Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Hassknecht, Feb 11, 2011.

  1. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    At my office job (and my line of work in general) nobody cares about beards.
    Sadly, I still can't grow a decent beard, so I shave from time to time.
  2. DammitBoy

    DammitBoy Carbon Dated and Proud

    Feb 23, 2006
    Actually, it's too bad for you. People's perception of you, fair or unfair, real or imagined, will affect you for the rest of your life - sometimes greatly to your detriment. You might miss the woman/job of your dreams that would make you wildy happy for the rest of your life because of how you choose to present yourself to the world. Not fair, but that's how the world rolls.

    Now, if your long hair, cheesy beard, or lack of commitment to regular bathing is super ultra-important to you - by all means - do what you feel is best for you. Just know it comes with a potential cost attached.

    a) I've been successful at everything I tried to be - currently I'm being wildly successful as a carpenter working on movies. I fucking love my job. Even at this job, there is an unwritten, unspoken expected conformity of dress, tools used, and expected behavior that mark you as one of the professionals in this trade. Does one hammer work better than another? Nope, but the 'top guys' all use a certain brand - because that's what the 'top guys' use. Silly, huh?

    So when your co-workers look you over for the first time, they will judge you by what you wear and what tools you use, down to what kind of toolbelt you use.

    b) Money is highly under-rated by those who don't have any. On the other hand - don't do any job that you don't enjoy. Love your job and you'll never work a day in your life is not a cliche, it's the truth. So find something you love doing that pays really fucking well and I promise you'll be very happy.

    c) I've worked plenty of office jobs, succeeded in those jobs and hated roughly half of those jobs. As I've already written, offices are not the only places conformity is required to succeed. In fact, it's a basic requirement of life. Unless you can be so bizarre and trend-setting that you become a celebrity. So, you can always pin your dreams to that idea... lol

    Do whatever you want, be what ever you want, dress and groom yourself however you like, but in doing so - like with all things - know there are always repercussions for your actions or the lack thereof.
  3. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign ⛧卐⛧ Staff Member Moderator [REDACTED]

    Apr 1, 2005
    Such philosophical musings for the beard thread... :smile:
  4. mobucks

    mobucks jetski Orderite

    May 22, 2010
    One time I had a Union job at Lord and Taylor - An ultra high-end Macy's type store. I showed up every day in ripped jeans that showed my boxer shorts and half my ass. The foreman told me to dress better so the next day I showed up in my NYC club attire. 150 dollar jeans and an 80 dollar guido button down. I looked like Pauly D with a toolbelt on. I did that thinking it would be funny and the other guys would jeer me but no, they didn't bat an eyelash at my metrosexual carpenter regalia. I got myself fired a week later out of spite. Just wanted to share that. :roll:
  5. silverburst

    silverburst First time out of the vault

    Apr 10, 2010
    I would just like to add this about the "women prefer men without beards" theme:

    I have sported a couple of really long, unruly, unkempt beards in my life, and I took a trip to dirtbike across Cambodia while I had one of these. The women over there went crazy for my beard. I constantly had women coming up and looking at me, talking to me about my beard, some even touching it because they couldn't believe it was real. There were other young, single foreign men in the group with me, and none of them received similar attention.

    One of the women told me I "was young, but looked old" because of the beard--instead of this being an insult, however, they took it as something to be physically attracted to. So, maybe women dislike beards in much of the western world, but in Cambodia at least, a beard is chick-magnet, and the bigger the better.
  6. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    What's lamer than goading about your sexual prowess in a forum?

    I have been clean shaven for the past 5 years, I am now leaving the fur grow, see if I like it or not. Might end up shaving it in the end.
  7. silverburst

    silverburst First time out of the vault

    Apr 10, 2010
    Oh, I'm not bragging at all. I got no action then, and I've never gotten any action. I'm a complete loser with women, but...

