTS, if you wanna be technical, and no small degree of smarmy), it now gets lumped into the silly genre title of "MOBA", despite originating games, and already being part of a much more specific genre. Consequently, I just don't care for the other games in that genre. I don't wanna play any of the copycat dozens of titles I can find on Steam (and I have found MANY), I don't wanna play Smite, I have Dota2. I don't care about the rest. But like one, and some would argue that means I can like them all. I strongly disagree.

    I've played excellent Adventure (not Action Adventure) games and loved them and I've played mediocre Adventure games and enjoyed them and I've played TERRIBLE Adventure games and hated their very existence. I really just like the goods ones. I wouldn't say that, just because of those former titles, I'm somehow "drawn to" Adventure games. Same with RPGs. There was a great emptiness left when the classic Fallout games ceased being created, and that hole has yet to be filled, for me. So while I do look for the next title to FINALLY pick up the mantle, I don't really spent my days looking for any and every RPG. I actively tell my friends who play TES games that they should be more discerning, and I mean it. Likewise, I'm glad I played COD4 when it came out, and I really had a blast enjoying its rewarding multiplayer for many months after the single player stopped blowing my mind. I bought the rest of the Modern Warfare trilogy just to finish the story, but neither of them did anything for me like COD4 did. Also, I was playing and loving shooters (which would eventually come to be called FPS) back when they were INVENTED. So you'd think I'd buy every COD or BF game as they come out, right? Nope. I just want to play really good games. So I wait and I watch, and I pick out the good ones to play. Haven't played a really great FPS in a long time. Same with RPG.

    So which do I like more? Neither. It's all a matter of the games themselves. I can say without a doubt that Action Adventure games have been releasing WAY better titles amongst their own genre over the past couple decades, compared to RPGs. But that just means I really liked Uncharted 2. Again, just a game, not the totality of the genre.
     
  15. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    The only Sports games I like are the Inazuma Elevn games because they are combined with turn based rpg strategy. They also have ridiculous football magic attacks.
     
  16. Delbert

    Delbert Vault-Tec Employee

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    Sep 16, 2015
    I like variety, but I'd say I like RPG games noticeably more.