Shares in a U.K. oil company with interests in the Falklands have slumped

Gonzalez

Gonzalez

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Shares in a U.K. oil company with interests in the Falklands have slumped after a U.N. decision that Argentina claims will expand its maritime territory in the South Atlantic Ocean to include the islands.

Rockhopper Exploration PLC shares were down 5.3 percent to 27.00 pence early Tuesday after Argentina said the U.N. Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf sided with Buenos Aires.

Argentina says its maritime territory has expanded by 35 percent to include what it calls the Malvinas. Britain, which is responsible for defense and foreign affairs for the islands, has not yet commented.

The Falkland Islands government is seeking clarification from the U.K. on the implications of the U.N. ruling.

Argentina lost a 1982 war with Britain after Argentine troops seized the South Atlantic archipelago.
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HA! If anything we've now hit you in your pockets. And with the oil prices so low and the extraction in the area so expensive, those oil explorations will be a total fiasco.

Keep refusing to negotiate, we'll eventually get the islands back either way anyway.
 
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If being butthurt promotes actions like these to recover our land, then I say use it...

The day we are no longer butthurt about it will be a sad day for my country. Bring it on.
 
Cool, then it's just one island, East Falkland, that means West Falkland and the South Georgias and Sandwich islands are ours, because no one lives in them and they are in our sea territory. The less than 2.000 inbred sheep sodomizers that live in the diminute village of Stanley can be british all they want. Hell, even the fictional tiny quiet town of Twin Peaks is 20 times larger than Stanley and probably take up fraction of the current UK claim that spans across eigth different islands and 300 miles in every direction from them. The importance of the region is the sea territoy anyway, it is huge. Pft, self governing, they make it sound like they can actually be independant, if they weren't part of another nation the people there would die of cold and famine. Please, there are far more british citizens living in continental Argentina than in that one island.

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I don't care about the Falkland Islands or Argentina and the UK's claim to it but I do have two questions, why do you care about a bunch of shitty little islands? And why is that Twin Peaks sign spelt "Knit Peaks"?
 
If no one lives in several of the islands then they don't belong to anyone, and whether you like it or not the sea surrounding the islands belongs to the British.

If you want me to support Argentina's claim to the islands then gather some Argentina-supporting people together and go live there yourselves. Until that time, you have no claim to the islands other than that they're nearby.

I can see why the British continue refusing to negotiate, seeing as how you have such utter contempt for the islands' current inhabitants.

What seems to be the case is that President Galtieri's plan to distract people from his human rights abuses with nationalistic fervour seems to have worked to this day.
 
Earth said:
If no one lives in several of the islands then they don't belong to anyone, and whether you like it or not the sea surrounding the islands belongs to the British.
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If nobody lives on the islands then whats the point in Britain even owning them?,
 
JO'Geran said:
If nobody lives on the islands then whats the point in Britain even owning them?,
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The Falklands borders stretch over a considerable part of the Atlantic, all the Minerals and oil (an approximate 6 trillion dollars worth of oil at that) go to the British. Possession of the Falkland Islands also gives the UK a stronger claim to parts of Antarctica and, in 2041, when a law prohibiting mining in Antarctica expires, that'll be very good for the UK.
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Buxbaum666 said:
I genuinely thought this was one of the recent spam threads.
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It probably is, I'm just interested in figuring out what all the fuss is about.

Thanks for "The More You Know" @Izak. Interesting.

Funny thing is, from what I can gather, if the Argentinians hadn't invaded in the 1980s, they probably would've gotten the Falklands anyway within a few years.
 
I feel like the British claims on the Falklands reek of colonialism and greed. Thank you Izak for clarifying the British' interest in the islands.
 
This here is the kinda shit the original Fallout was taking the piss out of.
But on a serious note, I'm not too comfortable with the idea of a Country having ownership of a numbers of Islands well outside their border. As someone with the UK, I never got into the whole conflict, the Falklands war occured well before I was born so I don't have much understanding on how it happened. And even Schools never really mentioned it which gives me the impression that the general public isn't too proud of what happened.
My personal opinion, no one should "own" Islands that haven't got anyone who lives there.
There's something kind of... off about it all.
 
There's no point in leaving unexploited natural resources in uninhabited countries untapped (except for an environmental one) so I can see why it's such a controversy. My worthless, uneducated opinion is that the Falklands should become a free trade zone, that would be the only way to keep Argentina and Britain from acting like imperialist bastards.
 
dopezilla said:
I feel like the British claims on the Falklands reek of colonialism and greed.
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And the Argentinian claim doesn't?

When the Argentinians invaded, they were led by a Fascist dictatorship busy "disappearing" thousands of people. I have no sympathy with whatever claims that government made to the islands.

Now things are different of course. Negotiations should go ahead, but they won't because both sides are morons. As I said earlier, if people on the islands want to be part of a country, that's their right, and it should not be taken from them, especially not by force.

The uninhabited islands, on the other hand. Who knows? Like I said, if the Argentinians want them so much, maybe they should go live there.
 
Hm, geographically it would make sense if they became a part of Argentina, but you're right, other than that I have nothing to back up their claim.
 
Izak said:
I still want to know why that Twin Peaks sign was spelt incorrectly goddamn it!
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HA! You'll never know.

I'm not going to give the entire story here for the 100th time, especially when some random guy is going to say it's wrong because he heard diferently some years ago somewhere he doesn't even remembers. But bottom line is the British just went and took them from us by force and expelled our inhabitants while we were busy with creating our own nation and keeping people from taking more pieces of it.

The british invaded Buenos Aires twice and failed, so instead they went and take the most remote territory of our nation just to be a thorn on our side for as much as possible. Demands to return the islands habe been made ever since, but they made deaf ears since back then, not just now. So the 1983 invasion happened because the time was running out, a few more years and we were not going to be able to keep claiming them again. Well guess what, the clock resetted by the few weeks we took them back, so if we didn't get them back at least we bougth ourselves some time, and if they keep makin gdeaf ears another war is going to happen, but there is still time though.

The population is not autoctonous, the islands never had any native population at all, so, according to international law self determination does not apply to the people currently living there, so no, they have no rigth to decide who the islands belong to, anymore than someone who lives in London does.

And now an new UN ruling says the waters they are in are ours, regardless of the UK making deaf ears to every UN ruling since it was created, because, you know, they are the UK and Argentina is a backwards South American nation.

Oh, and about the argument of populating the unpopulated islands, we sent people to South Georgia in 1983 too, the british expelled them too. So it's not as simple, they won't let anyone settle. We have people living in Antartica though.
 
Gonzalez said:
The population is not autoctonous, the islands never had any native population at all, so, according to international law self determination does not apply to the people currently living there, so no, they have no rigth to decide who the islands belong to, anymore than someone who lives in London does.
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Just how are people born on the Falkland Islands, whose ancestors came there in the first half of the 19th century not natives of the Falkland islands?

If your argument depends on the fact that the British drove out the Argentinians while you were busy nation-building, you should know that the the Spanish (who later became Argentinians) drove out the British, who got there by driving out the French.

The only factors that affect the moral claim a nation has on a certain land is who was there first (the French) and who is there now (the British).
 
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