Why 3 was better than 4

Doomsdayprepper69 said:
This thread was made actually to prove whether it was better than fallout 4, not one or two, so lets stay on topic. I guess what its about is figuring it out for yourself. Perhaps he came across on some kind of post apocalypse transatlantic cruise service, or has a teleportation machine etc.

Wow, when someone has a different opinion its "shitpostin".

I guess we'll just have to disagree that those are not qualities a game needs, apart from the lore bit, and Fallout 3 does that pretty well

yeah lets avoid that

Izak, that is the most passive aggressive statement I have ever heard and don't deny it XD
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Guilty as charged! XD But in all seriousness. I think it's a stupid thing to say and they don't really know what a "trigger" is.
 
Doomsdayprepper69 said:
Its sort of when you trigger someone you piss them off.
I was joking btw, I don't get triggered. its one of those dumb SJW things
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Yeah I know. That's why I said it was stupid. In actual terms it's referring to when someone is having a PTSD episode and what sets them off or triggers them. SJWs are just stupid people trying to act intelligent and trying to protect what they don't understand.
 
Doomsdayprepper69 said:
Izak, that is the most passive aggressive statement I have ever heard and don't deny it XD
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Tis' indeed quite passive aggressive.
Doomsdayprepper69 said:
I guess what its about is figuring it out for yourself. Perhaps he came across on some kind of post apocalypse transatlantic cruise service, or has a teleportation machine etc.
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I'm not going to come up with excuses for the writers, I don't expect a book to come half finished with a note saying "Just figure out the rest for yourself".
Doomsdayprepper69 said:
This thread was made actually to prove whether it was better than fallout 4, not one or two, so lets stay on topic.
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If you wanted to compare these two then you shouldn't have finished your last post by saying "Fallout 3 is the epitome of gaming greatness", or whatever you said about it.
 
Actually I agree. Fallout 3 is better then 4, how kangaroo shit is better then cow shit because it's smaller and doesn't smell as bad.
 
looks like I created rather the shitstorm with this thread
I'm not going to come up with excuses for the writers, I don't expect a book to come half finished with a note saying "Just figure out the rest for yourself".
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They put huge amounts of lore and story into the game, using your imagination for something minor isn't that much of an offence.
If you wanted to compare these two then you shouldn't have finished your last post by saying "Fallout 3 is the epitome of gaming greatness", or whatever you said about it.
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All this proves is that you are finding excuses to talk about how 1 and 2 is better than 3. Just because I said it was the epitome of gaming greatness does not mean you need to make reference to the earlier games (which were also members of the gaming greatness club).
SJWs are just stupid people trying to act intelligent and trying to protect what they don't understand.
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Ain't that the truth.
And what's more, they tend to become bigoted and sexist pricks themselves.
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Doomsdayprepper69 said:
They put huge amounts of lore and story into the game, using your imagination for something minor isn't that much of an offence.
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Yep, they put huge amounts of effort into mashing the stories from Fallout 1 & 2 into an easy to consume paste, then porting it into the shitty engine they've been using since 2002.
The relatively small amount of new lore was vapid, dumb and nonsensical, e.g Liberty Prime, Mole Rat China invasion force, President Eden, more shit I can't and don't want to remember.
Doomsdayprepper69 said:
All this proves is that you are finding excuses to talk about how 1 and 2 is better than 3. Just because I said it was the epitome of gaming greatness does not mean you need to make reference to the earlier games (which were also members of the gaming greatness club).
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If the game doesn't compare favourably to its predecessors then it has failed; if it isn't close to them in terms of quality and content then it is not in the same class of greatness, instead it gets its own little class which is significantly closer to Fallout 4 then it is to 1, 2 and New Vegas.
 
You know Kangaroos managed to shit just about everywhere in the yard at my old house, their poop was hard so it wouldn't crush underfoot and it didn't really smell at all.
At a guess, Dr Fallout has had a similar experience with kangaroo shit.
 
Fallout 4 wins over 3 because it has better visual design, a better designed wasteland and actually fun gameplay. It's literally an upgraded version of Fallout 3 with popular 2010s gaming elements stuffed in.
 
Fallout 4 is Fallout 3 without any of the RPG elements, sure Bethesda didn't implement those elements very well in Fallout 3 but at least they were still there. Fallout 4 would be significantly better if they stopped pretending it was an RPG but as of now they're still carrying out that charade, they've failed as hard as they could have when making FO4, therefore it's shit.
 
If fallout 3 was the phantom menace (pointless and mediocre cash grab mostly self contained) then fallout 4 is highlander 2 (pointless mediocre, insulting, disrespecful and retcons just so goddamn many things and may retroactively ruin its predecessors.)
 
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I tried playing through Fallout 3 again recently myself. Just so I could point out to people why Fallout 3 is miles better than FO4, and I just couldn't do it. It really just felt like, unlike in New Vegas, my decisions didn't mean jack squat when it came to the world. Perfect example I can think of from that playthrough that made me quit:

So my character was always a fan of horror movie night in the vault. He loves everything scary and horrifying. So of course, he really really likes ghouls. So much so that when he finds out Roy and his friends aren't being let into Tenpenny Towers, he decides to help Roy out by following Roy's evil plan of letting the ghouls in to slaughter everyone.

So my character did just that. he managed to pickpocket the key to the room off of Gustavo and made his way down to the generator, opening it up for ghouls to flood the place. When he went upstairs with the ghoul mask, the whole place was in chaos. Bodies everywhere, people screaming bloody murder, guards shooting at ghouls desperately before dying, every door in the place broken wide open, all the electricity in the building shut off, it was so atmospheric. I absolutely loved it. I thought to myself: My God, this game actually has some fucking atmosphere!

And then.. I leave Tenpenny Towers to go pick up some supplies and let the ghouls move in. And when I come back? Everything's perfectly fine. All the doors are fixed, the electricity's back on, there's no bodies or gore anywhere, nothing's destroyed. Everything's back to the way it was with the exception of the hotel now being filled with nonferal ghouls instead of people. After only 2 in-game hours. Seeing the hotel go from a site of a massacre to being perfectly okay again broke any immersion I had, and I haven't played the game since. Yes, it was that bad.

Give it a try for yourself, you'll understand how fucking jarring it is. Terrible, just terrible. It was going so well too!
 
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