Automatron dlc looks completely boring

Millim said:
I didn't mind the whole paid mods thing.
But only if the people who made the mods get the money.
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Paid mods were never, and will never be about allowing modders to make money. It will always be an attempt to monetize the mods fans make to make money for the company. Any money made by modders will be totally secondary.

Now they are just releasing paid mods themselves with these new DLCs. It's good they are not releasing the modding tools yet because modders could probably very easily make mods that do the exact same thing as the Mechanist DLC and the other one where you tame animals.
 
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Irwin John Finster said:
Paid mods were never, and will never be about allowing modders to make money. It will always be an attempt to monetize the mods fans make to make money for the company. Any money made by modders will be totally secondary.
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That's wrong, I really hope Bethesda smarten up because that's a very shifty and shitty deal.
Like, fuck that.
 
Millim said:
That's wrong, I really hope Bethesda smarten up because that's a very shifty and shitty deal.
Like, fuck that.
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Just look at this quote from the Gamespot article, apparently from Pete Hines himself:

"Hines told us that, if the paid mod system does return, Bethesda would still expect to get a cut of the revenue-- even if the percentage might change.

"It's sort of like having the world's largest ball of yarn and deciding you're going to unravel it" -- Hines

"Our belief is, 'We made the game, we made the game you're making a thing for.' So just like anything else, there is some kind of involvement that we're going to have in that," he said."
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/bethesda-talks-skyrims-paid-mods-controversy/1100-6428952/
 
Millim said:
I forgot about the Bullet Sponges ><
Who wants to bet that there would be a Legendary Robot every ten minutes that mutates because Fuck Science.
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I'm expecting really silly names like "Legendary Super Ultra Mega Ultimate Freezing Flaming Mk II Infiltron of Death".
 
Doesn't really matter what they do, most of the people here will complain about it anyways. I'll reserve judgement until it is out, but it looks like it could be fun to play through.
 
Knight In Leather Armor said:
MrMattyPlays newest video will probably be titled "Will Automatron DLC have robots in it?" and it'll probably be a two hour long video with only 5 minutes talking about the actual subject.
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Either that or it will be titled:
"Automatron DLC: Great DLC or the Greatest DLC of all time?"

Zyax said:
Doesn't really matter what they do, most of the people here will complain about it anyways.
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That's true, because no matter what they do they cannot fix the broken dialogue system of this supposed RPG which is the common complaint about Fallout 4. Anything they do will have to work around that, which means more of the same problem.
 
ahh the tried and true "wait till it's out to pass judgement" line.

oh how I missed that one..

When will the world learn that seeing something for what it is, and calling it out for being that thing is actually a virtue, while blindly purchasing products so we can see if they are good is not a virtue?

Do you go to every doctors office you see and test them out in that fashion?

Do you buy every car and crash them into a wall, to see which is the safest?

There is value to making judgements about products based on their appearance and not buying them, and people trying to tell you that this is not true are at best unpaid shills for the producers of crappy products.
 
whirlingdervish said:
ahh the tried and true "wait till it's out to pass judgement" line.

oh how I missed that one..

When will the world learn that seeing something for what it is, and calling it out for being that thing is actually a virtue, while blindly purchasing products so we can see if they are good is not a virtue?

Do you go to every doctors office you see and test them out in that fashion?

Do you buy every car and crash them into a wall, to see which is the safest?

There is value to making judgements about products based on their appearance and not buying them, and people trying to tell you that this is not true are at best unpaid shills for the producers of crappy products.
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Riiight, because those two things are comparable in the slightest
 
This Automatron trailer makes the product look pretty cool and interesting. It makes it look like there's an interesting story and dialogue happening in this game. Then again so did the official Fallout 4 trailer. That trailer also made the game look like an amazing RPG experience. It conveniently hid the terrible voice acting and animations. And yet in reality, Fallout 4 was just a bunch of crafting with no RPG whatsoever.

Nothing less than a complete overhaul of Fallout 4's dialogue system can actually fix the major problem with the game. Any DLC will have the same sh*t dialogue with no choices and nothing interesting going on, only more crafting and shooting and looting. So if you're one of those people that loves mindless crafting and shooting and looting by all means throw your money at it. Me? I only enjoy those things if there's also an actual RPG in the game.

MercenarySnake said:
I'm expecting really silly names like "Legendary Super Ultra Mega Ultimate Freezing Flaming Mk II Infiltron of Death".
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I'm expecting the Machinist to either be Preston Gravy in a mask, or serve the exact same role of giving you repeated quests to save Robot Settlements this time.
 
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Does anyone speculate that these robot mods would apply to Codsworth or Curie (pre transplant) or potentially a new robot companion?
 
I'm calling this DLC shit but I could be wrong but then when I purchased Fallout 4 to check it out myself thinking "It's probably shit but it can't be worse then Skyrim" then actually played it...You expected a good-maybe decent game? Nope! Not even fucking close.

If I did buy this DLC(which I never will) I would end up trying to give it an open mind and get burned again. I can see this is going to be shit, I'm calling it but I apologize for being a grumpy angry cynic if I'm wrong.

whirlingdervish said:
Do you buy every car and crash them into a wall, to see which is the safest?
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Irwin John Finster said:
Paid mods were never, and will never be about allowing modders to make money. It will always be an attempt to monetize the mods fans make to make money for the company. Any money made by modders will be totally secondary.
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Thank you. Too many people do not get this. There already exists secure, viable donation systems for modders who actually have supporters willing to pay, so an official paid mod system for them is unnecessary. The only thing that will come out of paid mods is chaos - users rushing to rip-off or steal mods and then sell them as their own, low content mods being published, and a whole bunch of scams and refunds. I doubt Valve was actually trying to monetise it out of greed, but I believe Bethesda may have intended to profit directly.
 
Well, they said they planned on bringing mods over to the consoles and those servers and shit that they're stored on, not to mention whatever hassle it will cause Microsoft/Sony is something Bethesda's gonna have to pay for and do you really think they'll release mods without even cutting even?
 
Irwin John Finster said:
...Any DLC will have the same shit dialogue with no choices and nothing interesting going on...
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Same with any quest mods, KrisTakahashi [3DNPC] has already said he is going to make his Fallout 4 mod using the default, terribly simplistic dialogue wheel. He also said the voiced protagonist seriously limits the creativity involved in making interesting npcs for quests or followers [or words to similar effect]. I was hoping he'd boycott FO4 altogether.
 
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