Bethesda's Lore Recons

Discussion in 'Fallout 4' started by arcticflocky, Nov 10, 2015.

  1. miceelf

    miceelf First time out of the vault

    Nov 9, 2015
    The entire point of PA in Fallout 4 is that it is common but that it has specific systems that more accurately reflect the experience of being inside PA. It is not a cRPG mechanic or a late game treat.
  2. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    But it's supposed to be extremely rare. Now it's like entire families in Boston had power armour.
  3. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    I remember going through a whole mess of a quest to get Winterized T51-b power armor in Fallout 3 because of how rare it was.

    I can't imagine doing that now. I have 6 sets of the stuff sitting in my garage.
  4. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    That, too.

    (I just meant that this repurpose late in development lead to the creation of the Bozar as it is: Described as a sniper rifle, functioning as a HMG)

    Heh, yeah. I have over twelve suits by now, two complete sets of X-01 (and two partial), and several sets of every other armour (except for T-51, for some reason, I guess I didn't explore enough when I was in the correct range of levels). Stopped taking them with me because my purpose-built hangar ran out of space.
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  5. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    It's ridiculous.
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  6. Someguy37

    Someguy37 Mildly Dipped

    Nov 18, 2015
    Just a quick rundown, other cut content includes.

    -Harpoon gun.

    -The Combat Zone being a fully functional arena, where we could bet on matches, and apparently had to fight Cait in the arena itself. Though this may have been a one time thing that only happened to recruit Cait, and then everyone turned on you after like they do normally.

    -An alternate ending to the Blind Betrayal quest, were Paladin Danse rallies all the BoS soldiers who still believe in him, despite the revelation that he is a synth, which leads to a confrontation between you, Danse, and Elder Maxson, where you and Danse force Elder Maxson to stand down as Elder, and someone, either you or Danse, becomes the new Elder. Though they are still hellbent on destroying the Institute, and the plotline would have continued as it does normally.

    -Something around 6 side quests,
    --One of which involved underwater content named "20 leagues under the sea"
    --Another named "Off the Grid" which shows the vault boy standing with the Diamond City field lights shining on him, and him looking nervous.
    --A side quest named "The Replacement" showing a vault boy and vault girl standing next to each other, likely indicating we could have gotten a synth version of the dead spouce
    --and two side quests left in the game which can be started via the console, but have no objectives. they are called "That's the Spirit" and "Bullet"
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  7. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Hmm... the civil war sounds interesting, and with more work could be cool.
  8. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    I wonder if the Robot Derby was ever meant to be an actual game mechanic or if it always was just an enemy infested ruin with a gimmick.
  9. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    More possible cut content. I think it was an actual game mechanic.
  10. Someguy37

    Someguy37 Mildly Dipped

    Nov 18, 2015
    I looked at it before using Fo4eidt, and didn't see anything that looked obviously like cut content.

    The combat zone still has a tone of dialogue and stuff relating to placing bets, I didn't see anything like that in regards to the robo derby.

    but I could have missed it because Fo4edit is a pain to use compared to the GECK.
  11. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    THe Robot Derby would've been a cool thing to have. I was actually excited when I saw the race from afar and I heard the announcer. Then everyone started attacking me.... like on every other Location....
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  12. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    C'mon, they only had like six years of development time. They needed that to fail at developing dynamic lighting!
  13. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Huh, among all dissapointments, guns... every gun looks like a portable transformer or something

    Gimme an M4 or G3 or AK47, FO2 allready introduced real life guns, and it's not really problematic in my opinion.
    The "assault rifle" was absolutely ridiculous. At least call it "Light Machine Gun" or something, and throw in a FAL or G3...

    The "combat rifle" came close, but again - it's the only weapon of its kind.
  14. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    So I am not the only one who is thinking "Hey, it rather looks like one of those machine guns from WW1"
    As I mentioned before, I really don't like a lot of the aesthetics of Fallout 4. I honestly wish the style of Fallout 1 and 2 was kept as a standard all new designs need to adhere to, and not constantly re invent the looks with every new numbered Fallout game (I am sure in FO5 the designs will be different again)
  15. whirlingdervish

    whirlingdervish Brahmin Cavalry Commander

    Jul 3, 2007

    You forgot GILLS. You know those things you were talking about earlier, as not implying FISH, right before you completely dropped the subject and now refuse to even acknowledge it's existence.

    Let me refresh your memory:

  16. Mohamed2001

    Mohamed2001 HATE NEWSPAPERS

    Jan 28, 2013
    @The APC,

    It's supposed to be a curvy version of this vehicle:

    1960s - 1980s, not sure of the exact date. Canceled due to the Bradley IFV.
    @Tank ruins, it's a retarded version of the M46 Patton. Seriously? 2 short barreled guns? Half track instead of full track? And what is the engine supposed to resemble? A nuclear engine? A nuclear engine for a COMBAT TANK?! I consider it a SPAA instead of an actual tank tbh. Makes more sense. But I guess it's supposed to be the US' state of the art MBT.

    Speaking of which, why did they take the Patton? It was a 50s tank. They could've taken the Abrams and modified its design to fit the technology in Fallout. I actually did that myself.
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  17. Ilosar

    Ilosar Vault Fossil

    Apr 20, 2010
    The Assault Rifle is quite effective, but weights so freaking much (26 pounds!!) when modded that no human being should be able to aim with the bloody thing unless they are in PA. The minigun weights less!

    And yeah, I'd have liked a Chinese Assault Rifle or some sort of AKM. They even have a Chinese guy and his crew in the game.

    EDIT: a functional Combat Zone would have been good. I actually thought it would be a friendly zone at first. Was bummed to see the raiders rushed at me like every other raider does. Every game has cut content, but this one is particularily obvious
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  18. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Fallout 3 seemed to suffer the 'cut content' problem as well, like the designers thought "Hey we are going to put all kinds of quests and NPCs here, lets map the places in advance" and then when the time came for that they were like "Fuck it, it is nearly 5 'o clock and I want a beer."
  19. LiveOnTheEdge


    Jun 22, 2015
    Just because I keep seeing this, but some amphibians have gills, or start out with them. And amphibians are not fish.
  20. Hardboiled Android

    Hardboiled Android Mildly Dipped

    Jun 7, 2015