Favorite and least favortie retcons?

Discussion in 'Fallout 4' started by Ben Soto, Jul 30, 2017.

  1. Black Angel

    Black Angel Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus

    Mar 21, 2016
    Wait, what? I thought Dr. Li was with James since the beginning of Project Purity or something?
     
  2. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    She was, but when James gives up on it after his wife dies, Dr Li goes to Rivet City.

    EDIT:
    Since James recognises the Enclave on sight I just roll with the idea he was once a member...somehow.

    James is a shit character anyway.
     
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  3. Walpknut

    Walpknut Testament to the ghoul lifespan

    Dec 30, 2010
    Wasn't Dr Li from the Institute?
     
  4. Black Angel

    Black Angel Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus

    Mar 21, 2016
    Oh , I thought James and Dr. Li was already in Rivet City doing Project Purity. Guess I was just making things up.
     
  5. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    Oh right. I can't remember too much to be fair.

    I don't think so, I think she joined after Fallout 3. Again I can't quite recall.
     
  6. Risewild

    Risewild Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    Nope, Dr Li only goes to Rivet City 18 years before the Lone Wanderer meets her (which is the same time as when the Lone Wanderer is born). We know this because Pinkerton (the "founder" of the scientific community which Rivet City was formed around) tells us that Dr Li arrived 18 years ago and took his authority by making his colleagues join her in the project of try and get purified water. Pinkerton then leaves to the broken bow of the carrier.

    Dr Li is not from the Institute because Dr. Zimmer doesn't recognize her and he keeps insulting the scientists in Rivet City saying stuff like they can't compare to the Institute personnel and all of that. If Li was from the Institute, Zimmer would recognize her and/or talk about her.
    She later moves to the Institute because (I assume) of Zimmer not shut up about how it is a technological marvel and all of that.
     
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  7. Cobra Commander

    Cobra Commander Still Mildly Glowing

    Dec 6, 2016
    Only in F4.
    haha, makes sense XD
     
  8. Walpknut

    Walpknut Testament to the ghoul lifespan

    Dec 30, 2010
    Bethesda's writing is so shit. Thread.
     
  9. NMLevesque

    NMLevesque Commie Ghost

    Jul 2, 2016
    PA insofar as it's actually big again. In FO your character shot up to 7 ft w/ it. In FO2 npcs called you a walking tank and even referenced the battle mech genre. That in 4 it is the only thing that breaks is the dumbest thing ever. It's true that it should never be too big to fit through standard doorways, the size shifting-barely bigger than my naked body ones in 3 and NV lacked something critical to the equation. Going back to anyone can wear it while making it plentiful/everywhere by adding a quickly expended fuel source just kills the idea. Not just because it was the atomic power mythos made reality, but bc it was always like Excalibur. Something of great mystery and power, that was a quest in of itself, but also integral to your grand quest (optional in an rpg).
     
  10. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    Power armour is by no means small, indeed it makes the player model a good 7 feet tall, or so, although even then, it is dwarfed by supermutants, robots, etc.

    Doorways in Fallout 1-2 were rather huge for no real reason other than 'well, we need to let deathclaws, mutants, and power armour fit in...', but the depiction in FO4 is ridiculous, it feels clunky, like something which would be shot to pieces (and ingame, said thing actually happens...)
     
  11. Harangerish

    Harangerish First time out of the vault

    Aug 3, 2017
    My favorite's gotta be the kid in a fridge. I never really got to that quest, but when I read about it, I laughed my ass off. Not does it not make any sense in the world of Fallout, but it makes no sense in the real world.
     
  12. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Favorite one? Uh... I go for cats surviving the Great War as well (because I am a cat lover)

    Least favorite? So many to choose from, in general I hate a lot of Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 completely.
    But I go for Ghouls as well, these are suppose to be very rare kinds of mutations. I don't mind that there are more Ghoul populations than just the one from the Bakersfield Vault as otherwise if Black Isle/Obsidian had continued the Fallout series themselves Ghouls would be rare, if not seen at all outside the Core Region (thought it would be interesting to see what mutant types we would have seen instead), but I hate the whole retcon that Ghouls are created by exposure to high levels of radiation within a matter of hours instead of it being a process that that requires unique mutagenic elements as well as radiation and takes several years.

    Oh and Ghouls now mostly being running zombies with the ones in FO4 being the size of Super Mutants and packing quite a punch.

    No point to further dwell on this, Fallout is dead anyway.
     
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  13. Harangerish

    Harangerish First time out of the vault

    Aug 3, 2017
    Argh, least favorite. I'm not a real Fallout lore master. I'm more attuned to TES lore, especially the lore on the province of Morrowind. I don't really have a least favorite.
     
  14. NMLevesque

    NMLevesque Commie Ghost

    Jul 2, 2016
    Ooh, least favorite retcon would be when they decided in Fo4 that the Enclave weren't a secret. One of those Boston Herald entries on their terminals.
     
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  15. BDI898

    BDI898 First time out of the vault

    Aug 13, 2017
    My least favorite retcon is probably the colour of ghouls, I think most ghouls being greenish fits them a lot more.