Wintermind
Vault Senior Citizen
The game was about well written as The Walking Dead, and that's fucking saying something. If you want a much longer list of things, look up a LP of the game on this site or on RPGCodex.
Lexx said:It is simply a bad game, imo. Even without the Fallout name it would have a stupid story, a non-sensical gameworld, and a horrible fucked up skill system.
What about the gameworld was unrealistic or didn't make sense? Aside from the impossibility of gigantic bugs.
Todd Howard by himself said something like "there is no design phase" or no clue, they go straight from the "brainstorming" to the "programming" or "making" of the game.Lexx said:I'll guess many people are overlooking such elements, because it requires a little bit of thinking. There, I said it. People are too lazy to think about what they consume. It even shows that the developers didn't cared about a coherent game world... or if they did in the design process, they forgot about putting it into the actual game.
Crni Vuk said:Todd Howard by himself said something like "there is no design phase" or no clue, they go straight from the "brainstorming" to the "programming" or "making" of the game.Lexx said:I'll guess many people are overlooking such elements, because it requires a little bit of thinking. There, I said it. People are too lazy to think about what they consume. It even shows that the developers didn't cared about a coherent game world... or if they did in the design process, they forgot about putting it into the actual game.
Yeah ... certainly the best way to do it. Ignore the 30-40 years of experience in software development and don't care about a correct design phase. Thats exactly the reason why you have situations in F3 where your followers, perfectly immune to radiation, like the Supermutant, the Ghoul or the Robot refuse to perform some action thats completely harmless to them as they don't want to rob you from your "destiny" to sacrifise your self for the wasteland. Wtf.
And people seriously ask whats wrong with F3 ...
TorontRayne said:awful Fallout fans. The worst kind of fan really. The kind that overlooks or is oblivious to the games faults, even though they are so in your face it is ridiculous.
I hear that a lot and I don't think its accurate. people believe the console killed the PC star.pipboy-x11 said:TorontRayne said:awful Fallout fans. The worst kind of fan really. The kind that overlooks or is oblivious to the games faults, even though they are so in your face it is ridiculous.
Those are just typical console gamers. Who are used to Barbi-type characters, easily welding swords bigger than herself with one hand, swiping out hordes of enemies right and left, making flashes and small earthquakes in the process.
They are in it for the money. Thats hardly a secret though. And I am not sure if I believe those "we are all die hard Fallout fans" by Todd and his people.Chaito said:So as you can see, we hate it because they grabbed a masterpiece and they modified it to sell million copies rather to be loyal with the saga. All explanations are reduced to that.
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Wintermind said:I actually had a sort of crazy fever dream of a good Fallout 3.
For starters, things made more... sense. It might have been set earlier after the war than 2077. Don't remember the exact date of it, but the devastation and general state of repair was much more believable. Partly because it was different. Most rubble had been cleared to be used as fortifications or walls or other building materials. DC was mostly covered in ruins, and the subway tunnels were more actively used by civilized people, so they were cleared of debris and fortified in places, with some stations being lived in, Metro 2033 style.There were hydroponic farms that people lived on, in more than one area. So while you were apt to spend a lot of time in the metro, they were at least, different, interesting, and fun to fight in. Also somewhat necessary to move around the city, which was full of useful supplies left over from before the war.
There was also no godawful map/guidance thing. You had maps on your pip boy, but they were old, and outdated street maps of the area. You had to find maps of various things (like the subway network) from working computers or holotapes, and then had to correct the records to match reality, and fortifications and etc made by the people of wastes.
Crni Vuk said:I hear that a lot and I don't think its accurate. people believe the console killed the PC star.
But I actually enjoyed for many years playing console games and I have some great memories with them.
Crni Vuk said:You know what I think is the real truth? The so called dumbing down happened on all platforms. Not just the PC. And the reason sure is not the console here. Its just a symptom.
Crni Vuk said:So why do this publishers/developers believe their playerbase to be THAT dumb?
Finwei said:I personally liked the game, but do not regard it as a Fallout game. It was an alright post-apocalyptic game, but a terrible Fallout game
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