Zegh's Dinosaur Thread

If Dinosaurs were created by Satan then that's fucking metal as fuck.
More Rock than metal:
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http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/12/health/teleocrater-dinosaur-crocodile-study-trnd/index.html

  • Newly identified dino cousin could change understandings on how dinosaurs evolved
  • The Teleocrater had crocodile-like features, and was probably terrifying

I love that newspaper lingo "it was probably terrifying" :D

But yeah, Teleocrater is an interesting archosaur, it had an unusually long neck for that branch of animals.
Back then, a lot of animals were "crocodile-like" of various kinds, while today only crocodiles (and birds) remain of that particular lineage
 
Wonder what life would be like if Dinosaurs existed in the modern world.

Would the threat of Trex attack be a major concern of the public?
 
Wonder what life would be like if Dinosaurs existed in the modern world.

Would the threat of Trex attack be a major concern of the public?

If anything, we would probably have clashed untill settlement (one of us die out) in early history of modern man, as in, T woulda gone the way the european lion went, for example. No room for it, unless it kept the fuckahell out of our way.

Then again, I'm not sure HOW we would kill it - in our early history. Throw spears at it... ? Fossil records show T's fought each others... how are we supposed to beat that?
 
If anything, we would probably have clashed untill settlement (one of us die out) in early history of modern man, as in, T woulda gone the way the european lion went, for example. No room for it, unless it kept the fuckahell out of our way.

Then again, I'm not sure HOW we would kill it - in our early history. Throw spears at it... ? Fossil records show T's fought each others... how are we supposed to beat that?

We would probably have to avoid the bigger carnivores since they would be bigger than any carnivores we faced during the ice age. Maybe dinosaurs would be domesticated? Used in war?
 
We would probably have to avoid the bigger carnivores since they would be bigger than any carnivores we faced during the ice age. Maybe dinosaurs would be domesticated? Used in war?

Possibly, we use both horses and elephants. One problem is that we don't really know how cooperative they'd be, and it's very difficult to educatedly guess.
Elephants are very intelligent, but unpredictable in frightening combat situations, prone to their famous panicky stampedes.
Any large weapony dinosaur would be less intelligent - for better or worse? No way of saying.

Maybe some of the famous raptors, but that would be like throwing extant tigers and lions into war, and we never did that, because they instinctively avoid overwhelming situations like that, and we cannot ride them.

Sorry, most answers here would be just "no way of knowing" :D

The vast majority of large animals today are simply not very useful in war... the easyest answer would be that - they would probably not be very useful.
 
Human population would probably concentrate on places with colder climates if Dinosaurs still existed.
 
Human population would probably concentrate on places with colder climates if Dinosaurs still existed.

Would do nothing. Dinosaurs thrived in any climate, as fossils from both northern Alaska, as well as Antarctica has shown. With the innate ability to grow dense fur, they could easily wade through snow to eat people, if necesary.

Some of these arctic dinosaurs seems to have had good night vision developed, for the shorter days, longer nights, overall darkness. And yes, at the time polar climate was still polar. Not quite as freezing as today, but still polar. I'm sure they could have adapted to todays arctic climate because penguins have done exactly that ;]

In other words, nowhere to run
 
Would do nothing. Dinosaurs thrived in any climate, as fossils from both northern Alaska, as well as Antarctica has shown. With the innate ability to grow dense fur, they could easily wade through snow to eat people, if necesary.

Some of these arctic dinosaurs seems to have had good night vision developed, for the shorter days, longer nights, overall darkness. And yes, at the time polar climate was still polar. Not quite as freezing as today, but still polar. I'm sure they could have adapted to todays arctic climate because penguins have done exactly that ;]

In other words, nowhere to run

Didn't know that. Could you post a picture, an 'artists rendering', of what these northern dinos may have looked like?
 
Didn't know that. Could you post a picture, an 'artists rendering', of what these northern dinos may have looked like?

Nanuqsaurus, of Alaska
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(image lifted straight off Wikipedia)

Leaellynasaura, of Australia (which at the time was polar)
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Leaellynasaura had both very large eyes, as well as an unusually long tail for a herbivorous biped (something this illustration fails to showcase properly, as is common with a lot of paleo-art). It is speculated that the tail would wrap around its body, for warmth, during sleep for example.
These kinds of bipeds were thought fur/feather-less, untill a Siberian discovery (Kulindadromeus) showed that not only were they capable of growing fur, but they were also quite poofy at that, with long tufts growing from their legs
 
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Would do nothing. Dinosaurs thrived in any climate, as fossils from both northern Alaska, as well as Antarctica has shown. With the innate ability to grow dense fur, they could easily wade through snow to eat people, if necesary.

Some of these arctic dinosaurs seems to have had good night vision developed, for the shorter days, longer nights, overall darkness. And yes, at the time polar climate was still polar. Not quite as freezing as today, but still polar. I'm sure they could have adapted to todays arctic climate because penguins have done exactly that ;]

In other words, nowhere to run

War Trex's :D
 
War Trex's :D

Did you ever come across Dinotopia?
As a dino-nerd I got the books as a kid, and my mom even read them for me :D
The concept is interesting, albeit a bit far fetched (such as talking Troodon, to exemplify its intelligence. Sure, they were brainy, but not quite that brainy!)
They show several animals as for example work-beasts. This is much more likely than war beasts, since we DO see a lot more diversity in animals used to pull and lift for us, elephants, buffalos, horses and donkeys, camels and llamas, reindeer, even moose in some cases. We use predators like wolves (dogs) as sentries, as well as companions, we use cats to clear vermin - and again as companions, and we do still keep surviving dinosaurs as companionship pets (parrots) as well as for hunting (falconry)

So, for non-war use, we probably COULD use dinosaurs for a lot of things. Also for eating!

As for Dinotopia, give it a look-see, it's very well illustrated, by the author himself, and the anatomy is very up to date for its time. The same guy also did artwork for National Geographic
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There are many books, but I only read the first. Tyrannosaurus only makes one appearance there, as a wild, untamable carnivore, that - in order to deal with - traveling traders will carry a ton of fish with them, to dump in case of an attack. Tyrannosaurus would then U-turn for the load of free fish, and gobble it up (similar to how you're supposed to escape a hungry bear)
 
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