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Bernie Sanders is satan for the neo left because he dared bring up Clinton's glaring conflicts of interest and corruption and he was actually progressive. He is such a lucifer to them that for a while I even saw some American democrats stating the working class was not real because if Satan Sanders said it musn't be true.
 
Walpknut said:
Bernie Sanders is satan for the neo left because he dared bring up Clinton's glaring conflicts of interest and corruption and he was actually progressive. He is such a lucifer to them that for a while I even saw some American democrats stating the working class was not real because if Satan Sanders said it musn't be true.
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I supported Sanders for many reasons, not the least bit because Hillary and Obama seem to have the weird idea that they're in a Bond movie with an army of robots and assassins at their beck and call.
 
Sanders even had to Grovel to Clinton after losing because he would risk career suicide but even that isn't enough for the Clintonites who still consider that there must be a new circle in hell exclusively for him.
 
Walpknut said:
Sanders even had to Grovel to Clinton after losing because he would risk career suicide but even that isn't enough for the Clintonites who still consider that there must be a new circle in hell exclusively for him.
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The behavior of the DNC can best be described as, "HOW DARE YOU TRY TO MOVE OUT OF YOUR PLACE IN LINE! It is her turn!"
 
Everyone knows the best way of acquiring support is to tell people that your rise to Power is inevitable.
 
Walpknut said:
Everyone knows the best way of acquiring support is to tell people that your rise to Power is inevitable.
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I voted for Hillary but it was as a last resort.

Ironically, my opinion of Trump had been that he was never as good a businessman as people proclaimed him to be. I remember getting a truly nasty series of posts when I pointed this out by a certain poster here who proclaimed Trump was a genius who "only" got a million dollars as a start up gift from his father.

(Which technically would be 3 million dollars adjusted for inflation)

He also eventually inherited his father's 150 million dollar fortune as well.
 
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Fun-filled fact: The Kingpin was partially based on Donald Trump and his, even then, rumored ties to organized crime as part of a way to generate more revenue from land deals as well as launder money for the Five Families.

Walpknut said:
The modern fantasy of the Millionaire genius, instead of the more common scenario where rich families are just a chain of inheritance and government bail outs.
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Loophole abuse is a very very easy way to make money. Even the actual geniuses often get their way by stealing the work of others or cutting them out (see every Silicon Valley success story).

Not to mention this bullshit.

 
CT Phipps said:
There's a serious argument in academic circles that the Nazi uniforms, weapons, vehicles, and chest thumping were not just part of the Nazi's appeal but their primary appeal.
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Well they were significant in getting young guys to join the 'cause'. Guys like uniforms, medals, etc. useless stuff. Napoleon said "A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon." Hugo Boss designed some of the nazi uniforms.
 
Growing up in deep rural Kentucky, I know plenty of people who are KKK members and the general point about them is, "They are meth addicted degenerates and psychopaths involved in the drug trade, human trafficking, and worse." The face of the racists in America are not concerned by optics as people get attracted to the position by the so-called outlaw lifestyle.

White supremacy is how you get in through the door.
 
CT Phipps said:
Yes, I think that's wrong and the Democrats have done precisely zero for the minorities in America.

Sorry.

They make a token gesture of caring but we have Hillary talking about the streets and super criminals, no actual effort to elevate poverty, and generally doing nothing which would actually benefit those identity politics they should do.

You say they do too much but they've done shit.

Mind you, even the Far Left is corrupt as hell as they found out that Jill Stein woman was a Russian agent who embezzled two million dollars of campaign funds. She was also taking money from the anti-vaxxers and pocketing it too.

All I want is a candidate who can curb violence and work against poverty. Is it so hard?
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I said they cared, not that they actually did anything. Fixing stuff is suicide for the IdPols because complaining is all they know how to do.
 
Fixing stuff means the IdPols wouldn't have anything to bitch and scream about for self promotion.
 
They want other people to fix it. Any effort stops when it moves beyond the scope of bitching, getting attention and asking for money.
 
There seems to be an inherent contradiction to Identity Politics though. It's all well and good when it's wielded to scapegoat straight, white, christian men. The trouble is, that boogeyman can't be everywhere and do all the oppressing. It starts to fall apart when the oppressor is one of the designated oppressed minorities. So when muslims oppress homosexuals for example. Or white chicks transgress against blacks. Or blacks against transgenders. Or whatever, the more granular you make the Identities, the more permutations of protected group vs. protected group spring up.
Then what?
Which group takes precedent? There's got to be some minority hierarchy scorecard, right? WASPs on the bottom and Elderly Gender Fluid Vegan Cherokee Necrophiliacs on top? Tell me who to heap my righteous opprobrium on please Huffingtonpost!

And then to fuck up all notions of privilege and oppression, you got these damn Asians showing up and ruining the curve for all the other minorities. They're quietly surpassing whites in most metrics of success. In many cases the bar is raised higher for college admissions for Asians because they excel too much. They're too smart, we don't want too many people like that representing our school, so we'll put up barriers to entry only for this minority group because of their race. There's your systemic racism on full display.

The inherent hypocrisy of identity politics is stupefying.
 
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Cimmerian Nights said:
There seems to be an inherent contradiction to Identity Politics though. It's all well and good when it's wielded to scapegoat straight, white, christian men. The trouble is, that boogeyman can't be everywhere and do all the oppressing. It starts to fall apart when the oppressor is one of the designated oppressed minorities. So when muslims oppress homosexuals for example. Or white chicks transgress against blacks. Or blacks against transgenders. Or whatever, the more granular you make the Identities, the more permutations of protected group vs. protected group spring up.
Then what?
Which group takes precedent? There's got to be some minority hierarchy scorecard, right? WASPs on the bottom and Elderly Gender Fluid Vegan Cherokee Necrophiliacs on top? Tell me who to heap my righteous opprobrium on please Huffingtonpost!

And then to fuck up all notions of privilege and oppression, you got these damn Asians showing up and ruining the curve for all the other minorities. They're quietly surpassing whites in most metrics of success. In many cases the bar is raised higher for college admissions for Asians because they excel too much. They're too smart, we don't want too many people like that representing our school!

The inherent hypocrisy of identity politics is stupefying.
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Speaking as a straight white cis Christian man, I stopped buying this excuse when Enron destroyed the local economy of my region, the current big boss of Virginia (Blankenship) killed coal miners like a 19th century mining boss, and the opioid crisis was made a massive 5000 deaths a year issue by the handling of the state government. The poor whites of America are the majority of people in desperate need of aid but they're oppressed by rich straight white (non)Christian(behaving) men and should ally with the blacks, hispanics, and other people oppressed by them to have a bonfire because they are fucking evil.

Appallachians are people who often vote Democrat (the Right has only a slight majority) and voted Trump because they need SOMEONE to string up the enemies of America in Washington. It's just Trump was lying as he's expanded the swamp by miles and miles (and my father--a rich white man said that anyone who knew anything about Trump's businesses shouldn't have been surprised).
 
Well, I guess by defining that white people can't have troubles and are to blame for everything takes out one of the groups, and two are easier to care about than three.
 
Hassknecht said:
Well, I guess by defining that white people can't have troubles and are to blame for everything takes out one of the groups, and two are easier to care about than three.
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Excepting of course that internet warriors (which is the basis of SJW) are mostly an internet phenomenon and largely incidental to real life.
 
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