Stanislao Moulinsky
Vault Fossil
I think it was in the Fallout Bible, and surprisingly the Vault 111 experiment makes sense with that explanation in mind.
Bethesda's Lore Recons
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Vault Fossil
Mr Fish
Slippy sloppy, The
Bible's not canon though, sooo... If Fallout 3 and 4 ain't canon either (cause fuck 'em) then where are we at exactly? Cause FNV had the whole sacrificial vault experiment and the guns galore experiment.
Oh, for frigs sake, really? First they retconned the T-60 as the last PA and now we have yet another new batch of Super Mutants? Ugh.
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Stanislao Moulinsky
Vault Fossil
New Vegas obviously treats FO3 as canon (just look at the Feral Ghouls) so now Vaults officially are "everything goes" experiments without a concertrated goal.
Dr Fallout
Centurion
I preferred them to be normal shelters to be honest.
5545Trey
Underground Deviant
I disagree the rationale in this statment. The only reason why Feral Ghouls in NV act similar to their Fallout 3 counterparts is because they are built on the same engine; that does not mean NV treats Fallout 3 as canon.
Monco
The Duck of Death
Yeah, I mean maybe if you had high INT you could figure out power armor, but a INT 1 character that probably couldn't tie his own shoe and can barely speak English just getting into power armor without any training is a little bit ridiculous.
Oppen
FIXT n°1 fan
I don't know, that sounds like a deliberate choice. Aren't critters their own things? Surely they could have made their own ghouls, instead.
Mr Fish
Slippy sloppy, The
What if Bethesda said no to that?
Oppen
FIXT n°1 fan
I believe that's very likely. But if that's the case, then Beth decides canon, and so it is canon. Point was, it doesn't sound engine related.
Mr Fish
Slippy sloppy, The
Beth doesn't decide canon for me. They've lost that right.
5545Trey
Underground Deviant
It is Power Armor, no one should be able to taught how to wear something that is supposed to protect them. PA training just makes little sense from a logical or lore perspective, because if any idiot is capable of wearing any other armor, then they are capable of wearing PA. You simply just step into it and you are virtually a walking tank.
Simply put: Obsidian did not have enough time; consistency in writing, characerization, and world-building were of higher importance to them.
Oppen
FIXT n°1 fan
But it decides it for future games.
Doctor 0
Still Mildly Glowing
And I'll continue to ignore them.
Mr Fish
Slippy sloppy, The
Which aren't canon.
5545Trey
Underground Deviant
Either way, the point is, an enemy type is not to make the claim that a supposed "spin-off" (Fallout: New Vegas) follows the lore of a supposed "sequel" (Fallout 3). Obsidian had 18 months to develop the game, so redesigning an existing enemy type was not in their priorities at all, especially since that enemy type would be uncommon in the game later.
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Mr Fish
Slippy sloppy, The
Doesn't the ferals in Vault 38 actually speak gargled words?
RangerBoo
Resident Schizo Poster
Vault 34 you mean? Yes as well as the ferals in Searchlight.
Mohamed2001
HATE NEWSPAPERS
Note that FO4's INT 1 means that you have average Intelligence. Not that you're dumb. It's different from the previous games.
Oppen
FIXT n°1 fan
Seriously? 1 is average now? Kinda reflect on the player, though.