World Cup 2010 South Africa

I am just glad the octopus abuse has finally ended.

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A rough but ultimately awesome game!

No more world cup though :(

Also,
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Finally!! :dance:
 
Such a shame.

Congratulations to Spain, who are the deserved winners. They had just a tiny bit more luck with the refereeing decisions (though De Jong should've gotten a red card for his assault on Xabi Alonso), but their win is entirely just. This was truly a close game, and had the Dutch found a the net with any of their several opportunities, most notably through Robben, I'm sure the game wouldv'e gone the other way. But it didn't, so all I ca say is: enjoy the title, Spain, it is well-deserved.
 
Tough to see, this game... and the ref really let me down, I thought Howard Webb was the least lousy in this Cup, yet he really seemed to be struggling to not send anyone off before extra time. Well, back to shitty club football, in my case at least.
 
iii said:
maximaz said:
Spain owns soccer now. To get the euro cup and then the next world cup is just bad ass. The game was pretty ugly though.

So what... we did the same in '72 and '74. :mrgreen:

Well then whoever you are were pretty badass in 72 and 74. Who are "you" by the way?
 
It was scrappy affair…I think the Dutch let themselves down, their approach was too defensive, and all of the unnecessary yellow cards didn’t help their cause. The red card late the second half was a poor decision by the referee, but the earlier kick to the chest of the Spanish player was definitely a red card offence…so its karma. The Spanish football game is far more beautiful than the Dutch counter attack approach, but I give full credit to the Dutch, they played some wonderful football during the tournament, and I think their second half against Brazil was some of the best football in the whole competition. In my opinion the final should be the best of three matches; one match isn’t telling enough to determine the quality of a team.
 
Well deserved win for spain. I wanted holland to win though. I like the dutchies more than the spaniards! :)

Two of the most beautiful goals in this world cup:

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Zxj8W5B-U[/youtube]
 
I wish I could just say "we were outplayed and deserved to lose to a beautiful playing side", and I'm sure some pundits would have it that way, but it's not the case. This was a shitty, ugly game, mostly from the Dutch side but I can only be amused at the way a blind eye is turned on ugly play from the Spanish side. Neither side really deserved to win (tho' "deserving" to win is an asinine concept, if you won you deserved to win), but obviously one side has to win. So it's the Spanish? Eh, that's how it goes.

They had just a tiny bit more luck with the refereeing decisions

I don't think that's really relevant, who had more luck with what. What is relevant is that Howard Webb was easily the most important man on the field, and single-handedly determined the way the game progressed. Something that, by his own standards, should never happen to a top ref.

And it doesn't help when he's that mistake-prone. De Jong should have never stayed on the field. Iniesta should not have been on the field either, after kicking at van Bommel. Neither of Heitinga's fouls was worth a red card. It was not a goal kick but a corner prior to the score. The most hilarious might be the yellow card on van der Wiel when he did not even physically touch his opponent. That's quite a lot of influence from a ref.

Shame, but it's not his fault that it was such an ugly game.

The Dutch deconstructed the Spanish "beautiful" football more effectively than most sides this World Cup, and the Spanish continued their incredible streak to become the worst finishers ever to win a World Cup. They also got clearly frustrated at being forechecked as they were, they did not outplay the Dutch offensively, at all. Defensively perhaps.

Fuck it. It's only fitting. A sloppy, amateur-league 3rd-place match and a brutal, shitty, foul-filled Finals. Possibly the worst World Cup Finals of all time, to finish what might well be the worst World Cup of all time. Only fitting.

I'd rather have lost a beautiful final game to a team that plays creative, fast football than this shite tho.
 
Brother None said:
I'd rather have lost a beautiful final game to a team that plays creative, fast football than this shite tho.
I'm from Argentina and believe me, it doesn't feel so good either :P
 
Brother None said:
tho' "deserving" to win is an asinine concept, if you won you deserved to win

Doping.