    I'm just saying that If there is any statistical truth to women disliking beards, then it is only a regional thing. If you wanted women to like your beard, there are places in this world where it is definitely a turn-on rather than a turn off.
  8. sea

    sea Vault Senior Citizen

    Oct 5, 2009
    Right, because having a beard and long hair = not bathing regularly. :roll:

    Well, yeah, of course. I'm just saying that if I were to have to work with someone who thinks I'm a moron, incompetent, unqualified etc. because of exceptionally superficial qualities, to the point where it seriously endangers my employment, status, how I get along with them, and so on, then... well, to me there is a difference between accepted standards of dress, and people simply reading too much into your appearance, especially in grossly inappropriate and inaccurate ways.

    As I said, were it any other thing like racism, sexism, religious discrimination - that'd cause a shitstorm. Didn't get the job because the hiring manager doesn't like your soul patch? Cut your damn hair, hippie! It's just a really shitty and stupid sort of double standard that ideally should not exist.
  9. DammitBoy

    DammitBoy Carbon Dated and Proud

    Feb 23, 2006

    This just in: Everybody you ever meet, ever work for, ever work with, ever try to date, ever try to socialize with - will judge you unfairly based on superficial bullshit.

    It's called the human condition, we read too much into everything, especially the stuff that matters the least.

    Life is not now, nor will it ever be fair or ideal. Get used to it or suffer the consequences.
  10. doc frank

    doc frank First time out of the vault

    Mar 7, 2013
    I shaved my beard about a year ago and decided never to do that again. Had to show my id every time I was buying cigarettes. Also I like my face more with beard.
  11. Alesia

    Alesia It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Mar 3, 2013
    I grow a full beard in the winter. Rest of the year I got stubble like Dr. House.
  12. Arcanix

    Arcanix First time out of the vault

    Mar 2, 2013
    My facial hair is very limited. Thank god for that.
  13. AskWazzup

    AskWazzup Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2008
    3 years later and i still can't grow a full beard. The thought circled through my head when i just watched a clip of Bill Evans last concert. The man has gone from a soft spoken baby face, to a full lumberjack. Would love to pack that kind of hair if just for once in a lifetime, though seeing as Brahms had the same problem in his youth, but still managed to pull off a huge beard in his later years, maybe i'm not at my peak yet.
  14. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Me and my brother are both Norwegians, but we share a mixed heritage, including some strong beard-killing genes. Me, being a scientist-type, knew this, my brother was much more unaware, and finally came to me in his early 20s, desperate, "When am I gonna get a damn beard!? I shave and shave but nothing further grows!" "Yeaaah, about thaaat... what you have now is basically as good as its gonna get." "WHAT!?"
  15. AskWazzup

    AskWazzup Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2008
    My brother, on the flipside, can already grow a pretty decent beard... Makes me wonder sometimes, if our mother is holding out any secrets on us :lol:. I do have pretty fluffy eyebrows and long eyelashes though... probably stole all that beard material...
  16. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    I stoped shaving for 2 weeks and now I have a shitty neckbeard, mostly because I don't like having mustache or having hair on my cheeks (I know how gay that sounds).
    I am thinking about shaving the whole thing again.
  17. alec

    alec White heterosexual male Orderite

    May 21, 2003
    I can't believe I never posted in this thread.

    Not that I have an opinion when it comes to beards.

    If I have any facial hair, it's because I'm a lazy bastard: I shave just once a week. But that's how long I can deal with facial hair, after one week it just gets itchy and uncomfortable. I look a lot younger when I shave, I have too many gray hairs and it's only getting worse.

    A couple of days ago there was an article in the newspapers stating that the beard craze is practically over because almost everyone between 20 and 40 felt they had to grow a beard as a fashion statement.
  18. Lexx

    Lexx Testament to the ghoul lifespan
    Moderator Modder

    Apr 24, 2005
    Really? I thought beards are totally coming back currently.

    I actually need to keep a light beard, or else I look like a douchebag. More than on other days.
  19. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    Beards have been coming back, but now there's an oversaturation of beards so they'll phase out soon. Or that's what the fashion guys say.
    I, for one, welcome our beardless future as I'm still unable to grow a decent beard.
  20. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010
    I'd love to have a beard but I have a weird problem - it grows rather well on most places except the top of my chin, or rather, the very bottom. The tip of it. Or whatever.
    It is annoying when you have hair covering your face and there's another hole under your mouth. So I just shave.

    Eh, maybe one day.