Bethesda's Lore Recons

Discussion in 'Fallout 4' started by arcticflocky, Nov 10, 2015.

  1. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    They're not really taking it seriously, they explicitly don't give a shit.
    https://twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/668802348140109824
    "It's video game, anything goes!!!"
     
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  2. frajaq

    frajaq It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jul 23, 2015
    He's right
     
  3. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    Not really. It's not about realism, it's about consistency and verisimilitude. And while Petey claims that they care about consistency it's very clear that, well, they don't. To him, one shouldn't look too closely, writers should be allowed to have fun!!11
    That's just terrible writing. It's the kind of shit that happens when your setting is either not thought through or you don't understand your own setting enough to follow its rules consistently.
    But yeah, let's just throw all good writing out of the window. Fallout: Equestria might as well be canon now, because writers are allowed to have fun!
     
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  4. Gaddes

    Gaddes Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    May 18, 2010
    Can always count of ole' Petey Pete for a good laugh. Also, I did that quest with the ghoul kid stuck in a fridge...fuckin a man. It was just as bad as I heard.
     
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  5. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Everything (almost) is as bad as you've heard.
     
  6. MercenarySnake

    MercenarySnake Kept you waiting huh?

    Aug 22, 2015
    Speaking of bad I entered a one room church, what purpose did it serve you might ask? To kill a couple feral ghouls and a named somewhat sane ghoul sermon, there was no reason for it to be there and I wasted a couple seconds of my life in there.
     
  7. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign ⛧卐⛧ Staff Member Moderator [REDACTED]

    Apr 1, 2005
    Most of the locations are like that.
     
  8. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Painstakingly Based & Cringe

    Sep 11, 2010
    Bleh....

     

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  9. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Painstakingly Based & Cringe

    Sep 11, 2010
    Oh and sorry for the double-post but I'm not allowed to edit the previous one for whatever reason and I found this tweet neat:



    So, what the hell does Pete consider to be "super-important lore and consistency", cause I haven't seen it since, what? Morrowind?
     

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  10. shengar

    shengar First time out of the vault

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    Nov 12, 2015
    I thought you've made a good points until I found out that you've just twisted Avellone's word that him agreeing with Ulysses means it's a canon ending. Not to mention that Josh Sawyer, who actually still with Obsidian now when Avellone had left, support the idea of Civilization will rebuilt itself. Jesus, you just presenting opinion as fact and presenting incomplete information to make your point sounds like the truth.
     
  11. Someguy37

    Someguy37 Mildly Dipped

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    Nov 18, 2015
    That does mean its the canon ending to Avellone, I never said what Obsidian as a company thinks is the canon ending.

    So i'm not really sure what the hell you are talking about.
     
  12. Romanophile

    Romanophile Fou

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    Nov 23, 2015
    Ah, the classic fauxpology. ‘Sorry that YOUUUUU didn’t like it!’ Splendid damage control there. If he were truly sorry, he’d offer the franchise to competent designers and not continue using it to acquire even more yachts and hookers.
     
  13. ComeAndBlowMyMind

    ComeAndBlowMyMind First time out of the vault

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    Jul 21, 2015
    i know it isn't a Retcon from bethesda but
    What happened to the NCR flag
    because it changed from fallout two to new vegas
    334588-ncr.jpg 20110415155723.png
     
  14. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign ⛧卐⛧ Staff Member Moderator [REDACTED]

    Apr 1, 2005
    Flags change all the time I guess.
     
  15. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    This isn't the right topic for this particular subject, but this topic is about the criticism on Bethesda's Fallout 4 so I will post it here. (and it is sort of a retcon).

    Just South from Boston while I was fighting some raiders, some Gunners came by... FLYING A VERTIBIRD!@!%*!
    Yes, a prototype VTOL plane which was still in development before the War, perfected by the Enclave, and reverse engineered or captured by the NCR, the Shi, and the Brotherhood (West Coast and East Coast versions), is now also used by a bunch of mercenary raiders that are barely literate and able to use use a degree of technology (perhaps just able to use a computer, but knowing how to repair one or know what an Operating System is).
    Seems it doesn't take years and years of study and training to fly a plane, let alone one that can vertically take of and land. All those flight schools and degrees you have to have are just a scam to prevent the common man from flying a plane, reserving it for only a handful of people.
     
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  16. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Yep. The Boomers, they had training by virtual simulators so they can fly. But a group of raiders? Hah.
     
  17. 5545Trey

    5545Trey Underground Deviant

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    Jun 25, 2014
    The fact that people use this excuse to pardon inconsistent and ill-conceived world-building is just baffling.

    Wrong. This mindset is sure to severely damage the writing of said game.
     
  18. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Because it's the only excuse left.
     
  19. 5545Trey

    5545Trey Underground Deviant

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    Jun 25, 2014
    How hard is it to understand that a game does not need to be "100% REALISMZ" to create a believable video game world?
     
  20. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Not so hard, it all depends on the game worlds rules. I keep saying it, but make your rules, and for god's sake FOLLOW THEM.
     
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