:roll:

Some people simply do not deserve to win. Like the Dutch. It's a punishment from God because the Dutch have hideous women, both hideously big and hideously blond. Spanish women, on the other hand, look like fucking candy. Tanned beauties with dark pubes, what is there not to love about that? Also: statistics show that more than 85% of Spanish women have Greek feet, while more than 75% of Dutch women have square feet (to support the bulk on top).

Just saying. Move along.
 
Alec... we (or at least I, from reading a random thread in TO) know you don't like feets anymore :p.
But if you go with the 'support the team with the greatest chicks' approach, I think I'd personnally go for Italia. A shame their football isn't up to par with the boob-to-waist ratio of their chicks this year.
 
zkylon said:
Brother None said:
I'd rather have lost a beautiful final game to a team that plays creative, fast football than this shite tho.
I'm from Argentina and believe me, it doesn't feel so good either :P
Not with that kind of high scoring :mrgreen:
 
Brother None said:
(...)This was a shitty, ugly game, mostly from the Dutch side but I can only be amused at the way a blind eye is turned on ugly play from the Spanish side. Neither side really deserved to win (...)

I couldn't disagree more...

Brother None said:
I don't think that's really relevant, who had more luck with what. What is relevant is that Howard Webb was easily the most important man on the field, and single-handedly determined the way the game progressed. Something that, by his own standards, should never happen to a top ref.

I don't know about that particular ref standards but i think he did mostly a good job avoiding messing up the game by expelling a player from the game at the very first time of it and later on as well, i mean, you claim the game was shitty, how much shitty would it have been if one or the two teams have had to play with one or two man less even from the first time of the game onward?

Brother None said:
Neither of Heitinga's fouls was worth a red card.

He didn't get a red card for either one of them, he got two yellows.

Brother None said:
Shame, but it's not his fault that it was such an ugly game.

It was not.

Brother None said:
(...)they did not outplay the Dutch offensively, at all. Defensively perhaps..

And neither did the Dutch outplayed them offensively; they were very even, anyone of them could've won, that's one of the reasons why the game was so good.

Both teams played with much 'hunger' and that's perhaps the reason for the rough play but the good football was there too, some people may not like the Spanish playstyle (or some other playstyle for that matter, throughout the years for instance, i've heard a lot of people hating on the Italian general 'defensive-counter' playstyle) but that doesn't make it bad football at all.

Brother None said:
Fuck it. It's only fitting. A sloppy, amateur-league 3rd-place match and a brutal, shitty, foul-filled Finals. Possibly the worst World Cup Finals of all time, to finish what might well be the worst World Cup of all time. Only fitting.

Oh c'mon!... i'm not gonna claim that this was the best world cup ever or anything of the sort but the above is... do not compute.

To each his own i guess. :shrug:
 
still you can play a much nicer soccer wthout so much fouls. Or do we have to return to italian soccer ;)
 
Crni Vuk said:
still you can play a much nicer soccer wthout so much fouls. Or do we have to return to italian soccer ;)

Oh, of course. I just think it's a whole lot of exaggeration to call the final, the 3rd place game and even the whole world cup ugly-shitty-worst of all time. But as i said, to each his own. :shrug:
 
well I have to say that I share BNs oppinion in many ways and even if I am not a profesional soccer fan I still think from the cups I have seen this one was probably the weakest. Maybe there have been many worse games in the past. But that should not be a gauge for games. Most of the clubs with famous names played very bad games ~ just take france as example. And I think Spain and the Netherlands made not many exceptions here. Just compare the way Spain played with Germany and how they played in the final game.
 
Brother None said:
I wish I could just say "we were outplayed and deserved to lose to a beautiful playing side", and I'm sure some pundits would have it that way, but it's not the case. This was a shitty, ugly game, mostly from the Dutch side but I can only be amused at the way a blind eye is turned on ugly play from the Spanish side. Neither side really deserved to win (tho' "deserving" to win is an asinine concept, if you won you deserved to win), but obviously one side has to win. So it's the Spanish? Eh, that's how it goes.

If you look at the history of World Cup finals, the final this time around was actually a fairly resounding result. In 1990 there was three (?) red cards not to mention the Zidane - incident last time around, and the penalty shootout of 1994, etc.
 
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