Bethesda Fought the Lore

Discussion in 'General Fallout Discussion' started by Negativity, Sep 19, 2018.

  1. Negativity

    Negativity Take a dirt nap

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    Oct 19, 2017
    And the lore won...



    Thought you guys would enjoy this, and maybe it will kick off a discussion.
     
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  2. naossano

    naossano So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 19, 2006
    And so much more...
     
  3. Negativity

    Negativity Take a dirt nap

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    Oct 19, 2017
    I couldn't find the terminal, I can't stand playing the game it gives me a headache. I searched for ages, so I settled for that in the end :\

    Yeah with the museum one, I think Vertibirds were originally meant to be Enclave creations in Fallout 2, so they completely fucked it up. I know what you mean though, they couldn't hold the consistency between their own games.
     
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  4. NMLevesque

    NMLevesque Commie Ghost

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    Jul 2, 2016
    Good stuff, but the most egregious example is missing.

    "The President has been leading our country from a Poseidon Energy oil rig just off the coast of San Francisco.

    It's certainly an odd choice for a Presidential command center. Or is it? Not as much as it may seem, as our investigation discovered. Thanks to the testimony of a highly-placed anonymous source, the Boston Bugle has learned that the official designation of the oil rig is actually "Control Station Enclave" - giving credence to the long-running rumors of a secret, militarized "shadow government," known as the Enclave, that would take control of the United States in the event of a nuclear conflagration."
     
  5. lolpop109

    lolpop109 Water Chip? Been There, Done That
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    Jul 14, 2016
    I get breaking the old games lore in certain regards because of what tech can allow you but into a video game for example the vertibirds or something but breaking there own lore is just lolable

    I mean the biggest thing that video missed is water ! In fo3 everyone struggling for water that what the game is literally about oh but wait whats this in fo4 you can just make a purifier easily no way. What bull crap is that
     
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  6. Norzan

    Norzan Vault Fossil

    Apr 7, 2017
    The Bethestards will still come up with excuses for all the lore breaks in Fallout 3 and 4, even with ingame evidence.
     
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  7. Negativity

    Negativity Take a dirt nap

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    Oct 19, 2017
    Ha, never even thought about that. What a waste of the GECK as well.
     
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  8. Ayelander

    Ayelander Big Man

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    Jun 30, 2018
    Can't help but laugh when they shit on their own lore, Bethesda can't even trust itself.
     
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  9. Einhanderc7

    Einhanderc7 Vat dipped, grown and still oozing with perfection

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    Apr 22, 2016
    What we really need is a clip from Who's Line is it Anyways during the props skit. Just switch the faces, props, and jokes. Would be perfect for this.
     
  10. Negativity

    Negativity Take a dirt nap

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    Oct 19, 2017
    haha maybe I can see about doing it 8-)
     
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  11. naossano

    naossano So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 19, 2006
    You don't even need to compare Fo3 and Fo4. Fo3 contractif itself a lot, even if it was a standalone game.

    I am shocked that they didn't include the kid in the fridge. Much like the Jet and the Geck, it contradict one of the MAJOR plot of the classics. If you removed Necropolis water ship AND didn't repaired the waterpump, the entire ghoul population would have died of thirst of been forced to move away.
     
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  12. Negativity

    Negativity Take a dirt nap

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    Oct 19, 2017
    I could always make a part 2. If I can collect more inconsistencies.
     
  13. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Serious? They did this in Fallout 4?

    The idea was that no one knew about the Enclave beyond its members, let alone that someone would be able to tell a newspaper about its existence.
    The Enclave most likely would have shut down the newspaper before this could be published.

    As for the oil rig. All the public knew was that it was build to secure the last major oil well for the United States.

    I just don't have any word to describe the people who made this and thought they were so clever other than that they are a bunch of imbeciles that should never have gotten near Fallout or any game franchise that has a dedicated fandom.
     
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  14. Norzan

    Norzan Vault Fossil

    Apr 7, 2017
    Here's why consistent lore matters to me: it makes the world believable. Having consistent rules, established and shown and then following them is one of the most important things in games that are trying to immerse you into a world. When a sequel starts to do dumb shit and changing shit for no reason other than to make kewl shit or to fit their stupid narrative (Fallout 3 and 4), that's when the world starts falling apart.

    People who care about lore consistency are not "lore nazis", we just care for consistency and established rules. So these people who say lore breaks "are not a bad thing" don't get where we are coming from.
     
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  15. ironmask

    ironmask Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Mar 10, 2018
    I deleted my comment. Did not want to take a fun thread and sour it.
     
  16. mef

    mef Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Dec 29, 2014
    most things bethesda did may not be lore-breaking but just dumb. like, for example, jet being on east coast.

    or jet being in a vault.

    or geck using magic.

    or fev being on east coast.

    or brotherhood of steel being on east coast.

    or enclave being on east coast.

    or super mutants being on east coast.

    or deathclaws being on east coast.

    or centaurs being on east coast.

    or radscorpions being on east coast.

    etc.

    you can make up explanations and excuses for that, sure. it's a fictional world and suspension of disbelief is subjective. if you try hard enough, you could also prove that fallout and star wars take place in the same universe or toy story is a movie about holocaust. you could but it's just fucking stupid and i am not buying it. bethesda took a well-established, cohesive and believable world and ruined it.

    (yes, i actually heard a theory that toy story is about holocaust)
     
  17. NMLevesque

    NMLevesque Commie Ghost

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    Jul 2, 2016
    Is there already a thread that lists all of the continuity errors? I feel like there should be one.
     
  18. naossano

    naossano So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 19, 2006
    Most likely more than one list. Most people don't check previous threads before creating a new one. And most moderators don't fuse similar threads together.
     
  19. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    Boy it's gonna be a field day once F:76 releases. It's entire setting just contradicts Fallout 3, to say short.
     
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  20. KingArthur

    KingArthur Johnny K deserved better

    Jun 25, 2018